Dear Friend,
I shall try within a few days. Thanks for your interest. I gave you notice of Indian studies only under the assumption that you knew of Dumezil's contribution. May I give one friendly advice? Once you get Dumezil, you may rest assured the mythological aspect would be best treated by him. But I shall try to collect some Indian material too, as desired by you. 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Artur Karp <> wrote:
I am very grateful  to Christophe Vielle, Deepak Bhattacharya and James Hagerty for their nearly instantaneous reply to my query. I know now where to search for the "body-churning ritual" antecedents. 

James Hagerty's monograph is, happily, on hand. But, the University of Warsaw Library informs me that the 1943 Georges Dumezil's book is not available in Poland, and - that the University's JSTOR does not possess in its resources either of the journals (Journal of the Bihar Research Society, Studies in Religion) you mentioned. 

Will try to get access to the journals via my ex-students (one lives in India, the other in England). 

A question to Prof. Bhattacharya: any detailed information on U.N. Ghoshal's work re "Vena's oppression"?


Artur Karp

2014-03-20 6:27 GMT+01:00 Artur Karp <>:

Dear List, 

Bhagavata Purana has the brahmans churning at first the dead king Vena's thigh and then his arms - in order to create a new king. 

BhP_04.14.043/1 viniścityaivam ṛṣayo vipannasya mahīpateḥ
BhP_04.14.043/2 mamanthur ūruṃ tarasā tatrāsīd bāhuko naraḥ

BhP_04.15.001/1 atha tasya punar viprair aputrasya mahīpateḥ
BhP_04.15.001/2 bāhubhyāṃ mathyamānābhyāṃ mithunaṃ samapadyata

Would someone comment on the procedure involved and the meaning of that - certainly - strange ritual?

Has someone worked on the king Vena's story? Any book? Paper?


Artur Karp

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