Hello Heiner,

     Can you specify what you mean by pre-Sanscritic times? Do you mean Indo-Iranian or Indo-European?

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Sun, Aug 3, 2025 at 6:26 AM Rolf Heinrich Koch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

In pre-sanscritic times saturn is called  ṣani (not śani). Today senasurā. śāni is my error.

Best 

Heiner


Am 03.08.2025 um 15:05 schrieb Asko Parpola:
Dear Heiner, Saturn is usually called śani (or śanaiścara), not śāni. Is it called śāni in Sri Lanka? The dictionaries record attributive śānaścara. Best wishes, Asko


On 3. Aug 2025, at 14.49, Rolf Heinrich Koch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

If the bird is blue coloured it may be a crow, the emblem of the planet Saturn (śāni). In Sri Lanka at each monastery you will find flags with this crow and a short prayer for śāni to counteract his influence, which is most feared by the people. 

May be you search the text for śāni or its Hindi equivalent.

Heiner

Am 03.08.2025 um 06:10 schrieb Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY:
Dear List,
 
The following folio is the first of eight with a drawing of a bird and accompanying text in Hindi. I should appreciate it if some one could identify where this manuscript comes from.
Many thanks,
Ken
 

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