Hi,


The list of particles is almost done, it just need clarifications for the works that are not highlighted in green. Please feel free to comment about the list.


Claudius

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 20:33:47 +0200
From: Birgit Kellner <birgit.kellner@oeaw.ac.at>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of
options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of
the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya
...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications,
of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax,
there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and
some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial
language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent
"Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific
particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come
across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms
??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a
list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

--
----
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Director
Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
Austrian Academy of Sciences
Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
A-1020 Vienna
Austria
Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 18:37:55 +0000
From: "Olivelle, J P" <jpo@austin.utexas.edu>
To: Birgit Kellner <birgit.kellner@oeaw.ac.at>
Cc: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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Hi Birgit:

Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.

Patrick



> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>
> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>
> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Birgit kellner
>
> --
> ----
> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
> Director
> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> Austrian Academy of Sciences
> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
> A-1020 Vienna
> Austria
> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:07:17 -0400
From: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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In addition to the two books you mentioned, one by Angot and the other
by Tubb and Boose, one might find useful Apte's Student Guide to
Sanskrit Composition, where fifty or sixty particles are treated with
brief explanations and cited examples over the lessons 21 to 28. The
particles are taken up in (Sanskrit) alphabetical order.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
> especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
> especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
> operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range
> of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions
> of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?,
> ati?aya ...).
>
> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various
> publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's
> Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and
> grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns
> of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in
> Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing
> with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but
> I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive
> inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting
> particles.
>
> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a
> list later.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Birgit kellner
>

--

Brendan S. Gillon                       email: brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca
Department of Linguistics
McGill University                       tel.:  001 514 398 4868
1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:13:26 -0400
From: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Hi Birgit:
>
> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>
>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>
>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Birgit kellner
>>
>> --
>> ----
>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>> Director
>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>> A-1020 Vienna
>> Austria
>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>>
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:28:16 +0000
From: "Tieken, H.J.H." <H.J.H.Tieken@hum.leidenuniv.nl>
To: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>, "indology@list.indology.info"
        <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
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Emeneau's article appeared in Indo-Iranian Journal IX (1969), pp. 241-68. Leendert van Daalen wrote a kind of rejoinder/addendum to this article, which, if I remember well, was published in IIJ as well. I must have it, but can't find it at the moment.

Herman Tieken
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2515 BP Den Haag
The Netherlands
00 31 (0)70 2208127
website: hermantieken.com

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The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Hi Birgit:
>
> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>
>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>
>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Birgit kellner
>>
>> --
>> ----
>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>> Director
>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>> A-1020 Vienna
>> Austria
>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:35:48 +0000
From: "Tieken, H.J.H." <H.J.H.Tieken@hum.leidenuniv.nl>
To: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>, "indology@list.indology.info"
        <indology@list.indology.info>
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How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.

Herman Tieken
Stationsweg 58
2515 BP Den Haag
The Netherlands
00 31 (0)70 2208127
website: hermantieken.com

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Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Hi Birgit:
>
> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>
>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>
>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Birgit kellner
>>
>> --
>> ----
>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>> Director
>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>> A-1020 Vienna
>> Austria
>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:40:29 -0500
From: Eric Gurevitch <ericmgurevitch@gmail.com>
To: "Tieken, H.J.H." <H.J.H.Tieken@hum.leidenuniv.nl>
Cc: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>, "indology@list.indology.info"
        <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?

I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.

All the best,
Eric

> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
> In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
>
> Herman Tieken
> Stationsweg 58
> 2515 BP Den Haag
> The Netherlands
> 00 31 (0)70 2208127
> website: hermantieken.com
>
> ________________________________________
> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info] namens Brendan via INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info]
> Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
> Aan: indology@list.indology.info
> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles
>
> The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
> khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.
>
> I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
>
> Brendan Gillon
>
>
> On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
>> Hi Birgit:
>>
>> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>>
>>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>>
>>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> Birgit kellner
>>>
>>> --
>>> ----
>>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>>> Director
>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>>> A-1020 Vienna
>>> Austria
>>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
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Dear Birgit,

Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
though not quite what you are looking for,
may be of interest in this context nevertheless.

And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.

best,
Matthew

Matthew T. Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
The University of Chicago

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Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
To: Tieken, H.J.H.
Cc: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?

I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.

All the best,
Eric

On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.

Herman Tieken
Stationsweg 58
2515 BP Den Haag
The Netherlands
00 31 (0)70 2208127
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com>

________________________________________
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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
Hi Birgit:

Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.

Patrick



On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 19:54:10 +0000
From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
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And Apte's Manual of Sanskrit Composition may also have some useful remarks

Matthew T. Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
The University of Chicago

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To: Tieken, H.J.H.; Eric Gurevitch
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Dear Birgit,

Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
though not quite what you are looking for,
may be of interest in this context nevertheless.

And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.

best,
Matthew

Matthew T. Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
The University of Chicago

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From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
To: Tieken, H.J.H.
Cc: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?

