On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:“The meaning of cannibalism is that , by consuming your enemy , you inherit his powers. In “The Story of the Grandmother” , a folk version of “Little Red Riding Hood” the girl eats his grandmother’s flesh and drinks her blood, which has an ambiguous purpose; she is accused of cannibalism, but a deeper implication is that she acquires the wisdom of the progenitrix which helps her trick the wolf/werewolf. This notion of ingesting the older often took the form of ritual meals. To eat a symbolical figure signified receiving magical power.”
----- Folktales and Fairy Tales: Traditions and Texts from around the World
By Donald Haase Ph.D., Anne E. Duggan Ph.D., pp 364-365
_______________________________________________On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:Prof. Karp,You must be aware of these words from the Bible. “You Must Eat My Flesh” I found a discussion here:There are huge number of pages discussing these biblical words.What struck me is, Jesus the Guru figure asks to eat his flesh and drink his blood.There seems to be some esoteric or mystic similarity between the two expressions.Regards,-NOn Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:---------- Forwarded message ----------_______________________________________________
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From: Dean Michael Anderson <eastwestcultural@yahoo.com>
To: Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl>
Cc: Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004@gmail.com>, indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:02:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Eating flesh of a jogi, a magician, a healerThe principle is basically the same - there is a special power in the remains of those considered to be spiritually advanced. Compare European saintly relics.Grisly, indeed.Dean
From: Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl>
To: Dean Michael Anderson <eastwestcultural@yahoo.com>
Cc: Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004@gmail.com>; indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Eating flesh of a jogi, a magician, a healer
In Śahr Safidon ki Kahani it is the guru (Dhanthar Baid, Mbh.'s Dhanvantari) who orders his disciples to cut and and eat his body - so that his healing powers would not be lost.Best, also -Artur2016-04-25 18:35 GMT+02:00 Dean Michael Anderson <eastwestcultural@yahoo.com>:The place to look would be the texts and tales of "left-handed" tantra. I'm not familiar with the older texts but I do know that in places with famous burning grounds like Varanasi and Kathmandu the families guard the bodies to prevent tantriks from eating the flesh of the deceased. I have read about this in modern stories, and talked to people who have seen it. It is certainly very much still alive in the minds of modern Indians and Nepalis.Best,Dean AndersonOn Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl> wrote:In "Śahr Safidon ki kahani" (published by Richard Temple, The Legends of the Panjab , Vol. I (No XVI,Princess Niwal Daî, As sungby twoscavengersfromBibiyâlVillagenear Ambâlâ),Bombay 1884 [Reprints: 1962, 1977] -his disciples eat flesh of their Guru, Dhanthar Baid - in order to gain his powers Is this motif found somewhere else in Indian narratives?Thanks in advance,Artur KarpWarsawPoland_______________________________________________
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