Vikalendriya, Vaikalya> ugliness>opposite if beauty is assumed to be the feature of a monkey. The words for monkey in various Indian languages are used for mild (non-profane) , sometimes even friendly or even affectionate abuse to call/tease the other person as 'ugly'.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
perhaps I have been over-hasty in assuming the identification of these terms with the specific category of hermaphrodite. Should we understand rather eunuch? In any event, what is the connection with a monkey?

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com> wrote:
The terms, perhaps I should specify, in the Skt sources are variously found as paṇḍaka and vikalendriya.

Jonathan

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Dear Jonathan,

I do not know of the hermaphrodite part, but otherwise the prophecy of the monkey will indeed be
fulfilled in Washington next week.

best regards,
Matthew

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'études,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago

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Subject: [INDOLOGY] hermaphrodite king as an evil omen

Dear Friends,

This may be something well known, but...
I am working now on a set of prophecies of the evil to beset the Buddhist community after the Buddha's death. These (they are relatively well known) are cast as dreams of King Kṛkin, who lived in the distant past, and whose dreams were interpreted by the Buddha Kāśyapa (some sources say this was his son!) as pertaining to his far future, namely, our time, more or less. Anyway, one of the dreams is that a monkey will be consecrated as king, which is interpreted to mean that a hermaphrodite will be consecrated king. I've looked (sort of, not exactly sure even how to look for this!) to see whether this is considered a sign of decline, but I've come up empty. Probably i'm just looking in the wrong place... but one of you śiṣṭas must know...?

thanks!  jonathan

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