vasishtha.spier at gmail.com
Wed Jun 17 00:15:08 EDT 2020
> The statement "La mention du *k**ī**laka *est courante à l’époque
> moderne." is also interesting. How old are these notions? Are they
> limited to relatively late texts?
Like you I wondered what time span the writer meant by " l’époque
moderne." . The full sentence reads "La mention du *k**ī**laka *est
courante à l’époque moderne.[A.P.]"
Are [A.P.] the initials of the contributing author or something else:?
There is also the statement in the TAK article: Les manuels de rituel qui
mentionnent le *k**ī**laka *le donnent
comme formé par un des éléments constitutifs (mot ou syllabe) du
mantra. Une telle mention ne paraît pas être très ancienne. [A.P.]
But the TAK article doesn't give the names of these ritual manuals that
I see the *kīlaka *in the Rāmarakṣāstotra, but there is no *argalā *in it.
> So it looks like there is no invariable connection between *kīlaka *and *argalā.
> *I have a manuscript in my hand that has some preamble to the
> *Viṣṇusahasranāmastotra*, that refers to various verses in it as *bīja,
> śakti, hr̥daya, kīlaka, astra, kavaca, *and *mantra*. It does not have
> *argalā*, and these various verses assigned these roles are scattered
> throughout the text of the *Viṣṇusahasranāma*. I wonder if it means that
> while reciting the text of the *Viṣṇusahasranāma, *these various steps or
> landmarks happen. I was taught the recitation of this stotra, but the
> recitation does not halt at these various verses to perform anything
> specific. There is something mysterious to me.
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:39 PM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com>
>> Dear Madhav,
>> I've been trying to find this out (especially about *k**ī**laka *for
>> over 20 years.
>> 1. Thomas Coburn in his book "Encountering The Goddess" note 27 to
>> Chapter 6 says:
>> Ambika Datta UpAdhyAya observed that all mantras, Rg Vedic and other,
>> have placed over them a curse which renders their recitation ineffective
>> until it is removed with a kIlaka, a sort of "counter curse". An
>> appropriate kIlaka exists for every mantra. The episode that appears here
>> in the kIlaka is clearly similar, but the restraint is placed on the mantra
>> in SaptazatI not as a curse, but to contain its overwhelming power.
>> 2. The TAK entry for kIlaka is:
>> Au sens figuré, le *k**ī**laka *est un des éléments servant à
>> un mantra tantrique et qui, dans les rites, doivent être imposés,
>> par *ny**ā**sa**, en commençant par le ṛ*ṣ**i* (v. s.v. *rṣā**di**)*. Ce
>> *kī**laka *est conçu comme la pointe grâce à laquelle le mantra va
>> pouvoir se ficher dans la personne ou l’objet qu’il vise et donc
>> agir. Les manuels de rituel qui mentionnent le *k**ī**laka *le donnent
>> comme formé par un des éléments constitutifs (mot ou syllabe) du
>> mantra. Une telle mention ne paraît pas être très ancienne. [A.P.]
>> Le *k**ī**laka*, *PHA**Ṭ******, du *sudar**ś**anasahasran**ā*
>> *mastotramah**ā**mantra *est
>> mentionné dans le Sudarśanasahasranāmastotra donné en appendice
>> de l’AhS (p. 617). [M.R.] Voir aussi TBhS, p. 170, citant un
>> texte non daté. La mention du *k**ī**laka *est courante à l’époque
>> 3. Other than whats above. The vague contradictory information that
>> I've received 15 0r 20 years (I no longer remember the sources) is that
>> it is like a bolt of a lock or a door. Some informants saying that
>> repeating the kIlaka bija syllable removes the pin of the lock or door
>> releasing the power of the mantra. Other informants saying repeating the
>> kIlaka bija syllable puts the pin in the lock or door of the mantra to
>> contain its power so the repeater of the mantra isn't destroyed by the
>> power of the mantra.
>> If you receive any information offlist please pass it on to me.
>> Harry Spier
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:54 PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>> What is the exact significance of the terms अर्गला and कीलक as they
>>> appear in qualifying several mantras, stotras etc? I have seen these
>>> terms, but did not think further about them. Someone asked me this
>>> question, and I did not have an answer.
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
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