[INDOLOGY] Ancient Greek for Sanskritists
Agnes Korn
agnes.korn at cnrs.fr
Wed Aug 13 09:48:43 UTC 2025
Just to say that Mawet's Grammaire sanskrite à l'usage des étudiants
hellénistes et latinistes
is available:
https://www.peeters-leuven.be/detail.php?search_key=9789042925373 :-)
Best, Agnes
Le 09/08/2025 à 18:03, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY a écrit :
> And here is a link to it
>
> https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k57970700.image
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 18:02, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY
> <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 18:02,
> Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <<a href=>> wrote:
>> Already, Bergaigne 1884, a favourite of Louis Renou, was written with
>> the expectation that one had Greek and Latin. I see nothing
>> unfortunate about its being in French.
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 14:09, Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info <mailto:On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 14:09,
>> Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY <<a href=>> wrote:
>>> May I suggest the reading of F. Mawet's /Grammaire sanskrite à
>>> l'usage des étudiants hellénistes et latinistes/, Peeters, Louvain,
>>> 2012, which is, unhappily, in French ? Francine Mawet was my first
>>> Sanskrit teacher at the University of Brussels, before I met
>>> Pierre-Sylavin Filliozat in the early nineties. Her work was mainly
>>> a comparatist's one, which explains why she choose to compare the
>>> evolutions of Latin, Greek and Sanskrit languages.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Jean Michel Delire
>>>
>>> Le sam. 9 août 2025 à 12:13, Satyanad Kichenassamy via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> This announcement made me curious about the number of places in
>>> India
>>> where, say, ancient Greek is taught, and how it compares with
>>> the number
>>> of places in each of our respective countries where Sanskrit (or
>>> ancient
>>> Tamil, etc.) is taught. The study of (all) ancient languages is
>>> threatened everywhere.
>>>
>>> A quick search did not lead to an answer, but did yield a few
>>> things
>>> that may be of interest to the list.
>>>
>>> Here is an example: "Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi,
>>> established in 1969, has housed a Greek Chair since 1998." Also,
>>> " An
>>> annual journal entitled Yavanika [...], devoted to research in
>>> Greco-Indian studies and the exchange of ideas, is produced by
>>> the Greek
>>> Chair, which also publishes academic works and organises lectures,
>>> workshops and seminars."
>>>
>>> https://www.leventisfoundation.org/universities-institutions/greek-chair-jawaharlal-nehru-university-new-delhi
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also a Indo-Hellenic research centre in New Delhi.
>>>
>>> https://elinepa.org/inauguration-of-the-indo-hellenic-research-center-at-new-delhi/
>>>
>>>
>>> On how a British Indian student may feel excluded from Greek
>>> studies,
>>> see this paper in the Oxford Student newspaper.
>>>
>>> https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2020/07/08/fancy-an-indian-studying-greek-how-i-found-my-place-in-the-classical-tradition-as-a-british-indian/
>>>
>>>
>>> For Latin, here is a list of places that have an entrance
>>> examination
>>> for their Latin curriculum:
>>>
>>> https://www.shiksha.com/humanities-social-sciences/latin-chp
>>>
>>> I would assume Christian seminaries in India also routinely
>>> teach Latin
>>> and, in Kerala, Syriac, see this site:
>>>
>>> https://www.oasiscenter.eu/en/why-study-syriac-in-kottayam-india
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Satyanad Kichenassamy
>>>
>>> Le 09/08/2025 à 00:57, Raffaele Torella via INDOLOGY a écrit :
>>> >
>>> >> Il giorno 8 ago 2025, alle ore 20:37, Antonia Ruppel <
>>> rhododaktylos at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Raffaele,
>>> >>
>>> >> It is good to hear from someone associated with Vivarium
>>> Novum! Do you know how they are going to make use of the links
>>> between Sanskrit, Greek and Latin for their curricula? I have
>>> lots of experience with this and would be delighted to help.
>>> > I do not think that the main aim of this initiative is to
>>> create “links" between Sanskrit and Latin-Greek, but to promote
>>> the study of the classical Western languages in Indian
>>> Universities, where it has been almost non-existent until now.
>>> Then, Vivarium Novum plans to add the teaching of Sanskrit
>>> culture to that of Latin and Greek in the framework of the
>>> Campus Mondiale dell’Umanesimo. Your collaboration would be, of
>>> course, very welcome.
>>> >> But I wonder: when they go to India, will they continue the
>>> slightly unusual policies from their Italian site (young men
>>> only accepted if, among other things, they have their hair
>>> short, young women either not accepted at all, or later accepted
>>> but only if, unlike their male counterparts, they do not stay on
>>> the grounds of the Accademia)?
