Thank you, Dean. Looking at the picture again, I think you have come up with a better reading. Best,

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 7:08 AM Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

In looking more closely at the lettering based on the comments here, I'd say it almost certainly seems to be showing ātmatattvam.

The word is found in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 5.5.5 and according to this site, also in the Upanishads:

http://sanskrit.segal.net.br/en/mw?id=23512#23512

which translates it as "the true nature of the soul or of the supreme spirit S3vetUp."

Gavin Flood -- is he on this list? -- talks about it in The Concept of Mind in Hindu Tantrism which can be found as a pdf via Google.

So it seems to be a consistent representation of a tantric yantra and mantra associated with ātmatattvam.

The appeal of such a tattoo to a young seeker of Indian wisdom is clear.

Best,

Dean

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 07:05:44 PM GMT+5:30, Valerie J Roebuck via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear Colleagues

Thank you very much for all your helpful replies, which I have forwarded to Jackie Hirst. 

Most suggestions have centred round the idea that the characters were an attempt to write the mahāvākya tat tvam asi, but there is also the possibility that it is ātmatattvam, which seems closer to the lettering we have, though perhaps less likely to be known by a non-specialist. If it is the former, it seems a very good message for the young man to have left to his family. 

Again, many thanks.

Valerie J Roebuck

Manchester, UK 

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On 12 Apr 2022, at 21:19, Valerie Roebuck via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:



Dear indology list

Could you please advise Dr Jackie Hirst about the tattoo design shown in the attached picture? 

She says: ‘It is a sketch, now in the possession of a father, that was found in the effects of his son, a young man who died tragically recently, and the family are keen to know what it means. He was interested in the Upaniṣads and the Bhagavad Gītā amongst other things and frequently sketched lotuses. Would anyone be able to shed more light on this as a particular (basic indication of a) yantra and/or on the particular (mainly nāgarī) characters which do not seem to make sense as a word/words - could they be (an attempt to indicate) specific individual seed mantras? or?  If anyone has any further ideas, and how to convey them sensitively to the family, please reply to the list and/or to Jackie direct (jacqueline.hirst@manchester.ac.uk - Honorary Research Fellow South Asian Studies).  With many thanks.'

Below is a Dropbox link to the design in question. It’s shared with the permission of the family.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ic44yzw6mfp1jo1/Brett%20Holscher%20tattoo%20picture.jpg?dl=0

Valerie J Roebuck

Manchester, UK

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