It is very disappointing to see that in this new version all the names of the editors/input makers of each text have disappeared, as well as the introductions to the inputs, especially when the introductions give important explanations (of the abbreviations
used in the apparatus etc., since it is sometimes more than a "simple" input). It does not appear to me to be a fair re-use of the work made by the scholars who contributed to the original corpus. Note that the 2020-07-31
"TEI encoding by mass conversion of GRETIL's Sanskrit corpus" had already introduced many slight errors in the text-references (impossible to correct...)
Testing the case of my modest contributions to the corpus,
I would add the the examples of Pohlus ed. of the MSBh:
Same problems: disappearance of the references etc.
In the state they are displayed for the moment, it is not possible to use these inputs.
I would add that to declare something "distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License" (as it is said
for each text) when the authors of the inputs/editions are not at all mentioned, or, if it would further happen they are, in making their work corrupt or unreadable, is really problematic.
Even if to move within Github environment is not so easy (to me), at the least the work made by Claudius
Teodorescu seems to give in a faithful manner the original files like they are on GRETIL at the moment.
bw,
Christophe
Dear
Claudius,
it’s
truly encouraging to see how much effort you’ve invested! However, as merging your versions with the ones on TextGrid would constitute a content update, this is exactly the sort of work that will not happen. Perhaps consider it to be different redactions of
the same corpus. And as in both redactions at least the more recent changes are well documented, users should be in a good position to make an informed decision about which version best suits their needs.
Best
regards,
Max
Am
25/07/22 11:43, schrieb Claudius Teodorescu:
Dear David, José, and Maximilian,
Congratulations for the initiative of saving *endangered data*, as we may
call it like this, when the funding is lacking.
I would like to mention that, for the GRETIL Search Interface which I
prepared some time ago see [1], I have improved all the files in
the 1_sanskr folder, in order to make them valid XML files firstly, and
valid TEI files, secondly. A change log of the improvements can be found at
[2].
Maybe we can merge the versions of these files, in order to have a single
source of truth.
Best regards,
Claudius Teodorescu
[1] https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fclaudius-teodorescu.gitlab.io%2Fgretil-corpus-site%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758691069%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=eFkdlH%2FHoTRceyXWSys%2Fy0Yu0p4VZv1GQzSZg%2BSUn7A%3D&reserved=0
[2]
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsanskrit-texts%2Fgretil-corpus%3Ftab%3Dreadme-ov-file%23changes&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758709711%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MneoZdD6dIjcCVaXqB5iELx3oK%2BRFFSLYS4yW8kmF44%3D&reserved=0
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 at 17:01, Maximilian Mehner via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Dear list members,
in light of last week’s discussion on the sustainability of digital
projects, I would like to share some important updates - or more precisely:
final developments - regarding GRETIL.
The directors of the Göttingen State and University Library (SUB) have
been approached by the German Oriental Society (DMG), Dominik Wujastyk and
myself on multiple occasions. We all emphasised the significance of GRETIL
as a service and appealed for its continued support. Regrettably, it has
become clear that the only form of institutional backing they are willing
to provide is for the long-term preservation of the data.
Fortunately, this responsibility has been entrusted to a colleague with a
background in digital humanities, José Calvo Tello, who has a genuine
interest in enhancing the corpus. He even managed to employ a PhD student
of the Indology department, David Herting, for a couple of weeks.
The announcement we are circulating reads as follows:
Over the course of the last months we at the Göttingen State and
University Library (SUB) have been working on the migration of the the
Göttingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages (GRETIL) to a
new platform and we are now very happy to announce that GRETIL has found a
new home in the TextGrid repository:
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftextgridrep.org%2Fproject%2FTGPR-2ba9cb1b-9602-202d-71ce-67e63a29de55&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758724488%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nLm21DokjR%2BIXcwboo0MtWvVQj4JVUOQ5gdy2WiRMGw%3D&reserved=0
In its current state there are still some irregularities concerning the
rendering of certain elements, but these are being worked on. We would
nevertheless be very glad to kindly invite you to test out GRETIL in this
new environment.
Please note that from a content perspective GRETIL is regarded as a closed
project by the SUB. This means that we, unfortunately, do not have
resources to add new texts or to make philological emendations to the
existing material. Any feedback should therefore be limited to technical
errors only. If, however, you are working on specific collections of Indic
material, the SUB will be able to assist you in integrating your work into
the TextGrid repository as a new project and thus integrating it in the
same repository that contains GRETIL. You can reach out to:
José Calvo Tello, calvotello@sub.uni-goettingen.de
for your technical feedback.
The old GRETIL website is still online and will be available at least
until the end of the year. The new GRETIL in TextGrid also offers the old
cumulative ZIP file downloads in its previous form (now integrated into the
DARIAH-DE Repository).The GRETIL e-library will soon be available on the
edocs server of the Göttingen University (
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fedocs.sub.uni-goettingen.de%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758741000%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZzIcHryEhfBTDkvch%2B9PdtVHBCfkG9x4%2B%2F9ly3ZOm5I%3D&reserved=0).
In the Pali collection, we were not able to migrate the digital facsimiles
of the Pali Text Society editions due to the special layout requirements of
these texts. Please do reach out to us, if you want to work with us on this
issue.
We have presented an in depth explanation of our work and GRETIL in
TextGrid during the poster session of the DARIAH annual event in Göttingen,
on June 19, https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fannualevent.dariah.eu%2Fprogramme%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758753131%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Qqj2uDf1IUGDJjTqrOx1wlUgznJHip2I0E%2BYjMGWE%2FQ%3D&reserved=0 .
The poster can be
seen at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecords%2F15828259&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7C8fb13ff877a64296b8ef08ddc9353aa4%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C1%7C0%7C638887952758765016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yCu%2FjlZYawdKNX1SNXvCDtcHcIshp%2FVedjpTsfv%2Flzk%3D&reserved=0
We will also be presenting at the 35th Deutscher Orientalistentag DOT
2025, Erlangen, Septembre 9, 11:30-12:00, in the session on long-term
archiving of DH projects.
With this migration to TextGrid we are sincerely hoping to offer GRETIL a
sustainable and connected future, so it can continue to be useful for the
scholarly community.
Best regards,
David Herting
José Calvo Tello
Maximilian Mehner
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