I don't know what Pāṇini would have done, koroṇā/koronā, masculine or feminine.  There are exceptions to the retroflexion rules even in single words  [as क्षुभ्नादिषु च ८।४।३९. न इति वर्तते। क्षुभ्ना इत्येवम् आदिषु शब्देषु नकारस्य णकारदेशो न भवति। क्षुभ्नाति।].  In any case, importing an expression from a modern language into Sanskrit, one represents it as one hears it around.  Around me here in San Jose, I don't hear the retroflex.  But either representation is fine with me.  In early Marathi writings, the name of Mountstuart Elphinstone was written as मौन्त स्त्युवर्त एलफिन्स्तन.  In more recent Marathi writings, I see मौंट स्टुअर्ट एलफिन्स्टन, and the more Apabhramsha version was known as इष्टुर फाकडा. I write कॅलिफोर्निया.  No retroflexion there.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:43 AM Christian Ferstl <christian.ferstl@univie.ac.at> wrote:
That is, writing Sanskrit - not Hindi -  we should prefer the spelling
कोरोणा. With the nirukti kora-ūna this would denote something even less
or smaller than a bud, no?

Regarding Bhāmaha, most of us would still prefer a grammatical error to
a virus infection, I guess:

एकः प्रतिदिनं श्लोकः कोरोणां हि निवारयेत् ।
सुप्तिङन्तादिदोषे ऽपि शोधनीये ऽप्रयासतः ।
इत्युक्तमवरुद्धेन स्वगृहे कविमेदिना ॥

"A stanza a day keeps the virus away --
even if there may be a grammatical error, which can easily be
corrected."
This was said by a friend of the kavis secluded in his own house.

Just my two (and a half) cents.
Best,
Christian Ferstl


Am 30.03.2020 11:02, schrieb John Lowe via INDOLOGY:
> I don't currently have access to my books and papers, but I believe
> for Panini the only optionality or exceptions to nati all involve
> morphological boundaries - either nominal compounding, or preverb-verb
> compounding.
>
> Are there any genuine examples of exceptions/optionality of nati not
> involving a morphological boundary (parallel to the many exceptions to
> ruki, like _kusuma-_)?
>
> If we could split Korona- into something like Kora-una-, then perhaps
> we could have the optionality; but then again for Panini, the tendency
> is that compounds forming names are more disposed to nati than freely
> formed compounds, so even as a compound name we would expect the
> retroflex, I think.
>
> John
>
> -------------------------
>
> From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of
> Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
> Sent: 29 March 2020 05:22
> To: Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
> Cc: indology@list.indology.info <INDOLOGY@list.indology.info>
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Retroflexion and gender in viruses
>
> Dear Harry,
>
>      There are similar alternating usages found in Sanskrit as well
> and authorized by Panini, for example -
>
> विभाषौषधिवनस्पतिभ्यः
> ८।४।६
>
> काशिकावृत्ति - वनम्
> इत्येव। ओषधिवाचि यत्
> पूर्वपदं वनस्पतिवाचि च
> तत्स्थान्
> निमित्तादुत्तरस्य
> वननकारस्य णकार आदेशो भवति
> विभाषा। ओषधिवाचिभ्यस्
> तावत् दूर्वावणम्,
> दूर्वावनम्। मूर्वावणम्,
> मूर्वावनम्। वनस्पतिभ्यः
> शिरीषवणम्, शिरीषवनम्।
> बदरीवणम्, बदरीवनम्।
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY
> <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Mathew Kapstein: कोरोण
>> Others कोरोना
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:08 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY
>> <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> With so many mahākavi-s on this list, you will have to forgive
>>> me this silly amateurism (with Tibetan translation):
>>>
>>> कोरोणराक्षसं दृष्ट्वा
>>> रामोऽकरोच्चिन्तामेव।
>>> क्लीबमूर्खतर एष अथवा
>>> हिंसाकोविदः॥
>>>
>>>
>>
> ཀོ་རོ་ཎ་ཡི་བདུད་མཐོང་ནས།།
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> ར་མ་ཎ་ཡིས་བསམ་བློ་བྱེད།།
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> ཆེས་ཞན་བླུན་པོ་ཡིན་པའམ།།
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> གནོད་པའི་ཐབས་ལ་མཁས་པ་ངེས།།
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> Matthew Kapstein
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