>[... ]Meulenbeld's mere opinion (not shared by Biardeau) on Bhartṛhari's stanza.

It is neither shared by Wilhelm Rau (Bhartṛharis Vākyapadīya, 2002: 38)
when he translates:
“Die Beseitigung der Beschmutzungen, welche sich auf Körper, Rede und
Erkenntnisvermögen beziehen, findet [entsprechend] statt durch die Heilkunde,
die Grammatik und das auf den ātman bezügliche Handbuch.”

Though translating the phrase cikitsālakṣaṇādhyātmaśāstrais
in a somewhat awkward manner, it is clear that there was no reference
to any person/Patañjali for him in VP I.174.
Correctly, in my view, Rau rather emphasized the correlation
between kāyavāgbuddhi and cikitsālakṣaṇādhyātma, that is,
when Bhartṛhari expresses that each of the three modes of human existence
– the 3rd personal dimension of organic organisation (kāya), the linguistic means
of communication (vāk) in the intersubjective 2nd personal dimension, as well as
first personal (self-referential) dimension of intelligent cognition (buddhi) –
has its particular range of relevant means (elucidated in pertinent treatises) to remedy
what's improper.

HB
.

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle@uclouvain.be> wrote:
Thank you much for the copy of Meulenbeld's pages providing us with probably all the references available at the time of their writing. I would add Harimoto's brief comment in "God, Reason and Yoga" (2014)  p. 215, about the famous ("widely known among the grammarians" - and in this respect quoted  for instance in the introductory colophons of several Mahābhāṣya mss., and by various commentators, not only on the YS like Vijñānabhikṣu) stanza which is also found in the final (post-)colophons of the YVi mss.:

yogena cittasya padena vācāṃ  malaṃ śarīrasya tu vaidyakena | 

yo 'pākarot taṃ pravaraṃ munīnāṃ  patañjaliṃ prāñjalir ānato 'smi || 

This "multi-shared/"floating" stanza could be older than the statement found in the introductory stanza (5, 6 or 7) of Bhoja's commentary on the YS (which allows Bhoja to declare that he too has composed in the three fields), or the introductory stanza (3) of Cakrapāṇi's commentary on the CarakaS (quoted by Woods 1977: xix). 
Going back to Aklujkar's point  'b', it should be noted that according to Meulenbeld himself (p. 143) "Bhartṛhari's Vākyapadīya contains a verse that obviously also refers to Patañjali as a threefold authority, though without mentioning his name".
See :

kāya-vāg-buddhi-viṣayā  ye malāḥ samavasthitāḥ /
cikitsālakṣaṇādhyātma-śāstrais teṣāṃ viśuddhayaḥ // VP 1.174 //

and Biardeau 1964 (pp. 186-7) for the text (and French translation) of the old vṛtti (ad 1.146 in her edition), which also does not refer namely to Patañjali (and does not ascertain that adhyātma-śāstra means here yoga-śāstra, as it has been understood by later commentators; the "vāk-ceto-vapuṣāṃ malaḥ phaṇibhṛtāṃ bhartrā_iva yena_uddhṛtaḥ..." of Bhojadeva sounds in its beginning like an echo of Bhartṛhari's stanza, with the use of the word bhartṛ [of the serpents = Patañjali] possibly evoking in a pun also the name of the author of the VP).
Dominik's statement that Bhoja's assertion is the first clearly attested one remains nevertheless not contradicted by Meulenbeld's mere opinion (not shared by Biardeau) on Bhartṛhari's stanza.
The parallelism traced by Meulenbeld between the "multifaceted" legendary figures of Nāgārjuna and Patañjali, both "Lords of serpents", is interesting.

Best wishes,

Christophe Vielle

Le 22 mai 2017 à 11:04, Hartmut Buescher via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> a écrit :

Given the easily understandable relative – in India perhaps
even close to absolute – inaccessibility of Meulenbeld’s extremely valuable
(yet also megacostly) History of Indian Medical Literature, while the popular name
Patañjali creeps around somewhere in almost every Indologist’s mind,
it may presumably be useful to more generally share on this list
the few pertinent pages of discussion in this Mahāpaṇḍita’s magnum opus – cf. attachment.
 
Kind regards,
Hartmut Buescher

On 22 May 2017, at 08:37, Edwin F. Bryant via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:


I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I
am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing
them  (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the
Sanskrit?  If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the
terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever
ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be.

While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form
of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as
pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least
that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a
zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in  normative
iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms
bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are
mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations).  And, secondly,
are there any  Saivite references at this time  associating zeSA WITH
ziva?.

Thanks.  Edwin Bryant

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, please everyone note that there is no medical Patanjali.  There does not exist a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called Patanjali.  

If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in detail by Meulenbeld in his History of Indian Medical Literature (especially IA: 141-44, 196).  As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" lives a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc.   Most of these occurrences are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva.  But even with these "Patanjali" whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable medical treatise by an author called Patanjali.

I'm sorry to shout.  But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one.  Never has been.  Fake News!

Best,
Dominik


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On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make three points:
(a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain to Vyākaraṇa Patañjali, Yoga Patañjali or ̄ Āyurveda Patañjali.
(b) The tradition of the identity of these three Patañjalis may be older than it is usually taken to be.
(c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, I have made a case for taking the Vyākaraṇa Patañjali as a person belonging to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonardīya (<— Gonandīya) definitely applies to this Patañjali and that the epithet Goṇikā-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled.

        Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) “Pata~jali’s Mahābhāṣya as a key to happy Kashmir.” (b) “Gonardīya, Goṇikā-putra, Patañjali and Gonandīya.” (c) “Patañjali: a Kashmirian.” Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, respectively in  Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir,  (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. New Delhi: D.K. Printworld.

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