Thank you for your contribution to this question.
I don't think the connections given in Yaska's Nirukta and elsewhere represent historical
derivations so much as ways in which words can be given additional meaning by associating
them with other words. Thus indau ramate or
indave dravati tell us something about the
character of Indra, but not about the historical origin of his name. candra is historically
connected with candate "shines", but not with
cam "drink".
Rembert Lutjeharms has kindly sent me a pdf of Jan Gonda's article "Mind and moon." In: G.
Bhattacharya (ed.), Deyadharma studies in memory of D.C. Sircar, Delhi, 1986, pp. 147-160.
Gonda doesn't offer a definitive solution, but he suggests a connection with the moon as the
way to the world of the dead, which is interesting.
With best wishes,
Dermot
On 29 Jul 2016 at 11:07, Nivedita Rout wrote:
I was too late in my response on this interesting theme, so I sent you my understanding out
my limited knowledge in this regard in offline. Sri Aurobindo's comments on the Veda is one
of the valuable guides to understand the secret meanings (aadhyaatmika) of the Veda. (Sri
Aurobindo, The Secret of the Veda).
Let us examine the names of figures by their derivations (I used here Yaska's Nirukta to find
the connection):
The word
Candra derives from the root "cam
" to drink (yaska). The other properties of
Candramaa are Shining (the root "
cand" candra.h
candate), luminious (
caaru dramati, which
is rooted from the verb "ruc" to shine).
Candrama gives long life (R.V, 10.85.19).
Soma is depicted as the mystic-wine of sacrifice
also as the Divine Felicity. Soma extract in the
Camu (the drinking bowl)
is visualized as the
Candramaa in
apsu (RV. 8.82.7-8), the waters of heaven which is connected to "
dhi"
(intellect/thought) and both are connected to Indra. This
Soma extract kept ready in the bowl
for Indra, who verily desires it and it is the favorite drink of
Indra so he is called as
Somapaa.
On the other hand,
Indra , is who takes delight in Indu,
the luminious one is the God of
Thought (manasvaan devo, RV.2.12.1). He is called
Indra for he runs for the sake of
Indu/soma (indave dravatiiti), he takes delight in Soma (indau ramate).
Indra is identified as
Indu (RV. 1.29.6) for all the qualities that is attributed to
Indu in this hymn is of
Indra.
So we have this mystic connection between
Indra , Illumined Mind/Thought principle/Divine
Mind and Soma that is
Indu/Candra.
I humbly welcome comment.
Regards,
nibedita
From: "dermot@grevatt.force9.co.uk" <dermot@grevatt.force9.co.uk>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:17 PM
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mind and moon
Can anyone explain why the mind is the microcosmic counterpart of the
moon? The
correspondence appears in Rgveda 10.90.13 and in countless passages of
the Brahmanas
and Upanisads, but it's not obvious like breath and wind.
Renou Études Védiques vol XVI p. 150 says it's a play on words. I find that
hard to accept,
because the words (candra-mas and manas) are not very similar (they are in
Latin, but the
sages didn't have access to an Indo-European comparative dictionary).
Could the connection be through soma (often linked or identified with the
moon), since the
mind is called a pavitra through which poetic insight (dhI) flows and becomes
offerings
(Gonda Vision of the Vedic Poets pp. 278-9)?
Or is it that the mind, like the moon, is constant though its content continually
changes?
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