I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.

All the best,
Eric

On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.

Herman Tieken
Stationsweg 58
2515 BP Den Haag
The Netherlands
00 31 (0)70 2208127
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com>

________________________________________
Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info>] namens Brendan via INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>]
Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
Aan: indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
Hi Birgit:

Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.

Patrick



On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

--
----
Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
Director
Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
Austrian Academy of Sciences
Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
A-1020 Vienna
Austria
Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at


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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:20:29 -0700
From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh@umich.edu>
To: birgit.kellner@oeaw.ac.at
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As for traditional resources, there are sections like Nip?t?rthanir?aya in
the works of Kau??abha??a and N?ge?abha??a, and the Naiy?yikas have
produced many works on the meaning of the negative particle like na?v?da
and on the meaning of *eva *like "evak?ravic?ra."  Discussions of Paryud?sa
and prasajyaprati?edha are also useful.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]


On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:34 AM Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
> especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
> especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
> operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of
> options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of
> the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya
> ...).
>
> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications,
> of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax,
> there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and
> some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial
> language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent
> "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific
> particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come
> across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms
> ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>
> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a
> list later.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Birgit kellner
>
> --
> ----
> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
> Director
> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> Austrian Academy of Sciences
> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
> A-1020 Vienna
> Austria
> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 22:31:09 -0400
From: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
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Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3
lines of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya,
are translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".

On `eva', see the following:

Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
pp. 161 ? 175.

Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in (log-
ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde
S?dasiens:
v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.

Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In:
Studies in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.

Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies
in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.

An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various
usages found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of
Dharmak??rti's Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be
borne out in various readings I have done since then. (There are usages
which were to me, at least, unclassifiable.)

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Dear Birgit,
>
> Betty Hermann's /The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit
> Philosophical Terminology/
> though not quite what you are looking for,
> may be of interest in this context nevertheless.
>
> And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic,
> has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.
>
> best,
> Matthew
>
> Matthew T. Kapstein
> EPHE, Paris
> The University of Chicago
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of
> Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
> *To:* Tieken, H.J.H.
> *Cc:* indology@list.indology.info
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations
> of particles
> Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle
> api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?
>
> I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.
>
> All the best,
> Eric
>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY
>> <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>
>> How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:
>> ??Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?.
>> Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
>> In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my
>> previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I.
>> Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r
>> vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
>>
>> Herman Tieken
>> Stationsweg 58
>> 2515 BP Den Haag
>> The Netherlands
>> 00 31 (0)70 2208127
>> website: hermantieken.com <http://hermantieken.com>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info
>> <mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info>] namens Brendan via
>> INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info
>> <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>]
>> Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
>> Aan: indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
>> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations
>> of particles
>>
>> The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
>> khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in
>> 1969.
>>
>> I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
>>
>> Brendan Gillon
>>
>>
>> On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
>>> Hi Birgit:
>>>
>>> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by
>>> Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY
>>>> <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
>>>> especially to students on commentarial interpretations of
>>>> particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as
>>>> connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in
>>>> presentations of the range of options that are available from
>>>> vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g.
>>>> avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>>>
>>>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various
>>>> publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's
>>>> Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks
>>>> and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling
>>>> patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic
>>>> Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there
>>>> are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical
>>>> implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to
>>>> offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric
>>>> commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>>>
>>>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post
>>>> a list later.
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Birgit kellner
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ----
>>>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>>>> Director
>>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>>>> A-1020 Vienna
>>>> Austria
>>>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>>>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>>>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at
>>>>
>>>>
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>> <mailto:brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
>> Department of Linguistics
>> McGill University ??????????????????????tel.: ?001 514 398 4868
>> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield
>> Montreal, Quebec ???????????????????????fax.: ?001 514 398 7088
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:46:38 +0530
From: Krishnaprasad G <krishnaprasadah.g@gmail.com>
To: Brendan <brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
Cc: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
        particles
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Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but
it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from
Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and
author)

