Re: [INDOLOGY] {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} a question regarding the usage of -gotra versus -sagotra

[Madhav Deshpande]

I was surprised to see that in the lists of gotras circulated on the web,
in many cases, the "sa" of "X-sagotra" has been attached to the name of the
gotra itself, i.e. "Xsa".  One can see several examples in the list below:

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Brahmin_gotra_system

This list includes "Ātreyasa", for instance, as a gotra-name.  The only way
I can think how this came about is a misanalysis of "Ātreya-sagotra" as
"Ātreyasa-gotra."  I have not checked the names listed in texts like the
Gotra-pravara-mañjarī to see if this phenomenon has affected the lists in
Sanskrit texts as well.

Madhav Deshpande
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
>      I am forwarding a question from a friend of mine, for which I do not
> have a clear answer:
>
> Quote:
>
> Dear Madhav,
>
> I thought you might have a quick answer to this question. When mentioning
> gotras, one sees "Visvāmitra gotra", but also "Ātreyasa gotra", and
> "Kāsyapasa gotra".
>
> Since the ṛṣis in the two latter cases are Atri and Kasyapa, it would
> appear that the corresponding gotras should be "Ātreya" and "Kāsyapa",
> without the "sa" suffix. (Indeed, one also sees "Ātreya gotra", and
> "Kāsyapa gotra".)
>
> Is it the case that the correct terms are "Ātreya sagotra", and "Kāsyapa
> sagotra", and the conventional usage is simply an incorrect parsing?
> However, this would require "Visvāmitra sagotra", which one does not see.
>
> Or is there something more to it than that?
>
> Unquote
>
> Why would someone be referred to as Viśvāmitra-gotra, but others as
> Ātreya-sagotra or Kāśyapa-sagotra?  I will appreciate a clarification.
>
> Madhav Deshpande
> Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>
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