[INDOLOGY] Lamentations

[Charlie Higgins]

Kevin and Howard-

Thank you for your prompt responses.  I will look into both of your
suggestions in the coming days.  Also, thank you in advance to others who
reply.

I might clarify that the thrust of Zhu Xi's 'laments' are historical and
comparative.  He criticizes ritual behavior and contemporary customs as
degradations of those practices of his predecessors.  X is worse than Y
because of Z.  Zhi Xi's treatise might be more social critiques than
laments.

Thanks again,

Charlie

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Howard Resnick <hr at ivs.edu> wrote:

> Hello Charlie,
>         The notion of "laulyam", "ardent longing" (MW), in the sense of
> lamenting the world's state, and one's own fallen condition, and thus
> longing for pure love of God and pure empathy with all souls, is a central
> them in the expansive Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition.
>
>         Excellent and numerous examples of this lamenting are found in the
> celebrated songs of Narottama Dasa Thakura
> http://www.vaishnavsongs.com/narottam-das-thakur/  (click on 'bhajans' at
> the bottom), and Bhaktivinoda Thakura
> http://kksongs.org/authors/full_list/bhaktivinoda_full.html
>
>         Even today, these songs remain very much canonical, and widely
> performed, in the GV tradition.
>
> Best,
> Howard
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Charlie Higgins <practicesyoga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I hope not to be too naive in asking: Can anyone recommend primary or
> secondary sources regarding Indian "lamentations"?  Does such a genre
> exist?  etc.?  I have been reading Song Dynasty Neo-Confucian writers like
> Zhu Xi, who ridicules contemporary behaviors and customs as degradations of
> ancient practices, and I began to wonder about similar lamentations from
> India.  My question doesn't refer so much to prophecies regarding the cycle
> of ages (satya--kaliyuga) and their degradation into the present.  I'm
> wondering about potential firsthand observations that compare present with
> past and lament contemporary practices.  I'm clueless, and any helpful
> suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Charlie
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