On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

> Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines
> of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are
> translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".
>
> On `eva', see the following:
>
> Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
> Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
> pp. 161 ? 175.
>
> Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in
> (log-
> ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde
> S?dasiens:
> v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.
>
> Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In:
> Studies in the Bud-
> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.
>
> Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in
> the Bud-
> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.
>
> An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages
> found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's
> Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various
> readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at
> least, unclassifiable.)
>
> Brendan Gillon
>
> On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
>
> Dear Birgit,
>
> Betty Hermann's *The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical
> Terminology*
> though not quite what you are looking for,
> may be of interest in this context nevertheless.
>
> And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has
> a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.
>
> best,
> Matthew
>
> Matthew T. Kapstein
> EPHE, Paris
> The University of Chicago
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info>
> <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via
> INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
> *To:* Tieken, H.J.H.
> *Cc:* indology@list.indology.info
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
> particles
>
> Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api
> entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?
>
> I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.
>
> All the best,
> Eric
>
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <
> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two
> Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32
> (2009), 33-36.
> In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous
> mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die
> vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende
> Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
>
> Herman Tieken
> Stationsweg 58
> 2515 BP Den Haag
> The Netherlands
> 00 31 (0)70 2208127
> website: hermantieken.com
>
> ________________________________________
> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info] namens Brendan via
> INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info]
> Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
> Aan: indology@list.indology.info
> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
> particles
>
> The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
> khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.
>
> I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
>
> Brendan Gillon
>
>
> On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
>
> Hi Birgit:
>
> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel
> Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <
> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
> especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
> especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
> operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of
> options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the
> metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>
> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications,
> of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there
> are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some
> efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language
> inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit
> commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and
> their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts
> to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators
> use in interpreting particles.
>
> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list
> later.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Birgit kellner
>
> --
> ----
> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
> Director
> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> Austrian Academy of Sciences
> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
> A-1020 Vienna
> Austria
> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 20:23:34 -0700
From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh@umich.edu>
To: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>,  Bharatiya Vidvat parishad
        <bvparishat@googlegroups.com>,  e-shabda-charcha-peeth
        <e-shabda-charcha-peeth@googlegroups.com>,  Jayaram Sethuraman
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna Verses
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????: ?????????:

Sweet home of Father-in-Law


??????: ??????????????????????? ??????? ?

? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???????? ???????

The love between a father-in-law and a son-in-law, bound with which they
will not leave each other, is rare in the world.


??? [?? > ???] ?? ???: ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?

?????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ???????

[However], Vishnu resides with Lakshmi [= m?] on the ocean, the home of his
father-in-law. Shiva too resides with Uma on the Himalaya mountain, the
home of his father-in-law.


???????? ????????? ? ?? [ = ???????:] ????? ?????? ?

??????? ????????? ???????? ???? ????????? ???????

Lakshmi [= m?] does not abandon the ocean and go somewhere else.  [Similarly],
Uma does not abandon the Himalaya and go somewhere else.


Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 09:09:55 +0530
From: Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com>
To: Bharatiya Vidvat parishad <bvparishat@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>,  e-shabda-charcha-peeth
        <e-shabda-charcha-peeth@googlegroups.com>,  Jayaram Sethuraman
        <sethu@stat.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] {???????????????????} Continuing my Krishna
        Verses
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Excellent haasya.

I am able to see more followers for Lakshmi and Uma of these verses
nowadays. That saamya made me laugh more.

2018-08-14 8:53 GMT+05:30 Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh@umich.edu>:

> ????: ?????????:
>
> Sweet home of Father-in-Law
>
>
> ??????: ??????????????????????? ??????? ?
>
> ? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???????? ???????
>
> The love between a father-in-law and a son-in-law, bound with which they
> will not leave each other, is rare in the world.
>
>
> ??? [?? > ???] ?? ???: ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?
>
> ?????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ???????
>
> [However], Vishnu resides with Lakshmi [= m?] on the ocean, the home of
> his father-in-law. Shiva too resides with Uma on the Himalaya mountain, the
> home of his father-in-law.
>
>
> ???????? ????????? ? ?? [ = ???????:] ????? ?????? ?
>
> ??????? ????????? ???????? ???? ????????? ???????
>
> Lakshmi [= m?] does not abandon the ocean and go somewhere else.  [Similarly],
> Uma does not abandon the Himalaya and go somewhere else.
>
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus
> Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan
> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:31:14 +0900
From: andra.kleb@gmail.com
To: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>, Birgit Kellner
        <birgit.kellner@oeaw.ac.at>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
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Back to Sanskrit sources, the Ga?aratnamahodadhi and the Ga?aratn?val? may be useful, because several grammatical ga?a-s are nothing but lists of particles.

best,
Andrey
On 14. Aug 2018, 12:18 +0900, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>, wrote:
> Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and author)
>
> > On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
> > > Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".
> > > On `eva', see the following:
> > > Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
> > > Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
> > > pp. 161 ? 175.
> > > Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in (log-
> > > ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens:
> > > v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.
> > > Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
> > > dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> > > Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> > > der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> > > Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.
> > > Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
> > > dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> > > Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> > > der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> > > Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.
> > > An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at least, unclassifiable.)
> > > Brendan Gillon
> > >
> > > On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
> > > > Dear Birgit,
> > > >
> > > > Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
> > > > though not quite what you are looking for,
> > > > may be of interest in this context nevertheless.
> > > >
> > > > And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > > > Matthew T. Kapstein
> > > > EPHE, Paris
> > > > The University of Chicago
> > > >
> > > > From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
> > > > To: Tieken, H.J.H.
> > > > Cc: indology@list.indology.info
> > > > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles
> > > >
> > > > Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?
> > > >
> > > > I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well: ??Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
> > > > > In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
> > > > >
> > > > > Herman Tieken
> > > > > Stationsweg 58
> > > > > 2515 BP Den Haag
> > > > > The Netherlands
> > > > > 00 31 (0)70 2208127
> > > > > website: hermantieken.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info] namens Brendan via INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info]
> > > > > Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
> > > > > Aan: indology@list.indology.info
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles
> > > > >
> > > > > The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
> > > > > khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brendan Gillon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Birgit:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patrick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear colleagues,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With best regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Birgit kellner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
> > > > > > > Director
> > > > > > > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> > > > > > > Austrian Academy of Sciences
> > > > > > > Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
> > > > > > > A-1020 Vienna
> > > > > > > Austria
> > > > > > > Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
> > > > > > > Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > Brendan S. Gillon ??????????????????????email: brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca
> > > > > Department of Linguistics
> > > > > McGill University ??????????????????????tel.: ?001 514 398 4868
> > > > > 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield
> > > > > Montreal, Quebec ???????????????????????fax.: ?001 514 398 7088
> > > > > H3A 1A7 ?CANADA
> > > > >
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 07:42:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oliver Fallon <opfallon@yahoo.com>
To: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>,  Birgit Kellner
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 There is:C. G. Hartman: Emphasizing and Connecting Particles in the Thirteen Principal Upanishads, Helsinki 1966
    On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 05:32:02 BST, Andrey Klebanov via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote: 

