>   a contrast between the "ordinary" sequence of sounds, which he says comes from Nārāyaṇa, and the sequence presented by Pāṇini, 

--- thanks for this useful distinction, Prof. Buchta. 

Panini's is a grammarian's arrangement, of course , believed to be a revelation to him as a 'flash' (revelation of ring structure of Benzene molecule to Kekule was certainly based on all his observations, data and brooding over the problem though the snake dream can be the 'flash' point. ref. Flash theory, a Gestalt theory of problem solving. ) Patanjali and Bhartrihari talk repeatedly about a grammarian's vyavahaaraashritatva , indicating their awareness of Panini's work being based on his observations, data and brooding over the problem  Shiva's damaru story can be taken as  analogous to the snake dream story. 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 5:35 PM Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:
>  but this does not mean that is has a divine origin

-- thanks for this highly discerning statement, Prof. Bronkhorst. 

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:57 PM Johannes Bronkhorst via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I also would be happy (and surprised) to see references to a divine origin of Sanskrit. It is true that Sanskrit is daivī vāk (Bhartṛhari) “divine language” or “language of the gods”, but this does not mean that is has a divine origin. In Brahmanical circles, at least since Kātyāyana and Patañjali, Sanskrit is eternal and has no origin at all.

 Johannes Bronkhorst

 


On 27 Jul 2022, at 13:36, Buchta, David via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Hi,

George Cardona has a 1990 paper, "On Attitudes Towards Language in Ancient India" that might be helpful. It was published as #15 of the Sino-Platonic Papers from the Department of Oriental Studies at UPenn. I can dig up a PDF as needed.

Best,
Dave
--
David Buchta, PhD
Senior Lecturer in Sanskrit
Department of Classics
Brown University


On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:08 AM Gruenendahl, Reinhold <gruenen@sub.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:

Dear list members,

I would be very grateful for any references to the concept of a divine origin of Sanskrit in primary and/or secondary literature.


With thanks in advance

and best wishes

Reinhold Grünendahl


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Nagaraj Paturi
 
Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.


Senior Director, IndicA
BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra
BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership
Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership
Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, 
FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education, 
Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.