> And - the cases of God showing himself to the believers in the body of a Chandala?

--- Using the word 'God' as a translation for certain words/concepts of Hinduism is not unusual and even a highly widespread tendency; so it is not particularly pointed at your usage when I said there is no God in 'Hinduism'. Translating back, this word could be somethinglike an Upanishadic paramaatman/bhagavaan/brmhan  or a puraanic Vishnu /Shiva. Though I am not able to connect which story this could be, this is a great story. Chandaala literally the one who is a dear devil professional handling activities which others can't dear to even imagine taking up, activities related to death, executing death sentences etc., As such, Chandaala being viewed as, say, Shiva himself makes a lot of sense.

If the reference is to Maneeshaapanchakam incident of Shankara, then the hagiography Shankaravijayam is depicting this as the disguise Shiva takes to bring Shankara's own theory into his anubhooti. 

Shiva passing for Chandaala is not person of one caste passing for one of another caste. It is the case of a super-caste entity or an entity beyond caste passing for a person of a caste treated badly by the hierarchically oriented people of caste system. 

If an entity beyond caste passing for a person of a certain caste is caste passing, yes, this is a case of caste passing only. 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl> wrote:

> There is no God in Hinduism. 

Thank you for this bit of instruction. 

> In any case this has nothing to do with caste passing under question here.

​It has. Plenty. Disguises in both directions. 

2018-01-21 12:47 GMT+01:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com>:

There is no God in Hinduism. 

In any case this has nothing to do with caste passing under question here.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl> wrote:

And - the cases of God showing himself to the believers in the body of a Chandala?

Artur Karp

2018-01-21 12:33 GMT+01:00 Manu Francis via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>:

Dear Nagaraj Paturi,

Yes, you are right.
Novels are also part of the query.

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2018-01-21 10:16 GMT+01:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com>:

The query was for 

"I am searching for references in Indian literature and classical texts of instances of "caste impersonation", i.e. when an individual or a group "passes" as a caste which is not their original birth group. My search includes such instances in contemporary literature" (highlighting mine)

Since the first sentence has Indian literature and classical texts , I thought 'contemporary literature' in the second sentence means contemporary literary texts such as novels. Am I right?

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Addendum: one of his publications that bears directly on the subject is:

2014. “Lal Beg Underground: the Passing of an ‘Untouchable’ God.” In Knut A. Jacobsen, Mikael Aktor and Kristina Myrvold, eds., Objects of Worship in South Asian Religions: Forms, Practices, and Meanings, pp. 143-162. New York: Routledge.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tyler Williams <tylerwwilliams@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dr. Francis,

Joel Lee at Williams College in the US has written on the phenomenon of caste 'passing' in contemporary South Asia and is also interested in historical and literary precedents. I am sure that it would be fine if Dr. Headley contacted him directly, but I would also be happy to introduce them if she prefers.

Best,

Tyler Williams

University of Chicago

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Manu Francis via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

I forward below a query on behalf my Colleague Zoé Headley.

(on her current project "Studies in Tamil Studio Archives and Society (S.T.A.R.S.)"
see e.g:
http://www.ifpindia.org/content/studies-tamil-studio-archives-and-society-stars
and
http://www.lemonde.fr/sciences/video/2018/01/19/une-autre-histoire-de-l-inde-ecrite-par-ses-photos_5244050_1650684.html)

Any help will be much appreciated.

Her query is:

"I am searching for references in Indian literature and classical texts of instances of "caste impersonation", i.e. when an individual or a group "passes" as a caste which is not their original birth group. My search includes such instances in contemporary literature"

With very best wishes.

--

Emmanuel Francis
Chargé de recherche CNRS, Centre d'étude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris)
http://ceias.ehess.fr/
http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725
http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/
Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950, Universität Hamburg)
http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html
https://cnrs.academia.edu/emmanuelfrancis

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Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )