[INDOLOGY] Two terms
Rolf Heinrich Koch
rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com
Mon Sep 12 19:35:35 UTC 2016
Dear Artur
Sorry, I can not.
But I am sure there a translations of the Sinhala Thūpavaṃsaya somewhere
available. Berkwitz is one scholar who translated this text.
Best
Heiner
Am 12.09.2016 um 18:40 schrieb Artur Karp:
> Dear Heiner,
>
> I do follow Pali, but have problems with Sinhalese; just helter-skelter.
>
> Could you please translate?
>
> (Can be into Polish :) )
>
> Dzięki,
>
> Artur
>
> 2016-09-12 17:19 GMT+02:00 Rolf Heinrich Koch
> <rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com <mailto:rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com>>:
>
> I am just working on Sinhalese sources of the Buddhacarita.
>
> Regarding /vāḷasaṅghātayantan t/he Sinhala Thūpavaṃsaya reads:
>
>
> "daruva, Ajātaśatru rajjuruvan visin dhātu nidhānaya karavana
> lada, topi da īṭa sudusu ārakṣāvak karav" yi kiya.
> e bas äsū Viśvakam divyaputra avut vyālarūpa yukta yantrayak yodā
> daṇḍin neḷā karana lada dūpayan dhātu garbhayehi ävāṇa puhupat
> kaḍugena vānavēgayak hā samāna vēgayen sisārā divannā vū
> yantrayak mavā,...
>
> Sinhala Thūpavaṃsaya (2007) p. 109sq.
>
> Best
>
> Heiner
>
>
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>
>
> Am 12.09.2016 um 15:03 schrieb Seishi Karashima:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Almost identical passages are found in the /Thūpavaṃsa/: /The
>> chronicle of the Thūpa and the Thūpavaṃsa: Being a Translation
>> and Edition of Vācissaratthera’s Thūpavaṃsa/, by N.A.
>> Jayawickrama, London 1971: Luzac (Sacred Books of the Buddhists /
>> Pali Text Society, v. 28; Unesco Collection of Representative
>> Works), pp. 182f.
>>
>>
>> Jayawickrama translated the passages in question as follows:
>>
>>
>> Sakka, the king of the deities addressed Vissakamma: 'Ajatasattu,
>> my dear, has done the enshrining of the relics ; you provide
>> protection there', and despatched him. He came and set up *a
>> contraption with a number of figures of ferocious animals* and
>> setting up inside the relic chamber (another contraption) which
>> made the wooden figures bearing crystal coloured swords revolve
>> with the speed of the wind, he had it all joined to one pin, had
>> a rampart of granite in the form of a 'brick-hall' 6 built, and
>> having it covered on top with a single (stone-slab) had earth
>> thrown in and the ground levelled and had a granite thiipa
>> established upon it. (/ibid. /p. 46).
>>
>>
>> Cf. also /Dīghanikāyaṭṭhakathāṭīkā Līnatthavaṇṇanā/, ed. Lily De
>> Silva, London 1970: Luzac, vol. 2, p. 246, ll. 14ff.
>> /vāḷasaṅghātayantan ti //kakkhalaṃ paṭibhayadassanaṃ
>> aññamaññapaṭib{h}addhagamanāditāya saṅghāṭitaṃ
>> rūpakayantaṃ//yojesi. ten’ āha “kaṭṭharūpakānī”ti ādi/.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Seishi Karashima
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-12 21:42 GMT+09:00 Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu
>> <mailto:mmdesh at umich.edu>>:
>>
>> Hi Artur,
>>
>> I checked Google Images for "Nagayantra", and there are
>> several interesting diagrams and designs for such Yantras,
>> some of which are evidently found in Thai Buddhist temples.
>> Here is a link:
>>
>> http://www.sak-yant.com/archive/108yant/payanakarach/yantpayanakarach.jpg
>> <http://www.sak-yant.com/archive/108yant/payanakarach/yantpayanakarach.jpg>
>>
>> Madhav
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl
>> <mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>> wrote:
>>
>> > contraption
>>
>> :)
>>
>> any image of ?
>>
>> 2016-09-12 14:29 GMT+02:00 Madhav Deshpande
>> <mmdesh at umich.edu <mailto:mmdesh at umich.edu>>:
>>
>> Hi Artur,
>>
>> It probably refers to some contraption
>> surrounded by a host of serpents. Serpents as
>> guardians of hidden underground treasures is a
>> reasonably common idea in Indian literature.
>>
>> Madhav
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Artur Karp
>> <karp at uw.edu.pl <mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Madhav,
>>
>> The PTS,s Pali-English Dict.:
>>
>> *Vāḷa* - [cp. late Sk. vyāḍa, see Geiger, /P.
>> Gr/. § 54⁶] I. a snake Vism 312 (so read for
>> *vaḷa*).- 2. a beast of prey [...] *vāḷa-miga*, a
>> beast of prey, predaceous animal, like tiger,
>> leopard, etc. [...]
>>
>> When in search for the Elixir of immortality
>> Garuda enters the underworld, he kills *two
>> serpents* hidden under the [eternally] revolving
>> wheel. (Mbh. I, 29. 3-9).
>>
>> When the relics of the Buddha are hidden by
>> Ajatasattu in the underground chamber, Vissakamma
>> places over them, for their defence the
>> [eternally] revolving *vāḷa–saṅghāṭa–yanta.*
>> *
>> *
>> If *vāḷa* would mean "snake, serpent", then this
>> could be one of the tropes linking both the
>> narrations.
>>
>> *Yanta *means "contrivance, artifice, instrument,
>> machine, mechanism" - in what way could it be
>> constructed/pegged together - using serpents?
>> Ataching it to serpents? Giving it a serpentine look?
>>
>> Artur
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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