Ganeri's lecture series mentioned by Alex is available here (MP3, handouts, slides):

https://www.philosophy.ox.ac.uk/john-locke-lectures

He talked on the distinction between naive and direct realism mainly in the first lecture.

L.



On 14/06/2024 13:14, Lee Ling Ting via INDOLOGY wrote:
Dear Alex, Olena, and Matthew, 

Thank you so much for the information. 
They are all very helpful.
I will check out the articles/books mentioned. 

Alex, is there anywhere to have access to Ganeri's lecture notes or videos where I can find his discussion on the distinction between direct realism and naive realism? 


Best,
Lee Ling



On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 8:10 PM Alex Watson <alex.watson@ashoka.edu.in> wrote:
Dear Lee Ling

Did you have a definition of direct realism in mind?

If you're interested in Nyāya sources in particular, and not Mīmāṃsā sources, you could start by looking at the earliest commentaries on Nyāyasūtra 1.1.4.  The sūtra itself admits of too many interpretations to be decisive.

Thanks to Professor Łucyszyna for mentioning Watson & Kataoka (2010): it is available on my academia.edu page:
https://ashokauniversity.academia.edu/AlexWatson

By the way, Jonardon Ganeri's recent John Locke lectures distinguish, as some but not all contemporary philosophers of perception do, between direct realism and naive realism.  He argues that early Nyāya should properly be seen as naive realist, not direct realist; and that Matilal was wrong to depict it as mere direct realism.

Best
Alex

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 12:07 PM Ołena Łucyszyna via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Dear Lee Ling,
 
the nirākāra-(jñāna-)vāda (advocated by the Naiyāyikas, the Mīmāṃsakas, the Jainas, and the Vaibhāṣika Buddhists) can be called direct realism. The earliest text that formulates the nirākāra standpoint and sparks the nirākārasākāra debate is probably Śabara’s Śābarabhāṣya (to be more precise, the Vṛttikāra’s commentary cited by Śabara in Śābarabhāṣya I, 1, 5). Śabara’s commentator Kumārila Bhaṭṭa presents well-developed argumentation for the nirākāra-vāda in his Ślokavārttika (V, 4, the Śūnyavāda section). These two sources belong to Mīmāṃsā. The Nyāya source advocating the nirākāra-vāda I am familiar with is Bhaṭṭa Jayanta’s Nyāyamañjarī. For Bhaṭṭa Jayanta’s defence of the nirākāra-vāda, see
 
Kataoka, K. (2003). Critical edition of the Vijñānādvaitavāda section of Bhaṭṭa Jayanta’s Nyāyamañjarī. https://www2.lit.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~kkataoka/Kataoka/NMvijR.pdf.
Watson, A., & Kataoka, K. (2010). Bhaṭṭa Jayanta’s refutation of the Yogācāra Buddhist doctrine of Vijñānavāda: Annotated translation and analysis. South Asian Classical Studies, 5, 285–352.
 
This is one of many valuable publications I can recommend: Sinha, J. (1938). Indian realism. Kegan Paul, Trench, Trübner & Co.
 
The nirākāra-vāda can be called direct realism, but the sākāra-vāda has no correspondence in Western philosophy. The sākāra-vāda encompasses two very different theories: indirect realism (representationalism) and phenomenalism.
 
With best regards,
Olena
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Temat: [INDOLOGY] Direct Realism of Nyāya
 
Dear members of the list, 

Greetings! 
I have a question to ask. 
What are some of the earliest Nyāya sources that explicitly spell out that Naiyāyikas uphold direct realism (not just realism)? I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. 
Thank you! 

Best regards,
Lee Ling 





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