On 22-11-2013 05:35, palaniappa@aol.com wrote:
For Śaṅkara's views on this issue, see
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe34/sbe34107.htm

Rāmānuja also essentially had the same opinion in his commentary. See
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe48/sbe48137.htm

On the other hand, what is interesting is that for Śrīvaiṣṇavas like Rāmānuja, the Śūdra saint Nammāḷvār was/is the foremost saint.

Where is such a reference by Ramanuja to Nammāḷvār in his works ? Nowhere  does he make any such reference.
It seems only much long after Ramanuja such ideas were incorporated in the propagation of SriVaishnavism.

Ganesan




Regards,
Palaniappan


-----Original Message-----
From: Artur Karp <karp@uw.edu.pl>
To: patrick mccartney <psdmccartney@gmail.com>
Cc: indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:05 am
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] molten lead in ears

Kane, HISTORY OF THE DHARMA ŚĀSTRA, VOL. II PART I, p. 82, Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Poona 1941

has this:


<<...the practice current in the times of the Vedānta-sūtras that the Śūdra is not entitled to study the Veda. 

Gaut. XII.4 went so far as to prescribe:—

‘if the śūdra intentionally listens for committing to memory the Veda, then his ears should be filled with (molten) lead and lac; if he utters the Veda, then his tongue may be cut off; if he has mastered the Veda his body should be hacked'.>>

Hoping it's of some help, 

Regards, 
 
Artur Karp