 Back to Sanskrit sources, the Ga?aratnamahodadhi and the Ga?aratn?val? may be useful, because several grammatical ga?a-s are nothing but lists of particles.?

best,
AndreyOn 14. Aug 2018, 12:18 +0900, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>, wrote:

Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and author)
On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:


Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".


On `eva', see the following:

Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
pp. 161 ? 175.

Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in (log-
ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens:
v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.

Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.


Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.


An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at least, unclassifiable.)


Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:

Dear Birgit,

Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
though not quite what you are looking for,
may be of interest in this context nevertheless.

And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.

best,
Matthew

Matthew T. Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
The University of Chicago
From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
To: Tieken, H.J.H.
Cc: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles?Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.??
I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.

All the best,Eric

On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well: ??Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.

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Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:

Hi Birgit:

Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.

Patrick




On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 10:54:41 +0200
From: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle@uclouvain.be>
To: Indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fantasy Fictions from the Bengal Renaissance
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On behalf of Sanjay Sircar, an independent scholar:

Le 11 ao?t 2018 ? 05:10, S Sircar <ssircar1@yahoo.com.au <mailto:ssircar1@yahoo.com.au>> a ?crit :

This is not re skulls in the Tantropakhyana, Tantrakhyayika and Artola's work [cf. H. Tull's post of 30-6-2017], but this ---

Two Fantasy Fictions from the Bengal Renaissance, New Delhi: OUP, 2018:

a book on the margins/intersections of folktale/folklore studies, kiddylit studies and colonial Indological cultural studies proper. 

Maybe there is a  Bengal/South Asia-involved folklorist who would be willing to review it for the Folklore Fellows, who say they will not send it out for review themselves, but will print a review if they receive one? (This seems to be an odd way of doing things, but that is what they said.)

Vol. includes, on The-Make Believe Bridegroom
The Bengal Renaissance and folktale, in this case Maerchen-Rupkatha, Kunstmaerchen, and Women?s Ritual Bratakatha Tale 
1.      Abanindranath?s immediate source
2.      Folklore, Collecting Folktales, Colonial Control and National Pride
3.      Abanindranath?s story as a form of AT (Folktale) Tale Type 459
4.      Folk-fairytale, ?Art?-fairytale; Folk nursery-rhyme used creatively in original work
5.      The ?kheer? doll of Abanindranath?s story, its origin and nature
6.      The Brahmin Witch: who is she?
7.      Shashthi tales: the crossover between ordinary folk-fairytales and women?s ritual tales
8.      Yet another contemporaneous reworked Shashthi-tale from the Tagores: Jnanadanandini Devi?s drama for children ?The Seven Champa Brothers?
9.      The particular ?Indian dress? of AT 459 in Abanindranath?s Kunstmaerchen form
10.  Specific features of this translation, and the illustrations
Appendices
i.          Motif Summary of Kheerer Putul itself (not AT 459 generally)
ii.         Indian versions of AT 459 in the order they were first published
iii.        Relevant Puranic, Mangal-Kavya and Bratakatha Material
iv.        Iranian/Palestinian versions of AT 459 in the order in which they were first published
v.         Editions of Kheerer Putul in Bengali
vi.        Bengali dramatisations of Kheerer Putul
vii.       English translations of Kheerer Putul
viii.      Translations of Kheerer Putul into Other Indian Languages
ix.        A distinct line of translation/illustration into European languages other than English
On Bhonda? Bahadur,?In the Manner of Lewis Carroll?, but a Very Different Matter
1. Dream-Convention: Entering Dream, Traversing Dreamland,and Returning from It
2. The Social World of the New Bengal Dreamland
3. The Carroll-derived inhabitants of the new Bengal wonderland
4. Gendered and Generic Adaptation: A New Male Mock-heroic Quest
5. UnCarrollean Maerchen elements
6. The Epic Quest of the Divine Hero
7. The Myth of the Goddess and the Jat?-bu?i
8. Pointers to Interpretation
9. Unfinished Stories and an Unfinished Quest: Anti-climactic, Peripheral, Unnecessary, yet Meaningful
10. A New Theme: Growing Down, a New Start
11. In Sum: Carroll and Gaganendranath
12. Specific features of the Translation
13. Before we translate him, what species of animal is Bhonda? Bahadur?
14. From nature to culture: the Asian Palm Civet ?bhonda?? in a Bengali lexical field and ?perceptual group"
15. For non-Banglaphone South Asians: the Bengali (Asian Palm Civet) ?bhonda?? or its closest approximations
16. Our bhonda? and his honorific in translated title and text
Appendices
i.        The text: editions
ii.   The supernatural and folklore figures
iii.    The musical instruments
iv.     The measures
v.       The magic lantern as a scientific instrument
vi.     The plants
vii.   Which subspecies is Bhonda? Bahadur;what do our bhonda?s look like?
viii. Gaganendranath as a painter and Bhonda? Bahadur
x.     The Variations between Versions: ?Dadabhay-er Deyala? (1926) and Bhonda? Bahadur (1956)


