[INDOLOGY] a i and ai

[Christophe Vielle]

Thank you to the colleagues for their valuable remarks and suggestions.
Within a compound, I would adopt in this case the solution of the diaeresis/trema (Monier-Willams, Bloomfield, etc.), manaḥ+indriya- = manaïndriya, and keep, distinctly, the apostrophe for the different case where an initial a is elided e.g. manaḥ+artha = mano'rtha.
Best wishes,
Christophe

Le 27 avr. 2016 à 12:09, <dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk> <dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk> a écrit :

> Dear Sven,
> 
> Thank you for pointing this out. Yes, in a compound I'd put a hyphen, not a space.
> 
> With best wishes,
> 
> Dermot
> 
> On 27 Apr 2016 at 11:57, Sven Sellmer wrote:
> 
> Dear Dermot and Christophe,
> 
> yotsya iti does not seem to be a proper example, because it is no compound. I personally 
> would use a hyphen, like so: 
> 
> mana-indriya-
> 
> Best wishes,
> Sven
> 
>    Am 27.04.2016 um 11:39 schrieb dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk:
> 
>    Dear Christophe,
> 
>    The usual practice in roman script is to separate the two vowels with a space, showing 
>    that they are not a diphthong but belong to two different syllables. E.g.
> 
>    mana + indriya- = mana indriya-
> 
>    I don't think that looks strange. You can see it for instance in Edgerton's Bhagavadgita 
>    (Harvard U. Press, 1952) ch 2 verse 9c: na yotsya iti govindam (na + yotsye + iti).
> 
>    By the way, what distinguishes the separate vowels from the diphthong in nagari is not 
>    the space (which isn't always marked in manuscripts) but the fact that the second 
>    vowel (in your case the i) is written with a character, not with a stroke added to a 
>    consonant character. This makes a space possible, though not necessary. Indeed, 
>    such hiatus can occur within a word, which is rare in Sanskrit (e.g. pra'uga "the forepart 
>    of the shafts of a chariot; triangle"), but common in Prakrit. Here, it would be very odd 
>    to write a space, since it's within a word. I've marked the hiatus with an apostrophe, but 
>    Monier-Williams does it with diaeresis/tréma (two superscript dots).
> 
>    I hope that solves your doubts quicker than Arjuna's.
> 
>    With best wishes,
> 
>    Dermot
> 
>    On 27 Apr 2016 at 10:59, Christophe Vielle wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
>    is there a way in Roman script for distinguishing in a compound the result of - a + 
>    vowel other than a which could be i =  a i, with hiatus, from the diphthong ai resulting from a/a 
>    + e/ai ?
>    ex. mana + indriya- = manaindrya- (?) beside manasa + aindriya = manasaindriya
>    In nâgarî script I find written mana indrya- with a space put between the two members, but it 
>    would look strange in Roman script.
>    Any suggestion welcome.
>    Best wishes,
>    Christophe Vielle
> 
> 
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