[INDOLOGY] Sources for verses on fate/karma

Wed May 27 19:31:57 UTC 2015

The opening of Vyomaśiva’s commentary appears in clearer form in my article,  Padārthasaṅgrahaṭīkā of Vyomaśiva: A Partial Reconstruction of Folia 2-3a, pages 401-413 of Karin Preisendanc, editor, Expanding and Merging Horizons (Vienna, 2007).

We may doubt that devībhāgavatam is the source of the verse nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi |avaśyameva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||

Here is devībhāgavatam 9.40.72cd-74cd:

uktaṃ hi svakṛtaṃ karma bhujyatekhilabhārate || 72 ||

śubhāśubhaṃ ca yatkiñcitsvakarmaphalabhukpumān | nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi || 73 ||

avaśyameva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham | ityevamuktaṃ vede ca kṛṣṇena paramātmanā || 74 ||

devībhāgavatam 9.29.69cd reads only this half verse: nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi || 69||. The reference to verse 70 appears to be an error.

Note: I have used a scan of the edition by rāmatejapāṇḍya available for download at vedpuran.net <http://vedpuran.net/>. The scan gives only the text without the title page, etc.

I need some help in understanding Walter’s mahābhārata reference.

I will upload a pdf of the CSS edition of vyomaśiva’s commentary  to archive.org <http://archive.org/> in the near future. I downloaded this from DLI.

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> On 26 May  2015, at 22:49, David and Nancy Reigle <dnreigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I, too, am interested in this verse on karma, and in the very old source reference for it kindly provided by Walter. For those who do not have the 1925-1930 Benares edition of the Prasastapadabhashyam that includes the Vyomavati commentary, this verse is found on p. 3 of vol. 1 of the improved edition of the Vyomavatī edited by Gaurinath Sastri (Varanasi: Sampurnanand Sanskrit Vishvavidyalaya, 1983). Gaurinath Sastri there adds in parentheses references to Devī-bhāgavata 9.29.69-70 and 40.73.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David Reigle
> Colorado, U.S.A.
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Walter Slaje <slaje at kabelmail.de <mailto:slaje at kabelmail.de>> wrote:
> For the full stanza,
> see Vyomashiva's VyomavatI (Benares 1930) p. 20 (kha), 2;
> for the first line only cp. Mahabharata 13, App. 15, 2200 A 1 pr.
> 
> Quoted (with parallels from other philosophers) in W. Slaje, "Untersuchungen zur Chronologie einiger Nyaya-Philosophen (StII 11-12 [1986]: p.254, n. 54).
> 
> Best, WS
> 
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> 2015-05-26 20:24 GMT+02:00 Martin Gansten <martin.gansten at pbhome.se <mailto:martin.gansten at pbhome.se>>:
> Thanks for this similar verse, David. I'd still be very interested to hear from anyone who has seen the verses quoted by Balabhadra in any other sources than those mentioned.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Martin
> 
> 
> David and Nancy Reigle wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Martin,
>> 
>> Regarding your third verse:
>> 
>> nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatair api |
>> avaśyam eva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||
>> 
>> You are no doubt aware of a similar verse that is found in a number of Buddhist texts. An early source for it has recently been published, from which I here quote it:
>> 
>> na praṇaśyanti karmāṇi kalpakoṭiśatair api |
>> sāmagrīṃ prāpya kālaṃ ca phalanti khalu dehināṃ ||
>> 
>> This is from the Dhanapālakavaineyasūtra, published in A Unique Collection of Twenty Sūtras in a Sanskrit Manuscript from the Potala, editions and translation by Bhikṣuṇī Vinītā, vol. I,2, p. 692 (Sanskrit Texts from the Tibetan Autonomous Region, no. 7/2. Beijing -- Vienna: China Tibetology Publishing House, Austrian Academy of Sciences Press, 2010).
>> 
>> While this does not answer your question, I thought it worthwhile to cite this recently available old source for the similar Buddhist verse. 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> David Reigle
>> Cotopaxi, Colorado, U.S.A.
>> 
>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Martin Gansten <martin.gansten at pbhome.se <mailto:martin.gansten at pbhome.se>> wrote:
>> Balabhadra in the early 17th century quotes several verses on the topic of niyati/daiva and karma. I have found some of these in other works but not others, and even for the ones I have found, I suspect there are earlier or more common sources. Any help with attributing the following would be much appreciated:
>> 
>> 1. Attributed to Śaunaka:
>> 
>> yena tu yat prāptavyaṃ tasya vidhānaṃ sureśasacivo ’pi |
>> yaḥ sākṣān niyatijñaḥ so ’pi na śakyo ’nyathā kartum || iti |
>> 
>> 2. No attribution, but found (with variants) in Pañcadaśī 156 and Mahāsubhāṣitasaṃgraha 3283:
>> 
>> avaśyambhāvibhāvānāṃ pratīkāro bhaved yadi |
>> tadā duḥkhair na bādhyeran nalarāmayudhiṣṭhirāḥ ||
>> 
>> 3. No attribution, but apparently popular -- found (with variants) in Nāradapurāṇa 1.31.69 and 2.29.18 and Mahāsubhāṣitasaṃgraha 3292 (also quoted in Āyurvedadīpikā and Satyaśāsanaparīkṣā); the question is what would be either the earliest source or the most common/typical one in the early 1600s:
>> 
>> nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatair api |
>> avaśyam eva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||
>> 
>> 4. Attributed simply to smṛti:
>> 
>> hanyate durbalaṃ daivaṃ pauruṣeṇa vipaścitā 
>> 
>> Many thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Martin Gansten
>> 
>> 
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