I've also reviewed a fair number of submissions to MDPI's Religions. I agree with Brian Collins' observation that three-quarters of the pieces are terrible...but, I would add that about ten to fifteen percent (in my estimation) are quite good. Invariably, when I've seen these articles published (they are reviewed blindly), they are by authors/scholars with significant reputations (likely as a favor to a reputable guest editor). Indeed, I've stayed with this process largely for those authors, which, to my mind (and perhaps incorrectly), validates Religions.

Along with the high fees that journals charge authors (MDPI, but also the others mentioned in this thread), let's not forget the fees publishers charge libraries, which, I have been told, are also quite high.

And, we (contributors, peer reviewers, guest editors) are the engine that drives this. Yes...there are publishing costs in indexing, setting up type, etc. But, so much of this is now done by the authors (is there a single copy editor still in existence?). For the past decade, I have done extensive work for a reputable Berlin-based publishing house that requires me to upload my writing directly through their editorial "platform," obviously at a a tremendous savings in editorial cost to them. 

Fortunately, there are now some open access options without fees. Perhaps scholars on lists such as this can focus on reminding others of such publishing opportunities.

Herman Tull, PhD
Princeton, NJ


On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 8:18 AM Andrew Ollett via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Dear Christophe,

Like everything else in the modern world, the good and progressive idea of "open access publishing" has been turned into a corporate kāmadhēnu. This list probably needs no background on the general issues (see FOASAS), but it is totally standard for journals to charge "article processing charges" for open-access publication. I don't know what you mean by "our area of studies," but certainly journals like Indo-Iranian Journal, Journal of South Asian Intellectual History, and Philological Encounters (Brill, $2,595), Journal of Indian Philosophy (Springer, $3,2900), International Journal of Hindu Studies (Springer, $3,190), Indian Economic and Social History Review (Sage, $3,000–$4,000), and South Asia (Taylor and Francis, $3,300) do charge very high APCs for open-access publication. (They don't charge APCs for traditional articles, but as we know, the subscriptions make these APCs look cheap.) Journals published by university presses (like Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies), I believe, negotiate APCs on a per-case basis, and I don't know what the average is. According to Wikipedia, the average APC is now $1,626, which makes Religions technically on the cheaper end, and I believe that MDPI is technically a non-profit. But MDPI was classified as a "predatory publishers" by Jeffrey Beall in the past, and still today their core model involves (a) volume (they are the largest open-access publisher in the world), (b) speed (anecdotally, Religions has a faster turnaround rate than almost any other journal in our "field"), and (c) special issues. The last feature, which you also mentioned in your message, is connected with a number of intellectual and ethical issues, including (a) the relative roles, and relative amount of labor, of the journal staff (including the editors) and the organizers of the special issue in soliciting papers, organizing review and copyediting, helping the authors revise, etc. (b) the integrity and the rigor of the peer review process. 

The same, by the way, is true for monographs, where the open-access fees are generally between $12,000 and $18,000.

Now obviously I think this situation is unfortunate and wrong, and I believe (as someone on Reddit said) "friends don't let friends publish in MDPI," but this is unfortunately the way that academic publishing is developing, or rather has developed. Still, I would assume that in the case of most, if not all, of the special issues you linked to, the APCs for all of the papers were probably paid by the editor's home institution, or through a funded project. That was the case when I published in JSAIH recently. And it may be the case that the editors are able to broker some kind of deal with the publisher. (I now see that Brian Collins has refuted these naive assumptions of mine --- I was trying not to be so cynical!) 

The choices for researchers in our field, especially early-career researchers, remain pretty miserable. If you want to publish your research in a major journal, the probability approaches 100% that it will be owned by one of the "big five" corporate publishers, with huge profit margins, or alternatively, pay-to-play schemes like MDPI. There are few truly independent journals (I believe Bulletin de l'École française d'Extrême-Orient is one), and few "diamond" open-access journals, which do not charge APCs (see the FOASAS again), but which are mostly just starting out and do not have the name-recognition, selectivity, or even the indexing that researchers (and promotion committees) often look for.

Andrew

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 5:42 AM Christophe Vielle via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Dear List,

I would like to draw your attention on the following issue. Having naively expressed my interest after being invited by colleagues to contribute to a collective volume on a topic sounding to me, I was surprised to discover this new (?) type of publication promoted by the controversial MDPI/Multidisciplinary Digital Publishing Institute (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI on "Finnish downgrading" and "proliferation of special issues"). The concerned journal is "Religions", and its current or planned "Special Issues" on Indological topics, for which there are invitations to submit with a submission deadline between 1 Feb and 31 Aug 2025, are no less than 9:










The benefits of publishing in a special issue are extolled on the above pages — "All manuscripts are thoroughly refereed through a double-blind peer-review process" (led by the guest editors) and the published articles are in open access (for reading them).
However, what is less common in our area of studies, is the fact that "The Article Processing Charge (APC) for publication in this open access journal is 1800 CHF (Swiss Francs)" (= ± € 1900  or $ 1950). Such a prohibitive cost  certainly constitutes a denial of access to publication for most of the scholars in our field, especially the young ones (unless their own institutes or research fundings are willing or able to pay as much for their publications). However, in the (guest editors/publisher combined) invitation email (which is in fact optional, since the invitation to submit a proposal of paper is in the same time made to anybody on the Special Issue page), it was added that "should you have any difficulties with the fee, please let us know; given your qualifications and reputation, the journal is able to waive the fee for your submission" ("However if you are able to obtain any funding to cover either a portion or the whole of the APC…, either from your institution or other sources, this will help to support the journal" — this APC is requested at the end of the publishing process). This difference in (financial) treatment based on criteria that are devoid of objectivity is disturbing. And more fundamentally, in the case of a journal article, why pay for being published... I am not convinced by either the model or the results of these "Special Issues" (inevitably lacking of coherence), which, if they are successful according to MDPI ("Normally, a successful Special Issue consists of 10 or more papers, in addition to an editorial (optional) written by the Guest Editor(s)" https://www.mdpi.com/special_issues_guidelines — I wonder which issue of the above list will reach this goal) would mean much more expensive volumes (paid by the authors) than the collective ones provided from reputable traditional publishers (when the open access is paid by the scientific editors themselves, through institutional research funding previously got for their collaborative project).

Maybe the guest editors (who are apparently never among the paying contributors) of these special issues could tell us a bit more about the(ir?) interest (?) of this way of publishing (or attracting contributors ) and why they have decided to use it (even if they could have been misinformed about these mercantile aspects at the time they applied, or were invited, to become Guest Editor of such Special Issues, since nothing about the APC is found on the relevant MDPI pages : https://www.mdpi.com/journalproposal/sendproposalspecialissue/religions / https://www.mdpi.com/special_issues_guidelines 
On the other hand, are the Editorial Boards of the journal "Religions", no less than 3 plethoric different ones, somewhere really involved in the editorial process? https://www.mdpi.com/journal/religions/editors — probably not, which removes all scientific credit from it). 

With best wishes,

Christophe

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Louvain-la-Neuve








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