The Fodder of First causes

[Chris Beetle]

At 04:50 PM 12/18/99 -0500, Edwin Bryant wrote:

>. . . If jiva's own
>desire is the cause, and karma then reacts to this desire and triggers off
>samsaric existence, then wherefrom the first inappropriate desire and
>karmic act?  . . .

Can one say simply that as Isvara has independence, his amsa (the jiva),
also has independence, though limited in expression, and if jiva uses his
free will to choose to oppose the Isvara, his samsaric existence begins, and
when he gives up his rebellion, his samsaric existence ends?

Best wishes,

Chris Beetle