Dear all,

As always, this list does not disappoint: I ask about a small puddle and immediately receive an ocean's worth of answers. Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to reply on- and off-list!

Among the off-list replies, I especially also appreciated what Suhas Mahesh sent me: 

"गोष्पदीकृत-वाराशिं मशकीकृत-राक्षसम् ।
रामायण-महामाला-रत्नं वन्दे ऽनिलात्मजम् ।।

This is a dhyāna śloka of the Ramayana, and is very well known to those within the tradition. गोष्पदीकृत-वाराशिं corresponds very well to catching the ocean in a hoof print, and I think it might be the saying that Vikram Chandra is referring to. Perhaps this phrase was used by Vikram Chandra's source (as Indian scholars often do) in the context of Panini, due to a mental association with सन्ति पाणिनिगोष्पदे."

Again thank you to all,
     Antonia

On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 21:16, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:
Probably based on the story of Agastya drinking up the ocean, there is a proverb in Telugu that means 'taking in the ocean for a sip in a palm.' 

It is used in a similar context of taking control of vast knowledge.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM Christoph Emmrich via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear Antonia,


Not Pāṇini-specific, but maybe still of interest to you is the appearance of the combination of the ocean and the cow's hoof print in the version of global warming found in Aṅguttara Nikāya IV 100–106. There, during pralaya, after the plants have died and the rivers have run dry, the ocean sinks to ever lower levels, from the depth of a yojana down to that of the amount of water found in a cow's hoof print: seyyathā pi bhikkhave saradasamaye thullaphusitake deve vassante tattha tattha gopadesu udakāni ṭhitāni honti, evam eva kho bhikkhave tattha tattha gopadamattāni mahāsamudde udakāni ṭhitāni honti (AN IV 102,6-9).

Warmly,
Christoph

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Christoph Emmrich

Associate Professor, Buddhist Studies
General Secretary, IABS

Director, Centre for South Asian Studies

at the Asian Institute, Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy

Chair, Numata Program UofT/McMaster

University of Toronto




From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: December 23, 2019 11:43:06 AM
To: Antonia Ruppel <rhododaktylos@gmail.com>
Cc: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] 'catching the ocean in a cow's hoofprint'
 
Dear Antonia,

     There is a traditional verse that says that the words used by Vyāsa were from the Ocean of Grammar composed by Mahendra.  Those jewels of words cannot be found in Pāṇini's grammar which is like a Cow's Hoofprint.  This is to say that the so-called ārṣa usages in the Purāṇas are not ungrammatical, though they may not fit the [limited] grammar of Pāṇini.

यान्युज्जहार माहेन्द्राद् व्यासो व्याकरणार्णवात् । पदरत्नानि किं तानि सन्ति पाणिनिगोष्पदे ।।

    This verse [according to secondary references] is found in Devabodha's commentary on the Mahabharata.
  
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 8:12 AM Antonia Ruppel via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Dear all,

In the BBC radio series 'Incarnations', the episode on Pāṇini is entitled 'Catching the Ocean in a Cow's Hoofprint', which it says is a description of what Pāṇini's work achieved.

Can anyone tell me what the source of this expression specifically in reference to Pāṇini is? Textual/online searches for goṣpada- have not led me very far - but maybe I've been looking for the wrong word?

(In case anyone doesn't know 'Incarnations' and wants to listen to any of the episodes: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05rptbv/episodes/downloads)

Many thanks and all the best,
     Antonia

Dr Antonia Ruppel
University of Oxford

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