Tilak reference?

George Thompson gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET
Wed Nov 2 01:45:34 UTC 2005

Many thanks to Madhav and David.  This is the article that I need to 
cite.  Madhav, would you please forward the page numbers from that 
publication when you have the time?  What is of interest in this article 
is that it claims that the Babylonian god Tiamat is referred to at AVZ 
5.13.4 with the word *taimAta'*, apparently a water-snake of some sort.  
The article also claims that the Babylonian goddess Apsu  is referred to 
in a number of Vedic apsu-compounds.

As it turns out, an intrepid comparatist has recently used these, um, 
fanciful etymologies to support his claim that there was  a significant 
diffusion channel connecting Babylonian mythology not only to the Indus 
Valley Culture, but also to Vedic.  My article attempts to debunk this 

Also, another curiosity in this AVZ hymn: the presence of the obscure 
term *tAbu'va* at AVZ 5.13.10, which seems to refer to another snake, or 
a snake-demon, or snake-poison.  Nevertheless, it used to be suggested 
that it is a certain Polynesian word, which has surfaced in English as 

Human imagination is a marvelous thing!

Thanks again to David and Madhav,


Madhav Deshpande wrote:

>I don't have access to the original publication of this piece by Tilak, but this article titled "Chaldean and the Indian Vedas" (originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemorative Volume) was reprinted in his posthumous book Vedic Chronology and Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, Pune: Messrs Tilak Brothers, Gaikwar Wada.  If you need, I can give page numbers from this publication.
>Madhav M. Deshpande
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
>Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:51 AM
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Tilak reference?
>Dear List,
>I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have 
>written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.
>In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n. 
>2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar 
>Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full 
>title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages 
>numbers occupied by it?
>Thanks in advance for help.
>George Thompson

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