>>> > Let me add some comments to your remarks. About the management
>>> of annual scholarship holders, Vivarium Novum is bound to cling
>>> to the regulation of the Convitti Nazionali Italiani, which
>>> provides for the accommodation of long-term scholarship holders
>>> of different sexes in separate buildings. Of course, this
>>> old-fashioned custom does not apply to the participants in
>>> intensive courses or in the many international conferences they
>>> organise. However, in order to overcome this unpleasant
>>> limitation they are near to acquisition of the XVIII century
>>> Villa Lucidi nearby, meant for accommodation of female long-term
>>> scholarship holders. Finally, you said: “when they go to
>>> India…”. They will not go to India: Latin and Greek will be
>>> taught by young Indian scholars trained in the Academy's
>>> courses. I am in touch with one of them, perhaps the most
>>> brilliant student of recent years: he is from Nepal and has
>>> indeed a very imposing name: Anandavardhan…
>>> >
>>> > Cari saluti,
>>> > Raffaele
>>> >
>>> >> All my best,
>>> >> Antonia
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 19:04, Raffaele Torella <
>>> raffaele.torella at uniroma1.it <mailto:
>>> raffaele.torella at uniroma1.it>> wrote:
>>> >>> Dear Colleagues,
>>> >>> I should like to draw your attention to the activity of
>>> Vivarium Novum Academy ( https://www.vivariumnovum.net/en <
>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vivariumnovum.net/en&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3SRKsl-VURq20fjNp0R3np
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vivariumnovum.net/en&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3SRKsl-VURq20fjNp0R3np>>),
>>> which is probably known to some of you as the venue of the
>>> wonderful Raniero Gnoli day, held in October 2022 (
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-HaEXsVoA&t=524s
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc-HaEXsVoA&t=524s> <
>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DJc-HaEXsVoA%26t%3D524s&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3iZp1RTjtkzMqoEJniQMdj
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DJc-HaEXsVoA%26t%3D524s&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw3iZp1RTjtkzMqoEJniQMdj>>).
>>> In October 2024 it was also the seat of the Biannual Meeting of
>>> the Italian Association for Sanskrit Studies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Vivarium Novum, Campus Mondiale dell’Umanesimo, housed in
>>> the Borrominian Villa Falconieri near Frascati, promotes the
>>> study of Latin (including Medieval and Renaissance Latin) and
>>> Greek (Classical and Homeric) also as spoken languages. The
>>> President, Prof. Luigi Miraglia, with whom I am in close
>>> contact, has recently visited Nepal (for the WSC) and India in
>>> order to create Latin and Greek curricula in the Sanskrit
>>> Universities (to be extended in the near future to the major
>>> Indian Universities).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Warmest wishes,
>>> >>> Raffaele
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Il giorno 8 ago 2025, alle ore 17:41, Antonia Ruppel via
>>> INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info <mailto:
>>> indology at list.indology.info>> ha scritto:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Seth Powell already sent out the Yogic Studies course
>>> offerings for the autumn, but I wanted to take the liberty to
>>> point out a YS course that may be of particular interest to
>>> members of this list, Greek-S 101: Ancient Greek for
>>> Sanskritists, which I will teach starting September 15.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I made a short video describing the course, which you can
>>> watch here <
>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://youtu.be/XdJrcKwslck?si%253D9KRhtPi1G8-IXSRQ%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1QVr7wjr5GTpVqlU0ArD2L&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw2-qNd_Q79wO9LS5UsG1aVA
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://youtu.be/XdJrcKwslck?si%253D9KRhtPi1G8-IXSRQ%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1QVr7wjr5GTpVqlU0ArD2L&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw2-qNd_Q79wO9LS5UsG1aVA>>;
>>> but in a nutshell: if you already know Sanskrit, you have an
>>> excellent basis for getting to grips with Ancient Greek. There
>>> is an enormous amount of overlap in the forms and their usage,
>>> and the main difference between the two languages (the rather
>>> more intricate rules of syntax that Greek has) is exactly what
>>> we will be discussing in detail.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Greek-S 101 covers all Ancient Greek grammar with the help
>>> of lots of custom-made resources; in 102, we will read Plato's
>>> Apology, and in 103 either Sophocles' Antigone or Euripides'
>>> Medea, both with readers I am making for each course. You can
>>> find all information on this sequence of courses at
>>> https://www.yogicstudies.com/greek-s-101 <
>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.yogicstudies.com/greek-s-101%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1NWnxLGlNzzrGUFITTiq2z&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw0BzI87hMrDmXU5BzXSVBWf
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.yogicstudies.com/greek-s-101%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1755272552000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw1NWnxLGlNzzrGUFITTiq2z&source=gmail-imap&ust=1755283088000000&usg=AOvVaw0BzI87hMrDmXU5BzXSVBWf>>.
>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All my best,
>>> >>>> Antonia
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> PS: Our course 'Latin for Sanskritists' just ended two
>>> weeks ago; the third term was 12 weeks of reading Seneca's
>>> Letters and contrasting Hellenistic philosophies with some of
>>> the philosophical approaches that we find in ancient India.
>>> >>>>
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>>> >>> Emeritus Professor of Sanskrit
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>>> **********************************************
>>> Satyanad KICHENASSAMY
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>>> Université de Reims Champagne-Ardenne
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