[INDOLOGY] a i and ai

[Dipak Bhattacharya]

I should have rather written

aï =a+i that is with hiatus

The script was distorted by Windows that types *i* in upper case by
default.

Best

DB

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Christophe Vielle <
christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> wrote:

> Thank you to the colleagues for their valuable remarks and suggestions.
> Within a compound, I would adopt in this case the solution of the
> diaeresis/trema (Monier-Willams, Bloomfield, etc.), manaḥ+indriya- =
> manaïndriya, and keep, distinctly, the apostrophe for the different case
> where an initial a is elided e.g. manaḥ+artha = mano'rtha.
> Best wishes,
> Christophe
>
> Le 27 avr. 2016 à 12:09, <dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk> <
> dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk> a écrit :
>
> Dear Sven,
>
> Thank you for pointing this out. Yes, in a compound I'd put a hyphen, not
> a space.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Dermot
>
> On 27 Apr 2016 at 11:57, Sven Sellmer wrote:
>
> Dear Dermot and Christophe,
>
> yotsya iti does not seem to be a proper example, because it is no
> compound. I personally
> would use a hyphen, like so:
>
> mana-indriya-
>
> Best wishes,
> Sven
>
>    Am 27.04.2016 um 11:39 schrieb dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk:
>
>    Dear Christophe,
>
>    The usual practice in roman script is to separate the two vowels with a
> space, showing
>    that they are not a diphthong but belong to two different syllables.
> E.g.
>
>    mana + indriya- = mana indriya-
>
>    I don't think that looks strange. You can see it for instance in
> Edgerton's Bhagavadgita
>    (Harvard U. Press, 1952) ch 2 verse 9c: na yotsya iti govindam (na +
> yotsye + iti).
>
>    By the way, what distinguishes the separate vowels from the diphthong
> in nagari is not
>    the space (which isn't always marked in manuscripts) but the fact that
> the second
>    vowel (in your case the i) is written with a character, not with a
> stroke added to a
>    consonant character. This makes a space possible, though not necessary.
> Indeed,
>    such hiatus can occur within a word, which is rare in Sanskrit (e.g.
> pra'uga "the forepart
>    of the shafts of a chariot; triangle"), but common in Prakrit. Here, it
> would be very odd
>    to write a space, since it's within a word. I've marked the hiatus with
> an apostrophe, but
>    Monier-Williams does it with diaeresis/tréma (two superscript dots).
>
>    I hope that solves your doubts quicker than Arjuna's.
>
>    With best wishes,
>
>    Dermot
>
>    On 27 Apr 2016 at 10:59, Christophe Vielle wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>    is there a way in Roman script for distinguishing in a compound the
> result of - a +
>    vowel other than a which could be i =  a i, with hiatus, from the
> diphthong ai resulting from a/a
>    + e/ai ?
>    ex. mana + indriya- = manaindrya- (?) beside manasa + aindriya =
> manasaindriya
>    In nâgarî script I find written mana indrya- with a space put between
> the two members, but it
>    would look strange in Roman script.
>    Any suggestion welcome.
>    Best wishes,
>    Christophe Vielle
>
>
>
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