Hello,
Apologies if it's already been mentioned--the Draupadi-Satyabhama samvada in the aranyakaparvan of the Mahabharata
(III.222-224) captures in some detail the expectations of an ideal wife (first to rise, last to sleep, last to eat, doesn't stand about gossiping...).
Best,
Arti

On 2023-08-06 12:30 AM, Ulrich Timme Kragh via INDOLOGY wrote:
Dear Gaia and Indology List,
Concerning the statement that a wife should rise in the morning before her husband, etc., have a look at the book by Julia Leslie, The Perfect Wife: The Orthodox Hindu Woman according to the Strīdharmapaddhati of Tryambakayajvan (Delhi: Oxford University Press, 1989), p. 52. 

There Leslie discusses the point under the rule that "a woman should rise before her husband does" (striyā bhartṛprabodhāt pūrvam eva prabodhavyam). The author of that text, Tryambaka, attributes this rule to Yājñavalkya.

Sincerely, Timme
Dr. Hab. Ulrich Timme Kragh

From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Gaia Pintucci via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 9:41 AM
To: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] a statement about respectable women
 
Dear list members, 

I encountered the following statement: 
kulāṅganā hi caramaṃ śāyinyaḥ prathamaṃ prabodhinyaś ca bhavanti
and it was marked with an iti. 
(A variant wording has caramaśāyinyaḥ prathamāvabodhinyaś for caramaṃ śāyinyaḥ prathamaṃ prabodhinyaś.)
Unfortunately my grepping yielded no result, therefore if someone among you happens to know the source for this sentence or has a hunch of the type of source which could include a similar statement, I would be very grateful to hear from you. (I am thinking that dharmaśāstra might be the right place to search for it, but it would be nice to first narrow down the range of texts to examine.)
Beside that and regardless whether the above really is a verbatim quote or not, do any of you know more about the prescription/usage, in the ancient Indian context, that women, if they are respectable, wake up first and go to bed last?

All the best, 
Gaia Pintucci


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