[INDOLOGY] The place of Indology in the Academy

Madhav Deshpande mmdesh at umich.edu
Mon Oct 27 16:06:13 UTC 2014


Just to add a footnote to Patrick's message, I agree with him that "So, it
is safer to have a broader and larger home in which factors such as student
enrollments can be better managed to satisfy the number crunchers."  In my
own Department of Asian Languages and Cultures at the University of
Michigan, the large enrollments in courses like Introduction to Buddhism
and Tibetan Buddhism (sometimes touching 300 students) help raise the
average enrollments for the whole department, and allow us to teach some
classes with smaller enrollments.  But there is also a question of
different levels of external funding available for different areas within
Asian Studies.  The areas of China, Japan and Korea almost always have
greater external financial sources than the areas of India or South East
Asia.  Within South Asian Studies, there are more external funding
resources available for studies of modern South Asia, rather than those of
classical South Asia.  That is a general pattern that I have observed over
the years.

Madhav

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>
wrote:

> Dominik, Madhav, and all:
>
> My own experience being a Chair for longer than I care to remember is that
> there is no one "optimum" institutional setting or home for "Indology", by
> which we mean, I think, the study of classical/ancient India. It is easy to
> come up with abstract optimum settings, but they are of little value unless
> local conditions are taken into account. As we know, all "classical"
> studies are under institutional and budgetary threat -- note the
> elimination of classical archeology etc. even in Britain. My experience is
> "being small means being under threat". So, it is safer to have a broader
> and larger home in which factors such as student enrollments can be better
> managed to satisfy the number crunchers. In the US, in general Indological
> areas are represented in several larger settings: South Asian Studies,
> Asian Studies (thus including East Asia), and Religious Studies. Individual
> Indological faculty members may be located in other departments: Classics
> (Brown), History, Linguistics, etc. I think the most advantageous setting
> is Departments of South Asian OR Asian Studies, mainly because all areas of
> Indology can be represented there -- from Philology, Grammar, and
> Literature to Mathematics, Philosophy, and Medicine. Religion Departments
> offer only a narrow spectrum, but because they are many in the US they do
> offer the best employment opportunities to our students!!
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Madhav,
>
> Yes, quite.  So, could you reframe the basic question as one about the
> pros and cons of different institutional locations of "South Asian Studies"?
>
> Best,
> Dominik
>
>
> On 27 October 2014 15:44, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> In most American Universities, the word "Indology" is almost unheard of
>> these days.  After Edward Said's "Orientalism", the word "Oriental"
>> survives in a few universities only as an exception.  The Department of
>> Oriental Studies at the University of Pennsylvania where I earned my Ph.D.
>> in 1972 became Asian and Middle Eastern Studies in 1992.  "India" has
>> been largely replaced by "South Asia" in most places.  Once I introduced to
>> someone as being an Indologist, and the person asked me if that was a
>> department in the hospital!
>>
>> Madhav
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In Germany, there are (still) departments of Indology.  In a sense, such
>>> German departments are conceptually parallel to departments of Classics.
>>> In most universities elsewhere, Indology "lives" somewhere within a larger
>>> unit, such as Religious Studies, Classics, Asian Studies (or Oriental
>>> Studies), Philosophy or History.
>>>
>>> Institutionally speaking, where does Indology flourish best?  For what
>>> reasons?
>>>
>>> Clearly there are determining issues, perhaps principally, "how many
>>> Indologists are we talking about?"  If there is one Indological faculty
>>> member, she would normally be appointed within History, Philosophy or
>>> Religious Studies, etc.   But if there are three or four faculty members
>>> (not so common?), a critical mass is beginning to form that requires its
>>> own institutional recognition.  What is this critical mass?
>>>
>>> The faculty or department with which Indology shares space will also
>>> therefore form the main group of competitors for Indological resources
>>> (faculty positions, library budget, teaching room allocation, etc.).  With
>>> whom do Indologists compete successfully?  Perhaps this always reduces to
>>> issues of personality and local dynamics.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Dominik
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>> The University of Michigan
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>
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Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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