Total instruments of debate

[George Thompson]

In a message dated 9/8/99 1:32:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
abhinav at DEL3.VSNL.NET.IN writes:

> GTSorry , George , that is not true even traditionally. Mantras are
effective
> only if you
>  belief in them to "call upon" the gods and pusue "rituals". They are for
> believers only.
>  For indologists and academics of any place or country, there are no
mantras,
> there are
>  only verses or poetical/metrical texts for historical study or any other
> agenda. ....

With all due respect, Bharat, please look at RV 1.152.2. There you will see
how mantras are used in the RV

Best,
George Thompson