[INDOLOGY] Unicode Devanagari on Mac

Fri Jul 15 21:15:33 UTC 2016

Hello Hans,

     Which keyboard-layout are you using to produce these characters?

Madhav

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Hock, Hans Henrich <hhhock at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> Dear Madhav,
>
> Though there may be some limitations on stacking, it is possible to
> produce the following symbol on the Mac (still system 10.9.5): ā̃́. The
> first diacritic (the macron) is accessed by typing option a + a; the other
> two diacritics by entering shift-option n and shift-option e AFTER having
> typed assembled the basic ā character. This post-character shift-option
> input procedure doesn’t seem to be well advertised; I more or less stumbled
> upon it in some university’s instructions for its faculty.
>
> There is one concern, however: While ā and the like is treated as a single
> glyph in unicode and thus transfers well between unicode-compatible
> platforms, more complex character, such as ā́, ā̃, or ā̃́, are not single
> glyphs and may therefore not transfer across platforms. We ran into this
> problem in producing the documents from which the new South Asia volume in
> the series World of Linguistics have been printed, and the only thing that
> we could do was submit a pdf-version indicating the desired character shape.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
>
> On 15 Jul 2016, at 13:13, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> This is a question as to how to get multiple markings on the same vowel
> sign.  In my pre-Unicode diacritics font Manjushree-CSX, I had included,
> for instance, the sign for vowel "a" with three markings, length, nasality
> and accent.  This is necessary to represent Pāṇinian procedures accurately.
> Pāṇini deals with eighteen varieties of "a, i, u, ṛ" etc. differing in
> length, accent and nasality. Is there a way to do this with unicode fonts
> and keyboards?
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Jeffery Long <dharmaprof108 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The ABC Extended keyboard on the Mac is good for all diacritical marks.
>> Combining the option key with a gives the macron: ā, ī, etc.  Option + x = underdot:
>> ṃ, ṣ, etc.  Option + w = overdot: ṅ.  Option + e = accent mark: ś.  Tilde
>> is of course option + n: ñ.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jeff
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>> On Friday, July 15, 2016 9:17 AM, Jonathan Silk <kauzeya at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Maybe indeed I'm missing something but the Asian Extended keyboard (made,
>> if I am not wrong, by Nobumi Iyanaga) works perfectly for diacritics, no
>> mess, no fuss.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>>      The old Easy Unicode keyboard-layout does work on my Mac that has
>> the latest operating system and the latest MS Office 360.  Try reinstalling
>> the keyboard file, if you have it.  If not, I can send it to you.  Best,
>>
>> Madhav
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:44 AM, David Mellins <dmellins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, This is true, but have you found a convenient way to enter the full
>> range  of diacritica for Romanized Sanskrit without having to resort to
>> Emoji/Latin/favorites inserts?
>>
>> This is not the worst thing in the world, but slower than the old Easy
>> Unicode or Dev Unicode keyboards.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm shocked.  I don't pay much attention to the Mac world, but I've been
>> typing Devanagari into everything on my computer for many years (Linux).  I
>> had no idea that this wasn't possible or easy on a Mac.  Wow.  And the Mac
>> used to be the byword for multilingual support.  I'm glad it's okay now, at
>> least.
>>
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>> On 15 July 2016 at 12:58, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Indologists,
>>
>>      To my happy surprise, I found that with the combination of the
>> latest version of Microsoft Office 360 for Mac and the latest Mac Operating
>> System OS X El Capitan, it is now possible to directly enter Unicode
>> Devanagari in a Word document with the Devanagari - QWERTY keyboard
>> layout.  Previously, I had to enter Unicode Devanagari in something like
>> TextEdit and then copy and paste into a Word document, but was not able to
>> edit it in the Word document.  The new development of software has happily
>> changed that situation.  Hope this information will be of use to some of
>> you.  Best,
>>
>> Madhav Deshpande
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