[INDOLOGY] dhanvantari

Nagaraj Paturi nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
Thu Sep 21 00:31:14 EDT 2017


Dear Patrick-ji,

I could not get back to you earlier than this as I had to go for my
teaching work.

 'within the multi-trillion dollar wellness industry', what is the ratio of
the 'the global consumption of yoga-inflected lifestyles' ?

Is your current research project focused, among other things, on the 'socio,
political, economic aspirations of the Indian state through AYUSH and MEA'
?  Why are you interested in those aspirations? What is so intriguing about
a state having such aspirations?

Do you think 'Vedic Thai Yoga Massage' that claims to be 5000 years old,
and which also claims this date for the Bhāgavatam, and which explicitly
states that Dhanvantari is a Vedic god' is part of 'the construction of
narratives to also suit socio, political, economic aspirations of the
Indian state through AYUSH and MEA' ?

Are you feeling bad that ' there are many people within yogaland who do not
have any appreciation for historicity, and would prefer for a sense of
magic and wonder to reenchant their lives.'? In a recent mail, you said, " ,
my remit is to suspend judgement and disbelief, and *try* to privilege the
emic perspective." I said, "Do you think Indology centred around /rooted in
historical critical method and privileging emic perspectives that are
neither historical nor critical can go hand in hand? " Here is a sample of
that mismatch.

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Who are the target market of this Vedic Thai Yoga massage ? Why or how do
they have a respect or attraction for the label 'Vedic' ? Indians,
particularly Hindus, more particularly traditionally oriented educated
Hindus may have a pull for the 'Vedic' label. Why at all does that label
matter for any customers other than of that category? Why does that label
create magic and wonder?



On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Krishnaprasad-ji.
>
> Though the mantra does not have the word Dhanvantari, the traditional
> prologue to it establishes that it has been being taken as referring to
> Dhanvantari by tradition insiders.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Krishnaprasad G <
> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In tradition there is a practice of sacrificing for Dhanvantari with this
>> below Mantra and even Viniyoga says it's devatA is Dhanvantari
>> Please see the attachment
>>
>> अ॒यं मॆ॒ हस्तॊ॒ भग॑वान॒यं मॆ॒ भग॑वत्तरः ।
>> अ॒यं मॆ॑ वि॒श्वभॆ॑षजॊ॒ऽयं शि॒वाभि॑मर्शनः ॥ १०.६१.१२ ॥
>>
>> On 20-Sep-2017 9:13 AM, "Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY" <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Encyclopaedia of Indian Medicine: Historical perspective
>>>
>>> By Saligrama Krishna Ramachandra Rao
>>>
>>> available here
>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=QRvzRGn9QqkC&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=Dhanvantari+is+mentioned+in&source=bl&ots=qot5hB0nIl&sig=lOdfdTTdPVBLYo2BZKpM6_Uf8DE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6ieHM5bLWAhWBQo8KHWexAhoQ6AEIVTAH#v=onepage&q=Dhanvantari%20is%20mentioned%20in&f=false> to
>>> read
>>>
>>> has an entry on Dhanvantari at pages 52-54.
>>>
>>> As per this, Dhanvantari is not directly mentioned in the Vedas. The
>>> earliest mention is in Mahabharata Adi 1140.
>>>
>>> Sharing a snapshot of the relevant page.
>>>
>>> I said in an earlier post on a similar topic,
>>>
>>> "The word 'Vedic' is not always used in the sense of ' as in Vedas'.
>>> The word is quite often used in the sense of 'belonging to the lineage of
>>> the cultural/textual complex of which the Vedas are (of course, vital)
>>> part. From the insider's point of view , Vaidika is Veda- aviruddha,
>>> Veda-anuroopa, Veda-anusaari etc. not necessarily Vedochcharita/Vedas'ruta.
>>> "
>>>
>>> The references provided in the pages 52-54 of this book establish that
>>> Dhanvantari is  Vedic as per the perspective mentioned above in my words.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you mean, is Dhanvantari mentioned in the Vedas or mentioned in
>>>> Sanskrit literature that was composed later to the date of the latest hymn
>>>> of the Veda?
>>>>
>>>> The word 'Vedic' literature can mean different things in different
>>>> contexts.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:52 AM, patrick mccartney via INDOLOGY <
>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone please enlighten me as to when Dhanvantari is first
>>>>> mentioned, specifically whether this is within vedic or post-vedic
>>>>> literature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick McCartney, PhD
>>>>> Fellow
>>>>> School of Culture, History & Language
>>>>> College of the Asia-Pacific
>>>>> The Australian National University
>>>>> Canberra, Australia, 0200
>>>>>
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>>>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>>>
>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>>>>
>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>>>>
>>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
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>>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>>
>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>>
>>>
>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>>>
>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>>>
>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>>>
>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>>
>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
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>
>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
>
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>
> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>
>
>
>



-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.


BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
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