Editor's notice:
https://india.oup.com/product/fantasy-fictions-from-the-bengal-renaissance-9780199486755? <https://india.oup.com/product/fantasy-fictions-from-the-bengal-renaissance-9780199486755?>

Fantasy Fictions from the Bengal Renaissance
Abanindranath Tagore?s The Make-Believe Prince (Kheerer Putul) Gaganendranath Tagore?s Toddy-Cat the Bold (Bhonda? Bahadur). Translated by Sanjay Sircar.
Publication date: 29/06/2018
ISBN: 9780199486755
Paperback 372 pages
Description


Fantasy Fictions from the Bengal Renaissance presents two masterpieces of Bengali literature by Rabindranath Tagore?s nephews, Abanindranath Tagore and Gaganendranath Tagore.
The Make-Believe Prince is the delightful story of a king, his two wives, a trickster monkey, a witch, and a helper from another world who is not a ?fairy godmother?. Abanindranath deploys traditional children?s rhymes and paints exquisite word-pictures in his original rendering of a tale which has its roots in Bengali folktale materials in various genres.
Toddy-Cat the Bold sees a group of brave comrades seek help from a young boy to rescue the son of their leader from the Two-Faced Rakshasa of the forest. Here, a more numinous supernatural helper appears. Inspired by Lewis Carroll?s Alice books, it presents a comic, exciting, and mysterious journey quite unlike Carroll?s, with many traditional local touches and an unexpected ending.

About the Author
Abanindranath Tagore was a renowned Indian artist, author, and folklorist.
Gaganendranath Tagore was a famous satirical cartoonist, and a pioneer of lithography and design in India.
The two brothers are considered to be among the earliest modern artists of India. They founded the Indian Society of Oriental Art, Kolkata, India.



Table of contents


Foreword by Peter Hunt
Preface

THE MAKE-BELIEVE PRINCE (KHEERER PUTUL)

Recasting Folktale: Maerchen-Rupkatha/Women?s Ritual Bratakatha Tale Material to Buchmaerchen/Kunstmaerchen
1. The Two Queens
2. The King Plans a Sea Voyage
3. The Desires of the Younger Queen
4. The Elder Queen?s Desire
5. The King?s Illusions
6. The Land of Rubies and the Land of Gold
7. The Land of Pearls and the Land of the King?s Daughter
8. The King?s Return
9. The Younger Queen?s Welcome
10. The Arrival of the Monkey
11. The Elder Queen?s Welcome
12. The Sorrow of the Elder Queen
13. The Monkey?s Consolation
14. The Disappearance of the Monkey
15. The Monkey?s Prediction
16. The Elder Queen?s Necklace
17. The Royal Quarrel
18. The Monkey?s Complaint
19. The Hovel Renewed
20. The New Pavilion
21. The Witch
22. The Platter of Sweetmeats
23. The Monkey Physician
24. The Imaginary Princeling
25. Arranging a Betrothal
26. The Make-Believe Prince
27. The Bridegroom?s Journey
Two Nursery Rhymes
28. The Venerable Shashthi and the Aunts of Sleep
29. The Monkey?s Blackmail
More Nursery Rhymes
30. The Dreamland of Children
And Still More Nursery Rhymes
31. The Monkey?s Quest
32. The Wedding
33. Happy Ever After
Annotated Bibliography

Illustrations
The Neglected Elder Queen and Her Hovel
The King?s Voyage
The King Returns to the Younger Queen
The Elder Queen Welcomes Home the King
The Elder Queen and the Monkey
The Monkey Seeks the Reason for the Elder
Queen?s Sorrow
Shashthi and Her Cats
Shashthi and Her Cats, as the Monkey Looks On
The Elder Queen Welcomes Home Her Little Prince

