This probably goes down a rabbit hole that Jessie's colleague wouldn't be interested in, but Jessie's referencing the Visuddhimagga and Matthew's referencing tales of Maudgalyayana's journeys makes me think that in Buddhist contexts at least, these experiences were typically assumed to be had with what was termed a "body made of mind" (manomaya kāya [two words] or manomayakāya [one compounded word], depending on the source). This raises the question of whether or not these experiences were literally "out-of-body". The Pāli sources I'm familiar with at least typically say the manomaya kāya is "rūpin", in other words it has form. But I suppose that might well take us into the issue of whether or not terms like "kāya" and "rūpin" connote PHYSICAL form in these contexts...

But to get back to Jessie's colleague's interests, among the many Buddhist sources that speak of such journeying to other realms by arhats, the Sanskrit ones that Matthew cited are indeed the ones that we can most reliably date as closest to the Common Era's beginnings, the specific period that this colleague is apparently focusing on.

Brad Clough

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. Johnston or Covill).

good luck!

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'études,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions
 
There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind.

) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources.

2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says:

By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body.

bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya parasharIraaveshaH


Best,

Dean

On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:


Dear list-members,

A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences
in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be
interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean
world) with that of other regions.

I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-Vāsiṣṭha
(though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very
grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent
sources.

Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide!

All best,
Jessie Pons

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Professor for the History of South Asian Religions
CERES — Centre for the Study of Religions
Käte-Hamburger-Kolleg „Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia
and Europe"
Ruhr-Universität Bochum
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