The Fodder of First causes

Paul Kekai Manansala kekai at JPS.NET
Fri Dec 24 18:11:39 UTC 1999


Chris Beetle wrote:
>
> At 04:50 PM 12/18/99 -0500, Edwin Bryant wrote:
>
> >. . . If jiva's own
> >desire is the cause, and karma then reacts to this desire and triggers off
> >samsaric existence, then wherefrom the first inappropriate desire and
> >karmic act?  . . .
>
> Can one say simply that as Isvara has independence, his amsa (the jiva),
> also has independence, though limited in expression, and if jiva uses his
> free will to choose to oppose the Isvara, his samsaric existence begins, and
> when he gives up his rebellion, his samsaric existence ends?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris Beetle

In Christian theology there is a tendency to assign qualities to God.
For example, it is said that God cannot lie, break promises or do other
things that we judge as morally wrong. The proofs of such beliefs are,
of course, subjective just as they are elsewhere.

One could say that in order for free will, or maybe, purusha, to exist
there must be samsara. Without samsara there is no purusha.

Regards,
Paul Kekai Manansala
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