Re: [INDOLOGY] MM. Prof. S. Kuppuswami Sastri's saṁskāra name

[Nagaraj Paturi]

1. The two cases , that of Prof. Deshpande being asked to add S'arma to his
name Madhava during his upanayana samskaara and the name of Venkatavarma
being a totally different name than the name Kuppuswami Sastri seem to be
two different conventions.

2. 'Varma' being in the community-indicating  name-ending of the son of a
Brahmin father is possible in a matrilineal Keralite family system that
prevailed till recently in Kerala, if the mother in that case is from
a Varma ('Kshatriya') lineage.

3. But the case of Sri Kuppuswami Sastri doesn't seem to be even that. Is
'varma' a name ending separated from the part Venkata in this case ? The
concept of 'samskaara name' in this case seems to be intriguingly strange.


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Dear Palaniappan,
>
> This is interesting.  At my Upanayana ceremony in Pune, when I was 8 year
> old, I was told to say the following greeting to the teacher/priest:  ...
> mādhavaśarmā aham abhivādaye.  The addition of Śarman to my first name was
> supposed to indicate my Brahmin family background.  That added part
> "--śarman" was not used elsewhere.  I have not heard of -varmā as a part of
> the Saṃskāra-name among Brahmins, but there must be regional variations.
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
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>> Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:52:08 -0500
>> Subject: MM. Prof. S. Kuppuswami Sastri's saṁskāra name
>> In his obituary of MM. Prof. S. Kuppuswami Sastri, V. Raghavan says,
>> “Kuppuswami by the popular name and Venkatavarma by his Saṁskāra-name, he
>> was the fourth son of Seturama Ayyar…” (New Indian Antiquary, April, 1944,
>> p.17. The link was given by Manu Francis in another post). How common is
>> ‘varma' as a part of the Saṁskāra-name of Brahmins?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Regards,
>> Palaniappan
>>
>>
>
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Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )


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