Patrick would not have been so intrigued if he placed the issue in a broader ritual studies framework, since the tradition insider /tradition follower of a certain culture feeling compelled to perform the rituals forming part of the culture is one of the cultural universals.

Traditionalism, i.e. performing rituals with the idea/belief that they have to be and are being performed exactly the way the ancestors or the 'beginners' of the rituals performed them., is one of the defining features of a ritual.



On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh@umich.edu> wrote:
The Mīmāṃsā texts referred to by Andrew are all very late texts.  Not to discount the value of these late texts, it would be best to look at the early sources of Mīmāṃsā, namely the Sūtras of Jaimini and Śabara's Bhāṣya, with commentaries by Kumārila and Prabhākara.  The best source may be Ganganath Jha's book: Pūrvamīmāṃsā in its Sources.  Best,

Madhav Deshpande

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Ollett <andrew.ollett@gmail.com> wrote:
Patrick mentioned that scriptural commandments "were originally meant for a group of people in a different time and place," which is not the way that Mīmāṃsakas understand scriptural commandments. They consider the commandments themselves to be outside of time (and apauruṣeya, not authored by any historical person), and their addressees to be defined by open-ended criteria that cut across time and space (adhikāra). There is some discussion of how these commandments are imagined to work in the Mīmāṃsānyāyaprakāśa, already mentioned, which has been translated by Franklin Edgerton, and in James Benson's recent translation of the Mīmāṃsānyāyasaṃgraha of Mahādeva Vedāntin (Wiesbaden 2010). Maybe one place to start is the discussion of adhikāra-vidhis (in the sixth adhyāya of the Mīmāṃsā system, and section 225 ff. in Edgerton's translation).

You may also want to consult Kanchana Natarajan, The Vidhi Viveka of Maṇḍana Miśra: Understanding Vedic Injunctions (Delhi 1995).


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Patrick,

> I thought I might find some help here in locating the passages I seek. 

By mīmāmsā, if you mean the original book of the darśana on which all the books known as mīmāmsā books are composed, you do not get any passages as you sought. The book is in the form of sūtras. .

If you saw a passage as you mentioned, it must be a book interpreting or discussing the sūtras.

śāstra compelling someone to act in a certain way is a complex issue. Depending on which sampradāya a person follows, and the varṇa and āśrama to which one considers oneself belonging, feeling oneself  compelled by śāstra to follow karmakānḍa varies.

For example, a sannyāsi of advaita or a follower of certain Bhakti tradition may not feel compelled that way.

You might want to know the complexity of these details.

A list member may guide you to a publication discussing such details.

     





On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Krishnaprasad G <krishnaprasadah.g@gmail.com> wrote:

For beginners Arthasangraha is better. Especially the translation and notes by A.B Gajendragadkar and R.D Karmarmakar is very lucid and clear


On Sep 20, 2016 9:17 AM, "patrick mccartney" <psdmccartney@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends, 

I find myself intrigued by the idea that there are people today compelled to carry on the karmakāṇḑa rituals. 

I read a brief passage that alludes to the mīmāṃsā thought-world as providing textual evidence and injunctions for this practice of reenacting scriptural commandments, which were originally meant for a group of people in a different time and place. However, it only mentions mīmāṃsā and does not mention any specific author or text.

I would like to read this text but, as I know very little about mīmāṃsā I do not really know where to start. I thought I might find some help here in locating the passages I seek. 

Thank you for your help.


All the best,

Patrick McCartney, PhD
Fellow
School of Culture, History & Language
College of the Asia-Pacific
The Australian National University
Canberra, Australia, 0200


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