> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:40:38 +0200
> From: jean-luc.chevillard@UNIV-PARIS-DIDEROT.FR
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] senaapati
> To: INDOLOGY@liverpool.ac.uk
>
> Dear Arlo,
>
> for what it is worth,
> let me reproduce
> (as well as I can in 7-bit mode)
> one entry from the
> tamil_k kalvet.t.uc
> collakaraati
> (vol. 1)
> (dated 2002)
>
> [published by
> SANTI SADHANA,
> chennai -- 600 028]
>
> [edited by Y. Subbarayalu]
>
>
> p. 268
>
> ceen_aapati (pe) pat.aittalaivar (771)
> ippras'asti paat.in_a ceen_aapati
> (EI, xvii, 16.); (1000) kot.umpaal.uur ut.aiyaan_
> ceen_apatikal. maturaantaka vil.an;koo ...
> (SII, xvii, 509)
>
> Cheers
>
> -- Jean-Luc
>
> P.S. and or course,
> I am wondering how much that has to do with my favorite
> tolkaappiyam commentator (ceen_aavaraiyar)
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
> On 22/09/2011 08:37, Arlo Griffiths wrote:
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > Allow me to pose a question about a phenomenon that I am probably not
> > yet grasping in its full extent and complexity. I have the impression
> > that several vernacular epigraphical traditions (maybe Sanskrit
> > epigraphical traditions too) in the second millennium CE (maybe earlier
> > too) rather frequently present persons with the title senaapati as
> > protagonist, with no other title (in some regions not even royal titles)
> > coming close in terms of frequency. I have thus far seen inscriptions in
> > Old Malay, Old Cam and Tamil, of the 11th-13th centuries, where
> > senaapatis are the main actors in the events/transactions recorded.
> >
> > My question is: are we to imagine that these were all military men in a
> > literal sense? Or may we imagine a militaristic model of the state where
> > even those high functionaries who were not actually ever leading armies
> > were nevertheless awarded military titles?
> >
> > I would appreciate references to discussions of the status of senaapatis
> > in individual parts of South and Southeast Asia or --- even better ---
> > discussions transcending regional/linguistic boundaries.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Arlo Griffiths
> > EFEO/Jakarta
> >
> >