[INDOLOGY] M-W Sanskrit-English Dictionary Co-Authors
Valerie Roebuck
vjroebuck at btinternet.com
Fri Apr 29 13:55:17 UTC 2016
Life as one of of Monier-Williams’ assistants may not have been entirely a bed of roses. Please raise a glass to the unfortunate Dr Schönberg, whom I can’t help thinking of as the Bob Cratchett of Indology:
> He was succeeded by the late Dr. Schönberg (a pupil of the late Professor Bühler), who came to me in a condition of great physical weakness, and whose assistance only extended from May 20, 1884, to July 19, 1885, when he left me to die. He was a good scholar, and a good worker, but impatient of supervision, and, despite my vigilance, I found it impossible to guard against a few errors of omission and commission due to the rapid impairment of his powers.
Valerie J Roebuck
Manchester, UK
> On 29 Apr 2016, at 10:26, Artur Karp <karp at UW.EDU.PL> wrote:
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> From: Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl <mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>>
> Date: 2016-04-29 11:18 GMT+02:00
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] M-W Sanskrit-English Dictionary Co-Authors
> To: Klaus Karttunen <klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi <mailto:klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi>>
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> Thanks for that clarification.
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> But, dear Klaus, I still tend to have doubts. Has M-W's correspondence been checked? Have M-W Indian travels itineraries been checked? The lists of people he visited collated?
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> M-W reminisces (p. VII): "[...] on each occasion I met to my surprise with learned and thoughtful natives [...] able and willing [...] to explain difficult points in their languages, literatures, religions , and philosophies."
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> And - even if not M-W himself, his other Western cooperators/contributors must have had Indian assistants, at some or other time of their professional careers as Indologists.
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> I can see the topic has undergone a split.
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> Regards,
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> Artur K.
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> 2016-04-29 10:46 GMT+02:00 Klaus Karttunen <klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi <mailto:klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi>>:
> It was noted by several contemporary critics. He even copies some of the misprints appearing in the Peterburg dictionary. But this was the first edition of Monier Williams (1872). The second edition (1899) was completely revised and in this he was helped by several assistants and colleagues – all mentioned at the end of his introduction. He visited India three times, but never lived there, and there were no pandits in Oxford.
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> Best,
> Klaus
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> Klaus Karttunen
> South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies
> Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures
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>> On 29 Apr 2016, at 11:37, Krishnaprasad G <krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com <mailto:krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I noticed, he just translated ( based on) Kleines Petersburger Woerterbuch (Boehtlingk) Sanskrit-German Dictionary (one can easily verify this)
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>> also he mentiones Radhakanta Dev who is an editor of Shabdakalpadruma
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>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl <mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>> wrote:
>> Sir Monier Monier-Williams, M.A., K.C.I.E., pays due tribute to his Western contributors. But I do not find in his Dictionary any mention of his Indian contributors' input - no list of Pandits who worked for him - without them, without their immense knowledge, his Opus Magnum would have never appeared in print.
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>> I can only wish that someone with access to M-W's working archive would find documents re M-W's Indian employees and publish their names, more: using Indian archive materials - their full biograms.
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>> They deserve to be finally brought out of that area of shadow surrounding colonial Indology.
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>> Regards,
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>> Artur Karp
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>> University of Warsaw (emeritus)
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>> Poland
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