TODDY-CAT THE BOLD (BHONDA? BAHADUR)

?In the Manner of Lewis Carroll?, but a Very Different Matter

1. Bhonda? Arrives: The Call to Battle
2. The Attack of the Two-Faced Rakshasa of Chutupalu
3. Farewell to Bhonda? Mahal
The Song the Army Sang
4. Mishap at Kamalapuli Railway Station, but Soldiering on to the Ancient Apothecary
5. In Front of the Mad King?s Garden, and What Happened There
6. The Blue Mountain, the Palm-Leaf Sentries, and Brother Fox
7. To the Secret Chamber
8. The Top-Knotted Old Mother
9. Sleeping?
10. ?and Waking

Appendices
About the Authors and the Translator

???????????????????
Christophe Vielle <https://uclouvain.be/en/directories/christophe.vielle>
Louvain-la-Neuve



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From: Oliver Fallon <opfallon@yahoo.com>
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 Roodbergen's translation of Mallin?tha's commentary on Kir?tarjun?ya has lots of detailed discussion of this including a very useful appendix on commentarial terminology.It is available here:Kirata Arjuniya Bharavi Mallinathas Ghantapatha Rodebergen J. A. F. Part 1 ( Cantos 1 6) Brill : nindi punj : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive


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    On Monday, 13 August 2018, 19:34:30 BST, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote: 

 Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of
options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of
the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya
...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications,
of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax,
there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and
some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial
language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent
"Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific
particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come
across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms
??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a
list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:45:20 +0530
From: Audrey Truschke <audrey.truschke@gmail.com>
To: Indology List <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] A regressive face of Indology at the World
        Sanskrit Conference
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Dear Friends and Colleagues,

This article
<https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/how-to-move-a-mountain/article24682600.ece>,
by Professor Vajpeyi, is a must-read. For many on this list, it will not be
news that Indology has entrenched problems with sexism and elitism; many in
our discipline are also soft on Hindutva. For others, some or all of these
things may be surprising.

I encourage everyone to read with an open mind, rather than with a posture
of umbrage and denial that has become all-too-common these days. As
Professor Vajpeyi describes, the reception of the public forum at the 17th
World Sanskrit Conference in Vancouver was an appalling display of
unprofessionalism, misogyny, and class privilege, a "regressive face of
Indology." My friends - We need to ask ourselves some tough questions about
what sorts of prejudices and behaviours we are tolerating and harboring in
our corner of the scholarly world. We tend to be quite good at exercising a
critical gaze when it comes to mimamsa, kavya, and so forth. I hope we can
do the same with ourselves.

All the Best,

Audrey

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Assistant Professor
Department of History
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> Il giorno 14 ago 2018, alle ore 05:16, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> ha scritto:
>
> Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and author)

The book Krishnaprasad is referring to is likely to be: Pt. V. Srivatsankacharya, Avyayako?a: A dictionary of indeclinables, The Samskrit Education Society, Madras 1971. A book that I fully recommend!

Saluti
Raffaele Torella

>
> On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
> Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".
> On `eva', see the following:
>
> Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
> Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
> pp. 161 ? 175.
>
> Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in (log-
> ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens:
> v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.
>
> Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.
> Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
> Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.
> An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at least, unclassifiable.)
> Brendan Gillon
>
> On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
>> Dear Birgit,
>>
>> Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
>> though not quite what you are looking for,
>> may be of interest in this context nevertheless.
>>
>> And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.
>>
>> best,
>> Matthew
>>
>> Matthew T. Kapstein
>> EPHE, Paris
>> The University of Chicago
>>
>> From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> <mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
>> To: Tieken, H.J.H.
>> Cc: indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles
>> 
>> Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?
>>
>> I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Eric
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
>>> In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
>>>
>>> Herman Tieken
>>> Stationsweg 58
>>> 2515 BP Den Haag
>>> The Netherlands
>>> 00 31 (0)70 2208127
>>> website: hermantieken.com <http://hermantieken.com/>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info <mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info>] namens Brendan via INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>]
>>> Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
>>> Aan: indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles
>>>
>>> The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
>>> khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.
>>>
>>> I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
>>>
>>> Brendan Gillon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
>>>> Hi Birgit:
>>>>
>>>> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,                       especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>>>>
>>>>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.
>>>>>
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Birgit kellner
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>>>> Hollandstrasse 11-13/2
>>>>> A-1020 Vienna
>>>>> Austria
>>>>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420
>>>>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410
>>>>> http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at <http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at/>
>>>>>
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>>> Brendan S. Gillon                       email: brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca <mailto:brendan.gillon@mcgill.ca>
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> McGill University                       tel.:  001 514 398 4868
>>> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield
>>> Montreal, Quebec                        fax.:  001 514 398 7088
>>> H3A 1A7  CANADA
>>>
>>> webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ <http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/>
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> Department of Linguistics
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> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:47:12 +0530
From: Samuel Wright <samuel.wright@ahduni.edu.in>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Scan of ?Bhramara-d?ta-k?vya?
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Dear Colleagues,

I?m looking for a scan of the ?Bhramara-d?ta-k?vya? by Rudra Nyayapancanana
edited by JB Chaudhuri (Calcutta, 1940).

