In thinking about these difficult verses, it is always valuable to take into account Thieme's 1965 article on the IU.

From SARDS3:


Thieme, Paul
Title:Īśopaniṣad (=Vājasaneyi-saṃhitā 40) 1-14
Journal:Journal of the American Oriental Society
Volume :85
Year:1965
Page:89-99
Shelf mark:UBT: Ci I 58
Collected paper:Thieme, Paul: Kleine Schriften. Hrsg. von G. Buddruss. Wiesbaden: Steiner, 1971, Band 1: xv, 412 S.; Band 2: S. 413-815; Band 3: Hrsg. von Renate Söhnen-Thieme. Stuttgart: Steiner, 1995, ix, S. 816-1278 (Glasenapp-Stiftung 5)
Collected paper page:1, 228-238

Best,
Dominik Wujastyk



On 8 April 2014 00:41, girish jha <jhakgirish@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Monday, April 7, 2014 10:00 PM, girish jha <jhakgirish@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear  Mr Das,
I  already  read  the Sankarabhasya  on the Isavasyopanisad  and its English translation by swami Gambhirananda   [Ramakrisna  Mission].My problem is  that what the  following mantra means :
Andham tamah  pravisanti ye  asambhutim upasate.
Tato  bhuya  iva  te tamoya u sambhutyam  ratah //ISA-12//
Swami ji  translates  the view  of Sankara and writes :
Those who worship the unmanifested(prakriti) enter into blinding  darkness;  but  those who are devoted to the manifested (hiranyagarbha)  enter into  greater darkness.
Here the problem  arises  :
1,what is the import of  the worship of asambhuti-avyakrita [ unmanifest]  prakriti   and  sambhuti-     karyabrahma[ hiranyagarbha ].Hiranyagarbha is mentioned in hiranygarbha Sukta  too where it means  a huge form   of paramatma as 
Hiranyagarbhah samavartataagre bhutasya jaatah patir eka aasit.
.In  this way  hiranyagarbha  has two   meanings. what    import should be taken here as authentic?.
2.what is the system of said worships  of  avyakrita prakriti and  sambhuti ?
In haste I could not use diacritics.
Regards,
Girish K. Jha
Professor
Dept of Sanskrit
Patna University
Patna 800 005
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:36 PM, alakendu das <mailmealakendudas@rediffmail.com> wrote:


Dr.Jha.
To begin with we must know the definition of Sambhuti and Asumbhati. Asumbhati implies KARANA( the causal element) OR Prakriti,wheras Sambhuti implies KARYA. Since it's KARYA ,it is liable to be creation/production or dissolution/destruction.
Thus according to this mantra from Isa Upanishad --

If a person worships or adores asumbhati he would be entering into the darkness(i.e Andham Tama Prabishabti) of ignorance.

If a person worships or adores Sambhuti he would be entering into even more( i.e Tatu bhuo eba te tama) darkness of ignornace.

In fact this sloka implies te difference in approach betwee Karya and Karana. Too much reliance on Karya ( the other name of Vidya or Upasana of Gods) would lead to a more disastrous consequence than Karana or asumbhati, the worship of which leads us to a state of relative Moksha.( whereas worship of Sambhuti can at best help us overcome death.) This is reflectied in the very next sloka of Isa Upanishad, which says---

Vinashen Mrityum Tirtya AsunbhatimAmrtyamUshnate.

This word Vinashen implies Karya i.e Sambhuti.


Thanking You, ALAKENDU DAS.
Post-Gradute,Indology.

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