[INDOLOGY] Diacriticals in unicode, single or multiple glyphs

[Harry Spier]

Dear list members,

Dominik said:

each SARIT file notes that the encoding is IAST, and notes where that
> differs from the ISO standard.
>
> . . . . .. . .

> (The International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Alphabet_of_Sanskrit_Transliteration>).
> IAST differs in small ways from ISO 15919, but is preferred by most working
> Sanskrit scholars.
>
>
The link given on the SARIT page  is to the Wikipedia IAST page .  This
wikipedia  IAST page lists the differences between ISO 15919 and IAST but
it has major errors.  It says ISO 15919 uses e and o with macron over it
where IAST uses e and o.  This is incorrect.  ISO 15919 agrees with IAST in
usage of e and o in transliterating devanagari.

Note the ISO 15919 wikipedia also has this error.  It says to use e and o
with macron where the actual ISO document says to use e and o without
macron.

I've checked the actual ISO 15919 document.

Thanks,
Harry Spier

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> On 18 November 2016 at 18:23, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've just looked at the Sanskrit Library, SARIT and GRETIL texts and I
>> see that these use IAST transliteration for anusvara (dot under m) while
>> Muktabodha digital library uses ISO15919 for anusvara (dot on top of m).
>>
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Peter Scharf <scharfpm7 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>> The Sanskrit Library transcoding facility on line at
>>> http://sanskritlibrary.org/transcodeText.html does indeed transcode to
>>> Romanization using the preferred Unicode composites of characters plus
>>> diacritics.  Our off-line transcoding software
>>>
>>>    - TranscodeFile (Java program)
>>>    <http://sanskritlibrary.org/software/transcodeFile.html>
>>>
>>>  which is downloadable from http://sanskritlibrary.org/downloads.html has
>>> a large array of transcoders one of which transcodes to Romanization using
>>> precomposed Unicode characters that include diacritics.  The problem with
>>> searching that Harry Spier mentions is just one of a number of reasons why
>>> Malcolm Hyman and I designed the Sanskrit Library phonetic encoding for all
>>> our linguistic programming, including both the encoding of texts and
>>> searching, and use Unicode only for display, and data input if desired
>>> (though for the latter purpose SLP and most other meta-encodings are
>>> preferable).  Our book *Linguistic Issues in Encoding Sanskrit*
>>> available at http://sanskritlibrary.org/publications.html discusses the
>>> issues comprehensively.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Harry Spier <
>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> In unicode you can write characters with diacriticals with either a
>>>> single glyph or you can combine the character with the diacritical writing
>>>> it in two glyphs.
>>>>
>>>> This is a problem when one searchs sanskrit etexts.
>>>>
>>>> For example, the letters with diacriticals in the Muktabodha digital
>>>> library are written with one glyph and as far as I can see GRETIL does the
>>>> same thing.  But the transcoding utility at  "The Sanskrit Library"
>>>> http://sanskritlibrary.org/transcodeText.html
>>>> combines letters with their diacriticals in two glyphs.
>>>>  So if you used the Sanskrit Library utility to create a transliterated
>>>> word such as for example: *śākti* and then searched texts from
>>>> either GRETIL or Muktabodha for that word your search wouldn't find
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>
>>>>
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