Are there good reasons for considering the etymology proposed in Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary as "perhaps a corrupted form of vartana" absolutely untenable?  

वेतन [L=44823] [p=0963-b]vetana, am, n. (according to Uṇādi-s. 
III. 150. fr. rt. 1. vī; perhaps a corrupted form of 
vartana)
Indo-Aryan is not my area of expertise, but I find vartana as found in "Vartana-dāna, am, n. the gift of means of subsistence or wages. — Vartana-viniyoga, as, m. appointment or assignment of means of subsistence, i. e. of salary, wages, &c. — Vartanābhāva (ºna-abhº), as, m. want of means of subsistence, destitution." is semantically similar to vetana as in "Vetana-dāna, am, n. the paying of wages, hiring. — Vetanādāna (ºna-adº), am, n. non-payment of wages."

Aren't there other examples of a > i/e in the environment of consonant clusters in Old/Middle Indo-Aryan? Isn't it common for vr̥tti to become vitti in Prakrits?

Regards,
Suresh.




On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:06 AM, Dieter Gunkel <dcgunkel@gmail.com> wrote:
You might also check 

Kim, Jeong-Soo. 2010. Untersuchungen zu altindischen Abstrakta und Adjektiven im Rigveda und Atharvaveda. Die primären a-Stämme und die ana-Bildungen. Bremen: Hempen,

which is partly dedicated to nouns suffixed with -ana-. If the author treats vetana- in the book, there should be some discussion of its morphological composition.

Best wishes, 

Dieter

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Olivelle, J P <jpo@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Actually, Mayrhofer (3: 254) says “Vielleicht doch mit Mehendale” — and given the vid etymology. The change from -d- to -t- is viewed as a NW dialectical variation. He also refers to Kuiper (ZII 8, 263f) who appears to derive it from veto with the suffix -tana, as Mr. Misra states. There appears to be no consensus among historical linguists. 

Patrick



On Aug 6, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Nityanand Misra <nmisra@gmail.com> wrote:



On 6 August 2016 at 23:56, Donald R Davis <drdj@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

M.A. Mehendale, “Some Remarks of the Language of the Original Buddhist Canon,” Bulletin of the Deccan College Research Institute, Vol. 17, No. 3 (December 1955) suggests that the etymology of Skt. vetana ‘wages’ is "vedana ‘wealth, possessions’ from /vid ‘to find, to obtain, to give, etc.’ which is known since the Rgveda” (p167).  

Would those of you with IE expertise kindly confirm this etymology, point me elsewhere, or share your thoughts on alternative etymologies?  I have not yet been able to check Mayrhofer.



Sounds dubious, for how the d of vid would change to t when followed by a vowel is beyond me. Here is the authentic traditional etymology:
 

vī gativyāptiprajanakāntyasanakhādaneṣu (DP 1048) → vīpatibhyāṃ tanan (US 3.150) → vī + tanan → halantyam (A 1.3.3), tasya lopaḥ (A 1.3.9) → vī + tana → sārvadhātukārdhadhātukayoḥ (A 7.3.84) → ve tana → vetana.


The Uṇādisūtra vīpatibhyāṃ tanan (US 3.150) ordains the suffix tanan (of which only tana remains) from the root vī gativyāptiprajanakāntyasanakhādaneṣu’ which is used in the meanings of gati (movement), vyāpti (pervading), prajana (conception), kānti (desire), asana (throwing), and khādana (eating). The rule sārvadhātukārdhadhātukayoḥ (A 7.3.84) results in the ‘vī’ → ve transformation to get ‘vetana’.


The word occurs in Amarakoṣa 2.10.38, and the various commentaries on it may be consulted. Both the Udghāṭana and Vyākhyāsudhā commentaries cite US 3.150 and explain the word as vīyate anena iti vetanam. The form vīyate is the passive (yaki, or karmaṇi) form of the root  whose active (karttari) form is veti. The meaning of vīyate anena iti vetanam, consequently, is ‘that with which [something] is obtained is vetana’. Roots with the meaning ‘to go’ also have the meaning ‘to obtain’ as per the maxim ye gatyarthāste prāptyarthāḥ.

 



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