[INDOLOGY] A distraction from the Coronavirus

Walter Slaje walter.slaje at gmail.com
Sat Mar 28 11:50:34 EDT 2020


> Rasikasaamaajikas will welcome your poems

Prospective Sanskrit poets should never lose sight of the warning words of
a true Mahākavi:

kuryus tv anukṣaṇam aśikṣitalakṣaṇā ye

kāpeyam āḥ kavipadādhigamaspṛhāyāḥ |

te ’nudgatacchadapuṭā iva pakṣiśāvā
vyagrā haṭhoḍḍayanabhūmny asakṛt patanti ||

yātās te rasasārasaṃgrahavidhiṃ niṣpīḍya niṣpīḍya ye

vāktattvekṣulatāṃ purā katipaye tattvaspṛśaś cakrire |

jāyante ’dya yathāyathaṃ tu kavayas te tatra saṃtanvate
ye ’nuprāsakaṭhoracitrayamakaśleṣādiśalkoccayam ||

paraślokān stokān pratidivasam abhyasya nanu ye

catuṣpādīṃ kuryur bahava iha te santi kavayaḥ |

avicchinnodgacchajjaladhilaharīrītisuhṛdaḥ

suhṛdyā vaiśadyaṃ dadhati kila keṣāṃcana giraḥ ||



Am Sa., 28. März 2020 um 13:57 Uhr schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info>:

> Dear Valerie-ji,
>
> Please go ahead.
>
> Please don't get discouraged by such aprastutaprasanga/aprakritaprasanga.
>
> Rasikasaamaajikas will welcome your poems.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nagaraj
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:33 PM Valerie Roebuck <vjroebuck at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nagaraj
>>
>> Thank you for saying this. I was on the point of attempting to burst
>> forth into Sanskrit verse, but have now been scared off again.
>>
>> Valerie J Roebuck
>> Manchester, UK
>>
>>
>> On 27 Mar 2020, at 12:35, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Measuring number of claps, correlating with the number of pandas, what is
>> all this ? If you are sincere in encouraging ' his first attempts at
>> composing Sanskrit verses  ' ( I didn't know any such details about the
>> poet ) do not drag this twisted discussion beyond this point. Please help
>> the poet through some constructive criticism from your side, without
>> involving comments of others made with good intentions.
>>
>> Sorry, Dr (?) Christian Ferstl for engaging with such unwarranted
>> discussion. I am sure you will understand my true appreciation of your
>> poetic skills.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:29 PM Walter Slaje <walter.slaje at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As you can see, Prof. Deshpande only clapped three times, one clapping
>>> hand for each correct Pāda. He used the dhvani of the missing hand to mark
>>> the first pāda gentlemanly as incorrect.
>>>
>>> In contrast, 24 carrots were awarded for the full number of 4 Pādas, six
>>> carrots each, although the quality is clearly unequally distributed over
>>> the pādas. The assessment was therefore inadequate. Adequate would have
>>> been 18 carrots at best, which is easy to understand if you subtract 6 of
>>> your carrots for the failed Pāda a.
>>>
>>> Leaving aside that we have just learned that correct grammar plays no
>>> significant role in assessing Sanskrit poetry, and, obviously, it never
>>> has. Just look at the language of the ancient kavis. Wherever you look, no
>>> trace of grammar.
>>>
>>> WS
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Fr., 27. März 2020 um 11:15 Uhr schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info>:
>>>
>>>> How sarcastic that Prof. Deshpande's claps below don't look sarcastic
>>>> in spite of the speciality of the rasikakavyaachaarya being grammar.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:30 AM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 👏👏👏
>>>>>
>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>>>>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>>>>>
>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:30 PM Christian Ferstl <
>>>>> christian.ferstl at univie.ac.at> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Arjuna says to Draupadi --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> करो न स्पर्शतु ह्यद्य तव पद्मोपमं करम् ।
>>>>>> करोनाख्यातरक्षो ऽसौ कामदेवेन हन्यताम् ॥
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today my hand must not touch your lotus-like hand.
>>>>>> That demon called Corona must be killed by the God of Love!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems I'm kind of infected by Prof. Deshpande's karona-kāvya virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian Ferstl
>>>>>> University of Vienna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 26.03.2020 15:23, schrieb Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY:
>>>>>> > Draupadi says to Arjuna -
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > मत्स्यं मा विद्ध्य
>>>>>> > कोन्तेय भविता न स्वयंवर: ।
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > कोरोनानिर्गमादूर्ध्वं
>>>>>> > पुनरायाहि सत्वरम् ।।
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > O Arjuna, don’t shoot the fish [with your arrow, to prove that you
>>>>>> > are the best archer], since the ceremony of choosing the groom will
>>>>>> > not be happening. After the Coronavirus goes away, please come back
>>>>>> > quickly.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>> > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>> > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>>>>>> > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
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>>>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>>>
>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy
>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>>>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
>>>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
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>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>
>>
>> Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy
>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
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> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
>
> Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
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