I?d be very grateful if anyone could send one to me.

Best,
Sam

Samuel Wright
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:31:41 +0000
From: "Olivelle, J P" <jpo@austin.utexas.edu>
To: Raffaele Torella <raffaele.torella@uniroma1.it>
Cc: Krishnaprasad G <krishnaprasadah.g@gmail.com>, Indology
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I have not been able to find this in our library. Is there a legal PDF of it available?



On Aug 14, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Raffaele Torella via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:


Il giorno 14 ago 2018, alle ore 05:16, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> ha scritto:

Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and author)

The book Krishnaprasad is referring to is likely to be: Pt. V. Srivatsankacharya, Avyayako?a: A dictionary of indeclinables, The Samskrit Education Society, Madras 1971. A book that I fully recommend!

Saluti
Raffaele Torella


On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".

On `eva', see the following:

Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
pp. 161 ? 175.

Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in (log-
ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens:
v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.

Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.

Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in the Bud-
dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.

An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at least, unclassifiable.)

Brendan Gillon

On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
Dear Birgit,

Betty Hermann's The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical Terminology
though not quite what you are looking for,
may be of interest in this context nevertheless.

And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic, has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.

best,
Matthew

Matthew T. Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
The University of Chicago

________________________________
From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info><mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info><mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
To: Tieken, H.J.H.
Cc: indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?

I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.

All the best,
Eric

On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32 (2009), 33-36.
In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.

Herman Tieken
Stationsweg 58
2515 BP Den Haag
The Netherlands
00 31 (0)70 2208127
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com/>

________________________________________
Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-bounces@list.indology.info>] namens Brendan via INDOLOGY [indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>]
Verzonden: maandag 13 augustus 2018 21:13
Aan: indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>
Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of particles

The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in 1969.

I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.

Brendan Gillon


On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
Hi Birgit:

Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.

Patrick



On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles, especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).

There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications, of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators use in interpreting particles.

Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a list later.

With best regards,

Birgit kellner

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:32:09 -0600
From: "Timothy P. Lighthiser" <tlighthiser@gmail.com>
To: INDOLOGY@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
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Author: Gonda, Jan <http://www.sards.uni-halle.de/?do=author&id=7744>
Title:The use of the particle ca
Journal:V?k: Deccan College
<http://www.sards.uni-halle.de/?do=journal&id=792>
Volume:5
Year:1957
Page:1-73

hth,


t

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:31 AM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

