On Jan 25, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Manu Francis <manufrancis@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Rajam,

Could you please indicate the original Tamil phrase(s) you have in mind for "So say earlier authors/learned-ones"?

Thanks in advance.

With best wishes.
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2015-01-25 21:08 GMT+01:00 rajam <rajam@earthlink.net>:

"So say earlier authors/learned-ones" is a very common expression in the earliest Tamil grammatical works. In fact, it is used to distinguish between what was traditional and what was in vogue at the time of the grammatical work.

Regards,
Rajam


-----Original Message-----
>From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh@umich.edu>
>Sent: Jan 25, 2015 7:38 AM
>To: Rosane Rocher <rrocher@sas.upenn.edu>
>Cc: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>
>Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Iti praancah
>
>In the sense of "earlier authors", the word prāñcaḥ is very frequent in
>Sanskrit grammatical commentaries.
>
>Madhav Deshpande
>
>On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Rosane Rocher <rrocher@sas.upenn.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>  It does indeed mean "so say earlier authors."
>>
>> Rosane Rocher
>>
>> On 1/25/15 9:19 AM, Martin Gansten wrote:
>>
>> In a technical section of an astrological text (Balabhadra's Hāyanaratna)
>> I just came across the expression iti prāñcaḥ, which I don't recall
>> seeing before and couldn't find in Tubb and Boose's otherwise excellent Scholastic
>> Sanskrit. Am I right in thinking that it means something like 'so say
>> earlier [authors]'?
>>
>> A quick web search for the phrase returned seven hits, one of which
>> (Annambhaṭṭa's Tarksaṃgraha
>> <http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/6_sastra/3_phil/nyaya/antsdi_u.htm>)
>> does seem to contrast prāñcaḥ with navīnāḥ, in support of my conjecture;
>> but the others were inconclusive. An old blog post
>> <http://elisafreschi.blogspot.se/2008/12/longer-discussions-on-arthabhvan-in-bha.html>
>> showed that at least I'm not alone in wondering about it.
>>
>> Any clarifications or corrections would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Martin Gansten
>>
>>
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