kō māṟañcaṭaiyaṟku yāṇṭu irupattu mūṉṟu avvāṇṭuThe year 23 (irupattu mūṉṟu) of King Māṟañcaṭaiyaṉ
In the following two examples the number of years is circumscribed with the help of the word etir "opposite":In the first example we have to do with ordinal numbers: nāṉku + āvatu and paṉṉiraṇṭu + ām (p. 50):
varaguṇamahārācaṟku yāṇṭu nāṉkāvataṟku etir paṉṉiraṇṭām āṇṭuIn the 12th year opposite the fourth of Varaguṇa Mahārācaṉ
In the next example cardinal numbers are used (p. 86):
kōccaṭaiyamāṟaṟku yāṇṭu 2 itaṉ etir ēḻu ivvāṇṭu:Year two 2, seven 7 opposite this of Kōccaṭaiyamāṟaṉ, this year.
„Die älteste Weise, die sich durch Beispiele aus der Saṃhitā- und Brahmaṇa-Prosa belegen läßt, ist die, daß der den Abstand bezeichnende Einer im Instrumental oder Ablativ vorausgeschickt wird, dann na "nicht" und der Zehner oder Hunderter in dem durch den Satzzusammenhang verlangten Kasus folgt, z. B. dvābhyāṃ na śatam eig. "vermöge der zwei nicht hundert" d. h. "98". Der Einer hat natürlich das Genus des den gezählten Begriff bezeichnenden Substantivs. Jedes Wort einer solchen Gruppe behält vorklassisch den Akzent. [...]
Ablativ in TS. 7, 4, 7, 3 ekasyai [Dat. st. Gen.-Abl. fem.] na pañcāśat (ratrayaḥ) "49" und in den Gruppen, die mit ekān, Sandhiform von ekāt, altem [sonst durch ekasmāt verdrängtem] Ablativ sg. mask. ntr. von eka-, gebildet sind, z. B. ŚB. 9, 2, 3, 47 tad ekān na triṃśat "29". Vereinzelt tritt dieses ekāt auch statt des Femininums ein, wodurch c) vorbereitet wird: ŚB. 6, 2, 2, 37 ekān na triṃśat "29" als Summe zweier mit femininen Substantiven benannter Posten [...]
Klassisch ist daraus mit Beschränkung auf die Eins und zwar in der Form des mask.-neutralen Ablativs die kompositionelle Form ekānna-viṃśati- (-triṃśat- usw.) oder ekādna- (gemäß I 328 § 276c) mit Betonung der ersten Silbe erwachsen P. 6, 3, 76. Der akzentuierten Prosa ist diese Univerbierung noch fremd [...]“,
etc. etc.
Altindische Grammatik. Von Jacob Wackernagel.
III. Band: Nominalflexion - Zahlwort – Pronomen. Von Albert Debrunner und Jacob Wackernagel.
Göttingen 1930, pp. 387f. Cp. also p. 582.
https://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tools/ashtadhyayi/vyakhya/6/6.3.76.htm
एकेन हेतुना विंशतिर्न भवतीत्यर्थः। एकान्नविंशतिः, एकाद्नविंशतिरिति। अनुनासिकत्वे तदभावे च रूपम्। एकोनविंशतिरित्यर्थ इति। "पर्यवस्यती"ति शेषः। एकेन ऊनेति विग्रहः। "पूर्वसदृशे"ति समासः। सा चासौ विंशतिश्च।
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 5:09 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Whitney in his grammar (section 477 b) gives this exact example "A case-form of a smaller number, genarally eka one is connect by na not with a larger number from which it is to be deducted: thus, . . . .;most often ekān (i.e. ekāt, irregular ablative for ekasmāt) na viṁśatiḥ 19· . . ."
Harry Spier .
_______________________________________________On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 7:27 PM Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
_______________________________________________Dear Dr. Paturi,
On ekānnaviṁśati = nineteen, see Pāṇini, Aṣṭādhyāyī, 6.3.76 (ekādiś caikasya cāduk).
Dear Dr. Patte,
I don't understand your passage, but rather doubt that it can be explained in the light of how the word ekānnaviṁśati is formed. Since the proper ablative of eka is ekasmāt, I don't think ekānnaviṁśati is to be analyzed in the way you imagine. (Alas I don't understand the commentaries on Aṣṭ. 6.3.76 well enough to be able to to tell how the word ekānnaviṁśati is traditionally explained.)
Best wishes,
Arlo Griffiths
From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of François Patte via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] grammar questionLe 27/07/2019 à 20:06, Nagaraj Paturi a écrit :
> Are you talking about ekōnavimśati = ēka + ūna + vimśati ? = 19
No! ekād (ablative) na viṃśati
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