Dear All,
Indeed, as Jan pointed out, trying to avoid Sanskrit terms and concepts, usually without adequate discussion, or the creation of new terms or concepts, is an unfortunate phenomenon.
Those who are interested in an explanation on simple examples of how Paninean grammar actually works may also want to look up:
Pierre-Sylvain Filliozat, "Grammaire sanscrite pâninéenne",
Paris: Picard, 1988.
This book does not seem to be available electronically.
Grammar as a (contemporary) science (as opposed to an art -- a
tekhnè) owes much of its existence to Sanskrit. Frédérique
Ildefonse argues that the technical study of language in Greek as
a discipline emerged rather late, and without unification of its
various components -- now viewed as subdisciplines of grammar --
because the study of language was taken over by philosophy (La
naissance de la grammaire dans l'Antiquité grecque, Paris:
Vrin, 1997).
Best,
Satyanad Kichenassamy
Dear Andrew, this is a nice list of approximate equivalents or equivalents under certain conditions. The list is misleading (in both directions) if the =- signs are taken too literally. As the list is attached to an online grammar the user should be able to find out that a word ending in dvitīyā may have other functions than the 'accusative' and the 'accusative' may be expressed by other vibhaktis than the second (cp. in classical Sanskrit yaj 'sacrifice' in the sentence indram ajena yajati "to Indra he sacrifices a goat"). And the (partial) equivalence only works if 'accusative' is taken as a flat indication of a case ending, forgetting the conceptual basis of the term 'accusative'. Nor is ṣaṣṭhī simply the 'genitive', etc. (Mutatis mutandis this applies to terms such as 'optative' etc.). Among printed Sanskrit grammars for students I believe that Devavāṇīpraveśikā <https://sanskritstudio.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/review-of-devavanipravesika-by-robert-p-goldman/#:~:text=Sutherland%20Goldman%20is%20a%20typical,serve%20as%20a%20reference%20book.> by Goldman & Goldman is one of the first to give *again* Sanskrit grammatical terms for Sanskrit students at the introductory level. *again*: Historically, introductions to Sanskrit since the nineteenth century are rather characterized by gradually filtering out Sanskrit grammatical terms (compare Max Mueller's 1870 *Sanskrit grammar for beginners* with the "New and abridged edition" of Max Mueller's grammar prepared by Macdonell and published in 1886). R G Bhandarkar in his *First Book of Sanskrit* and *Second Book of Sanskrit *(from 1860s) tried to adopt "the terminology of the English Grammarians of Sanskrit" while "strictly following Panini, as explained by Bhattoji Dikshita in his Siddhantakaumudi" (unfortunately without giving a concordance of English and Sanskrit grammatical terms). Best, Jan Houben On Thu, 5 Sept 2024 at 09:28, Andrew Ollett via INDOLOGY < indology@list.indology.info> wrote:It is in no way complete/comprehensive, but I have a list here: http://prakrit.info/vrddhi/grammar/#glossary On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 3:20 AM rajam via INDOLOGY < indology@list.indology.info> wrote:I’m also interested in this endeavor. I’d like to have a Standard / most used / most needed list of Western Grammatical terms, so I can provide Tolkappiyan (tolkāppiyan) equivalents from the South for interested scholars. Thanks and regards, rajamOn Sep 3, 2024, at 9:58 PM, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:Dear list members, Have any members made a list of western grammatical terms and theirpaninian equivalents (preferably a searchable word document). Abhyankar's Dictionary of Sanskrit Grammar is good for getting the western grammatical terms, when you know the Paninian term, but I need a list going the other way , where given a western sanskrit grammatical term such as for example: "accusative, gerund, gerundive, optative" etc. etc. you can find the equivalent paninian term .Thanks, Harry Spier _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY@list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY@list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY@list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology
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