[INDOLOGY] Lexicographic order / sentence boundaries

[Walter Slaje]

​​
Yes, but obviously a tendency of forgetfulness seems to prevail on this
list, which on occasion necessitates brief reminders, as Dr Dimitrov's and
mine were intended to be. Zgusta's paper of 1988 rightly deserves to be
called "of long ago". For it certainly
​does ​
not reflect the current state of research in the history of PW lexicography
in the context of its scholarly environment
​, nor is it free from methodological shortcomings​
.
In the meantime, entirely new documents have been brought to light,
presented and discussed by Agnes Stache-Weiske. The latest of her
recommendable papers is entitled
„Man muß zuweilen Insekten mit Kanonen schießen." Max Müllers Rolle im
Streit zwischen Böhtlingk und Monier-Williams. In: "In her right hand she
held a silver knife with small bells ...". Studien zur indischen Kultur und
Literatur. Hrsg. v. Anna Aurelia Esposito et al. Wiesbaden 2015, pp.
323-336.

The interested reader will draw much benefit from Stache-Weiske's rich
documentary work, which comprises also letter editions and allows anyone to
form themselves an opinion on this and related matters with the help of
substantial, excellently edited source materials.

Best, WS

2016-11-03 10:42 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Silk <kauzeya at gmail.com>:

> Dr Dimitrov may have pointed out recently the debt of MW to PW, but this
> is not new; a paper from long ago has been cited on this list before, in
> which the exact situation is investigated in detail:
> https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/lexi.1988.4.
> issue-1/9783110244083.145/9783110244083.145.xml
>
> Best, Jonathan
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Walter Slaje <slaje at kabelmail.de> wrote:
>
>> I think the answer is simple. Monier's dictionary is basically a
>> translation of Boehtlingk's PW, as Dr Dimitrov has pointed out only
>> recently. One of the consequences thereof is that Monier has also adopted
>> Boehtlingk's order of meanings, which generally depict the chronological
>> sequence and related textual categories of his sources. In the present
>> case, evidence for the first meaning of aṭṭa ("watch-tower") was found by
>> him in the Rāmāyaṇa, the second in Hemacandra's Abhidhānacintāmaṇi. A close
>> perusal of Boehtlingk's prefaces to his own dictionaries (PW & pw) and the
>> principles he followed will possibly clarify also the matter as far as
>> Monier-Williams' plagiarism is concerned. He might however have left an
>> information about the way he structured the order of meanings in his
>> preface.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> WS
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
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>> Deutschland
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-11-03 9:31 GMT+01:00 <hellwig7 at gmx.de>:
>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>>
>>> 1) I am trying to find out by which lexicographic principles
>>> Monier-Williams and Cappeller ordered the **meanings** of each word in
>>> their dictionaries.
>>> For instance, MW gives the following first definitions for the lemma
>>> aTTa: "a watch-tower; a market, a market-place (...); N. of a Yaksha, ..."
>>> – My question is: Why "a watch-tower; a market..." and not "a market; a
>>> watch-tower ..."? Tried to find an explanation in his preface, but was not
>>> able to detect it. Does anybody have a citation for this ordering?
>>>
>>> 2) A while back, I asked for your collaboration in annotating sentence
>>> boundaries in a few fragments of Sanskrit texts. Thanks to those who took
>>> the time for going through the sentences!
>>> You find the merged results here:
>>> http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/tmp/annotations.html
>>> Seems to be more complicated than expected!
>>>
>>> Best, Oliver
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Oliver Hellwig, SFB 991, University of Düsseldorf
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