Dear Elliot,

> I need some help in understanding Walter’s mahābhārata reference.
I am travelling without access to the Crit. Ed. (full text with apparatus). I cited the nAbhuktaM passage from my article quoted and am pretty sure I had located it in the apparatus of passages not accepted as critical by the editors, numbered as MahAbhArata "13, App. 15, 2200 A 1 pr."
I am afraid it will require to consult the printed edition to (re)trace the actual wording.

Best, Walter



2015-05-27 21:31 GMT+02:00 Elliot Stern <emstern@verizon.net>:
The opening of Vyomaśiva’s commentary appears in clearer form in my article,  Padārthasaṅgrahaṭīkā of Vyomaśiva: A Partial Reconstruction of Folia 2-3a, pages 401-413 of Karin Preisendanc, editor, Expanding and Merging Horizons (Vienna, 2007).

We may doubt that devībhāgavatam is the source of the verse nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi |avaśyameva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||

Here is devībhāgavatam 9.40.72cd-74cd:

uktaṃ hi svakṛtaṃ karma bhujyatekhilabhārate || 72 ||

śubhāśubhaṃ ca yatkiñcitsvakarmaphalabhukpumān | nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi || 73 ||

avaśyameva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham | ityevamuktaṃ vede ca kṛṣṇena paramātmanā || 74 ||


devībhāgavatam 9.29.69cd reads only this half verse: nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatairapi || 69||. The reference to verse 70 appears to be an error.

Note: I have used a scan of the edition by rāmatejapāṇḍya available for download at vedpuran.net. The scan gives only the text without the title page, etc.


I need some help in understanding Walter’s mahābhārata reference.

I will upload a pdf of the CSS edition of vyomaśiva’s commentary  to archive.org in the near future. I downloaded this from DLI.


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On 26 May  2015, at 22:49, David and Nancy Reigle <dnreigle@gmail.com> wrote:

I, too, am interested in this verse on karma, and in the very old source reference for it kindly provided by Walter. For those who do not have the 1925-1930 Benares edition of the Prasastapadabhashyam that includes the Vyomavati commentary, this verse is found on p. 3 of vol. 1 of the improved edition of the Vyomavatī edited by Gaurinath Sastri (Varanasi: Sampurnanand Sanskrit Vishvavidyalaya, 1983). Gaurinath Sastri there adds in parentheses references to Devī-bhāgavata 9.29.69-70 and 40.73.

Best regards,

David Reigle
Colorado, U.S.A.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Walter Slaje <slaje@kabelmail.de> wrote:
For the full stanza,
see Vyomashiva's VyomavatI (Benares 1930) p. 20 (kha), 2;
for the first line only cp. Mahabharata 13, App. 15, 2200 A 1 pr.

Quoted (with parallels from other philosophers) in W. Slaje, "Untersuchungen zur Chronologie einiger Nyaya-Philosophen (StII 11-12 [1986]: p.254, n. 54).

Best, WS


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2015-05-26 20:24 GMT+02:00 Martin Gansten <martin.gansten@pbhome.se>:
Thanks for this similar verse, David. I'd still be very interested to hear from anyone who has seen the verses quoted by Balabhadra in any other sources than those mentioned.

Best wishes,
Martin


David and Nancy Reigle wrote:
Dear Martin,

Regarding your third verse:

nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatair api |
avaśyam eva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||

You are no doubt aware of a similar verse that is found in a number of Buddhist texts. An early source for it has recently been published, from which I here quote it:

na praṇaśyanti karmāi kalpakoṭiśatair api |
sāmagrīṃ prāpya kālaṃ ca phalanti khalu dehināṃ ||

This is from the Dhanapālakavaineyasūtra, published in A Unique Collection of Twenty Sūtras in a Sanskrit Manuscript from the Potala, editions and translation by Bhikuī Vinītā, vol. I,2, p. 692 (Sanskrit Texts from the Tibetan Autonomous Region, no. 7/2. Beijing -- Vienna: China Tibetology Publishing House, Austrian Academy of Sciences Press, 2010).

While this does not answer your question, I thought it worthwhile to cite this recently available old source for the similar Buddhist verse.

Best regards,

David Reigle
Cotopaxi, Colorado, U.S.A.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Martin Gansten <martin.gansten@pbhome.se> wrote:
Balabhadra in the early 17th century quotes several verses on the topic of niyati/daiva and karma. I have found some of these in other works but not others, and even for the ones I have found, I suspect there are earlier or more common sources. Any help with attributing the following would be much appreciated:

1. Attributed to Śaunaka:

yena tu yat prāptavyaṃ tasya vidhānaṃ sureśasacivo ’pi |
yaḥ sākṣān niyatijñaḥ so ’pi na śakyo ’nyathā kartum || iti |

2. No attribution, but found (with variants) in Pañcadaśī 156 and Mahāsubhāṣitasaṃgraha 3283:

avaśyambhāvibhāvānāṃ pratīkāro bhaved yadi |
tadā duḥkhair na bādhyeran nalarāmayudhiṣṭhirāḥ ||

3. No attribution, but apparently popular -- found (with variants) in Nāradapurāṇa 1.31.69 and 2.29.18 and Mahāsubhāṣitasaṃgraha 3292 (also quoted in Āyurvedadīpikā and Satyaśāsanaparīkṣā); the question is what would be either the earliest source or the most common/typical one in the early 1600s:

nābhuktaṃ kṣīyate karma kalpakoṭiśatair api |
avaśyam eva bhoktavyaṃ kṛtaṃ karma śubhāśubham ||

4. Attributed simply to smṛti:

hanyate durbalaṃ daivaṃ pauruṣeṇa vipaścitā

Many thanks in advance!

Martin Gansten


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