> I have not been able to find this in our library. Is there a legal PDF of
> it available?
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Raffaele Torella via INDOLOGY <
> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>
> Il giorno 14 ago 2018, alle ore 05:16, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
> indology@list.indology.info> ha scritto:
>
> Check Dayanananda saraswati's avyaya volume (I forgot the exact title, but
> it is available on archive) and also check Avyaya Kosa Published from
> Chennai.(Right now I cannot check the exact name of the publisher and
> author)
>
>
> The book Krishnaprasad is referring to is likely to be: Pt. V.
> Srivatsankacharya, *Avyayako?a: A dictionary of indeclinables*, The
> Samskrit Education Society, Madras 1971. A book that I fully recommend!
>
> Saluti
> Raffaele Torella
>
>
> On Tue 14 Aug, 2018, 8:01 AM Brendan via INDOLOGY, <
> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Alas Bochenski's discussion (art. 53 sec. F) consists of 9 lines, 3 lines
>> of which are a schema for the three conditions of the Trairuupya, are
>> translations of eva, respectively, as "wholly", "only" and "never".
>>
>> On `eva', see the following:
>>
>> Kajiyama, Y. 1973 Three kinds of affirmation and two kinds of negation in
>> Buddhist philosophy. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens: v. 17,
>> pp. 161 ? 175.
>>
>> Gillon, Brendan and Richard Hayes 1982 The role of the particle eva in
>> (log-
>> ical) quantification in Sanskrit. Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde
>> S?dasiens:
>> v. 26, pp. 195 ? 203.
>>
>> Ganeri, Jonardon Dharmak??rti?s semantics for the particle eva. In:
>> Studies in the Bud-
>> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
>> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
>> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
>> Katsura, 1999), pp. 101?116.
>>
>> Gillon, Brendan Another look at the Sanskrit particle eva. In: Studies in
>> the Bud-
>> dhist Epistemological Tradition Proceedings of the Third International
>> Dharmak??rti Conference, Hiroshima, 11-16 November, 1997 (Verlag
>> der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, edited Shoryu
>> Katsura, 1999), pp. 117?130.
>>
>> An appendix to the last article provides a taxonomy of the various usages
>> found in the Svaarthaanumaana section up to verse 38 of Dharmak??rti's
>> Pramaa.navaarttika. I have found that taxonomy to be borne out in various
>> readings I have done since then. (There are usages which were to me, at
>> least, unclassifiable.)
>>
>> Brendan Gillon
>>
>> On 2018-08-13 03:51 PM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
>>
>> Dear Birgit,
>>
>> Betty Hermann's *The Significance of Prefixes in Sanskrit Philosophical
>> Terminology*
>> though not quite what you are looking for,
>> may be of interest in this context nevertheless.
>>
>> And, if I recall correctly, Bochenski, in his History of Formal Logic,
>> has a useful discussion of the logical use of eva.
>>
>> best,
>> Matthew
>>
>> Matthew T. Kapstein
>> EPHE, Paris
>> The University of Chicago
>>
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>> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info>
>> <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Eric Gurevitch via
>> INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> <indology@list.indology.info>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 9:40:29 PM
>> *To:* Tieken, H.J.H.
>> *Cc:* indology@list.indology.info
>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
>> particles
>>
>> Jan Gonda once published a 15 page article about the Sanskrit particle
>> api entitled "The Sanskrit Particle api.?
>>
>> I think Luther Obrock has a useful flow chart laying out its usage too.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Eric
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <
>> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> How can I forget. I myself wrote an article on kira/kiri as well:  ?Two
>> Peculiar Usages of the Particle kira/kiri in Apabhra??a?. Sambodhi 32
>> (2009), 33-36.
>> In this article I refer to Van Daalen's article mentioned in my previous
>> mail, published in IIJ XXX (1988), pp, 111-137 and to I. Ickler, Die
>> vedische Partikel kila, published in Zeitschrift f?r vergleichende
>> Sprachfirschung 90 (1976), pp. 50-86.
>>
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>> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resources for commentarial interpretations of
>> particles
>>
>> The article by Emeneau, entitled "Sanskrit syntactic particles ---
>> khalu, khila and nuunam", appeared, if I recall correctly, in JOAS in
>> 1969.
>>
>> I don't recall where Joel's article appeared.
>>
>> Brendan Gillon
>>
>>
>> On 2018-08-13 02:37 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote:
>>
>> Hi Birgit:
>>
>> Off the top of my head, there is the wonderful article on ?iva? by Joel
>> Brereton, and I think on ?khila? by Emeneau.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY <
>> indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I was wondering whether any of you know of resources to recommend
>> especially to students on commentarial interpretations of particles,
>> especially api, ca, tu, eva, which function as connectives and logical
>> operators. I am particularly interested in presentations of the range of
>> options that are available from vy?kara?a analysis, and discussions of the
>> metalanguage used (e.g. avadh?ra?a, samuccaya, sambh?van?, ati?aya ...).
>>
>> There is much material tucked away in footnotes to various publications,
>> of course, there are helpful classics like Speijer's Sanskrit Syntax, there
>> are some remarks in introductory textbooks and grammar works, and some
>> efforts were made towards compiling patterns of commentarial language
>> inTubb & Bose's "Scholastic Sanskrit" and in Angot's recent "Sanskrit
>> commentarial", and there are articles dealing with specific particles and
>> their logical implications (esp. eva), but I have not come across attempts
>> to offer more comprehensive inventories of the terms ??stric commentators
>> use in interpreting particles.
>>
>> Pointers would be much appreciated; I'll collect responses and post a
>> list later.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Birgit kellner
>>
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When traveling by train I dip into Multatuli's seven-volume Ideas (Multatuli is the pseudonym of Eduard Douwes Dekker, 1820-1887). Somewhere (at this moment I am unable to locate the passage) he quotes a French contemporary author who would have said that one should not argue with believers, as this only leads to frustration. I think Professor Vajpeyi's article is a good example of such an experience.
If you google "arguing with believers" you will find many references to the Bible and biblical studies There are many more academic fields where arguments don't hold (from my own experience, Old Tamil studies). I agree with Professor Truschke, however, that we should not give up. But what would be the best approach?
Herman

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Dear Friends and Colleagues,

This article<https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/how-to-move-a-mountain/article24682600.ece>, by Professor Vajpeyi, is a must-read. For many on this list, it will not be news that Indology has entrenched problems with sexism and elitism; many in our discipline are also soft on Hindutva. For others, some or all of these things may be surprising.

I encourage everyone to read with an open mind, rather than with a posture of umbrage and denial that has become all-too-common these days. As Professor Vajpeyi describes, the reception of the public forum at the 17th World Sanskrit Conference in Vancouver was an appalling display of unprofessionalism, misogyny, and class privilege, a "regressive face of Indology." My friends - We need to ask ourselves some tough questions about what sorts of prejudices and behaviours we are tolerating and harboring in our corner of the scholarly world. We tend to be quite good at exercising a critical gaze when it comes to mimamsa, kavya, and so forth. I hope we can do the same with ourselves.

All the Best,

Audrey

Audrey Truschke
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