[INDOLOGY] Fwd: Article about the politics surrounding Indology at the IHRC

[Nagaraj Paturi]

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From: Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Article about the politics surrounding Indology at
the IHRC
To: Jesse Knutson <jknutson at hawaii.edu>


Dear Prof. Jesse Knutson,

When your post ended with the words, "To attribute the IVC cultural
achievements to the speakers of
Vedic is extremely racist and chauvinistic " and it was in direct
continuation of a sentence in reference to Prof. Bharadwaj who I do not
know whether is a member of the Indology list or not, I thought you did not
consider those words 'racist' and 'chauvinistic' to be 'heated' or
'calling somebody as something' and so on. I thought you would receive my
words which were not different from yours with the same, probably
academic sportive?, spirit with which you, I am sure would
have expected Prof. Bharadwaj to receive your words.

Probably you continue to expect similar academic sportive spirit? from the
readers of your words in the present post such as morons.

Now that I know that you appear to have been offended by the words used by
you when I used them, I apologise to you for any act of offending that I
caused to you by using such words. I sincerely would like to clarify
that my use of those words was with a pure academic spirit and no personal
offense was intended. Apologies again for any inadvertent ill feeling
created.

Thanks for your understanding.

Warm regards,

Nagaraj



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Jesse Knutson <jknutson at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Prof. Paturi, Kind sir, 1. I only wished to point out that the IVC was a
> distinct civilization from the speakers of Old Indo- Aryan. I did not mean
> better, just technologically more advanced, and distinct. This are facts
> that need not contain any additional value judgment. 2. I know that IVC
> seals have not been deciphered, but simply wished to point out that in all
> probability, in the opinion of most experts, they did not speak an
> Indo-European or Indo-Aryan language. The only people who believe otherwise
> are the true racists and chauvinists, the Hindutva morons who sadly are in
> a position of great power in your country today.
>
> So I would recommend that, in a spirit of intellectual integrity and calm,
> you try to discern the intent of someone's comments, before you start using
> heated language, and calling people racists and chauvinists.
>
> Good day,J
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Apart from Prof. Howard Resnick's analysis, the following from  Prof.
>> Jesse Knutston also deserves attention:
>>
>> when in fact the IVC was a highly developed civilization, of greater
>> antiquity than the Veda, which did not speak an Indo-Aryan or
>> Indo-European
>> language. To attribute the IVC cultural achievements to the speakers of
>> Vedic is extremely racist and chauvinistic.
>>
>> 1. 'IVC was a highly developed Civilization' has the following
>> assumptions : a. civilizations are superior to non-civilizational cultures.
>> b. IVC has that superiority of being a civilizational culture. This is
>> confirmed by the expression 'IVC cultural acievements'
>>
>> 2. 'which did not speak an Indo-Aryan or Indo-European language' has this
>> assumption: The language spoken by the IVC people is clearly, undisputedly
>> known through the decipherment of the seals and other such 'written'
>> evidences.
>>
>> Assumption under 1. is racist, evolutionist and has urban chauvinism.
>>
>> Assumtion under 2. is in contradiction with the fact that the language of
>> the IVC speakers is still under dispute and not yet clearly established.
>> --
>> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
>> Hyderabad-500044
>>
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>
>
> --
> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD
> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific
> Languages and Literatures
> University of Hawai'i at Mānoa
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>



-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044



-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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