Citta

Matthew Kapstein mkapstei at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Sat Aug 28 13:01:39 UTC 2004


> In fact I have doubts about the pre-Buddhist credentials of
> ChAndogya VII, at least in the form in which it has
> come down to us. I have discussed  this text in "Indra's
> Search for the Self," reprinted in my book Reason's Traces
> (Wisdom 2001). In particular, the typically Buddhist
> use there of upa-labh (Reason's Traces, pp. 79ff), when considered
> together with the actual content of the argument, suggests the
> possibility that the final redaction occurred only
> after Buddhist ideas were current. But I would be
> interested to know how others interpret these data.
>
> Note, however, that it does not make good sense in this
> case to hold that early Buddhist material is
> just reflecting the general Upanishadic milieu. ChAndogya
> VII seems excpetional in both vocabulary and content,
> and so cannot be taken to represent Upanishadic generalities.
>
> Matthew Kapstein
>
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Valerie J Roebuck wrote:
>
> > The Upanishadic ones are: ChAndogya VII.5 (twice), KauSItakI III.3,
> > Prazna III.10 and MaitrI IV.6 (or in some editions VI.34 ), in a
> > sequenceof verses.  The first I think would be considered
> > pre-Buddhist by practically everybody.  The last would be considered
> > post-Buddhist, and indeed Buddhist-influenced, by most.
> >
> > Valerie J Roebuck
> > Manchester, UK
> >
> > >I wonder if anybody could tell me of any early attested occurences of the
> > >word "citta" (mind etc) in early upanishadic or vedic texts -- in other
> > >words, any probable pre-Buddhist occurences.  I ask because I do not have
> > >access at present to indexes or searchable texts.  Many thanks.
> > >
> > >Stephen Hodge
> >
>
>





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