From emilie.aussant at sorbonne-nouvelle.fr Fri Mar 1 09:35:34 2024 From: emilie.aussant at sorbonne-nouvelle.fr (Emilie Aussant) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 10:35:34 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Full Professor position_Paris_Archaeology and Art History of South and Southeast Asia Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Please note the following announcement (Full Professor position, Sorbonne Universit?, Paris - Archaeology and Art History of South and Southeast Asia): Mise au concours d'un poste de Professeur en Arch?ologie et Histoire de l'art de l'Asie du Sud et du Sud-Est, dans l'UFR d'histoire de l'art et d'arch?ologie de Sorbonne Universit?. Vous trouverez la fiche de poste en pi?ce jointe et ?galement ? cette adresse : https://www.galaxie.enseignementsup-recherche.gouv.fr/ensup/ListesPostesPublies/ANTEE/2024_1/0755890V/FOPC_0755890V_506.pdf Best regards, ?milie Aussant -- ?milie Aussant Professeur des Universit?s Responsable du Master ?tudes indiennes Universit? 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ISBN 978-3-86977-251-6. https://uvhw.de/studia-indologica/product/211228_08-251-61.html In addition the publisher offers the pdf for this as well for other books of the series that are sold out and are not reprinted, at a reduced price. https://uvhw.de/studia-indologica/product/211228_08-251-61.html With best wishes, Petra Kieffer-P?lz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaels at hcts.uni-heidelberg.de Sat Mar 2 10:14:57 2024 From: michaels at hcts.uni-heidelberg.de (Michaels, Prof. Dr. Axel) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2024 10:14:57 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Publications on Nepal Message-ID: <44635206-7D19-4975-8583-D54EE05BB954@hcts.uni-heidelberg.de> Dear all, I am delighted to inform you about three recent Open Access re-publications on Newar Life-cycle rituals including detailed films by Christan Bau at Heidelberg Asian Studies Publishing (HASP). The books were originally published in the Ethno-Indology Series by Harrassowitz Publ., Wiesbaden. 1. Getting Married: Hindu and Buddhist Marriage Rituals among the Newars of Bhaktapur and Patan, Nepal, by Niels Gutschow and Axel Michaels. DOI https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1318. 2. Growing Up: Hindu and Buddhist Initiation Rituals among Newar Children in Bhaktapur, Nepal, by Niels Gutschow and Axel Michaels. DOI: https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1313. 3. Handling Death: The Dynamics of Death and Ancestor Rituals Among the Newars of Bhaktapur, Nepal, by Niels Gutschow and Axel Michaels. DOI: https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1256. All there volumes that are still available in print deal with Hindu and Buddhist lifecycle rituals among the Newars in the ancient city of Bhaktapur, Nepal.They combine extensive fieldwork with the editing and translation of relevant ritual manuals. The research was carried out under the auspices of the Collaborative Research Centre ?Dynamics of Ritual.? 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So far as I can tell, the series ends at vol. 6 with Bhoja?s U??disutras and two v?ttis. Navrang, for their part, only reprinted parts 1, 2, 4, and 6 of the series. Does anyone know whether Chintamani finished the series, and if so, where I might find the last volume? Best wishes, Jonathan From hannes.fellner at univie.ac.at Mon Mar 4 15:09:37 2024 From: hannes.fellner at univie.ac.at (Hannes A. Fellner) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:09:37 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Conference & Summer School Borderlands of the Eastern Silk Road Message-ID: Dear colleagues, The Department of Linguistics of the University of Vienna together with the Austrian Academy of Sciences and the Excellence Cluster ?EurAsian Transformations?, is organizing the Conference ?Language and Culture in the Borderlands of the Eastern Silk Road? in Vienna. The Conference will be held from Wednesday, September 4, to Friday, September 6, 2024, and it will take place in the main building of the Austrian Academy of Sciences in Vienna. (After the Conference, an Early Career Researcher Workshop, organized by the Young Academy of the Austrian Academy of Sciences, will take place at the Austrian Academy of Sciences on Saturday, September 7, 2024.) *The submission of abstracts will be possible until March 31, 2024. *Following an international peer review, a notification of acceptance will be sent by April 30, 2024. *A preliminary program will be announced by May 15, 2024. The three keynote speakers are: *Carmen Meinert*, Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum *Georges-Jean Pinault*, ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes *Imre Galambos*, ???? Zhejiang University/University of Cambridge Further information regarding the organization of the conference and the details of the Call for Papers can be found on the conference website: https://viennaborderlandsconference.wordpress.com/. Furthermore, we are also organizing a Summer School dedicated to four languages (Bactrian, Tocharian, Tangut and *G?ndh?r?*) of the Eastern Silk Road. The Summer School will be held from Monday, August 19, to Friday, August 30, 2024, and it will take place at the H?rsaal 1 of the Department of Linguistics of the University of Vienna, Sensengasse 3a, 1090 Vienna. The participation at the Summer School is free of charge. 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In addition, we seek papers responsive to the Presidential Theme for the 2024 Annual Meetings: ?Violence, Nonviolence, and the Margin.? The President's theme is an opportunity to reflect upon one of the Mah?bh?rata's consuming preoccupations: violence and nonviolence. Papers might address questions of practicality and philosophy, narrative and history, ethics and aesthetics, centre and margin. We invite papers from a broad range of source materials and methodologies. The Seminar on the Mah?bh?rata and Classical Hinduism will be participating in the Online June sessions on June 25?27, 2024. We encourage you to apply, specifying whether your proposal is for the online or in-person event. Please note that AAR does not allow you to submit the same proposal for both June and November. For this and other questions about the new June meeting, check out the FAQ. All proposals must be submitted through AAR?s PAPERS system. The deadline is Friday, March 8th, 2024, 5:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. Detailed instructions are provided here; please consult them carefully for information about word count, procedures, and the limits on the number of appearances (you can only appear on the program two times in any capacity). In an effort to encourage diversity in seminar participants, those who presented papers in our 2023 meeting are unlikely to have proposals accepted for the 2024 sessions. We seek to include the best proposals we receive, whether or not they conform to the themes of the call for proposals, and we seek publication opportunities for them. Since we operate as a seminar in AAR, proposals that we accept are to be presented as completed papers and are due October 1. These papers will be circulated on our Listserv so that those interested in attending can read them before the meeting, and each paper will receive about half an hour of discussion at the meeting with the aim to offer suggestions for improving and extending the papers for possible publication. To sign up for our Listserv go to https://listserv.ohio.edu/mailman/listinfo/aar-mbh and create your own username and password. Best, Prof. Brian Collins (He/Him/His) Department Chair and Drs. Ram and Sushila Gawande Chair in Indian Religion and Philosophy Department of Classics and Religious Studies 234 Ellis Hall Ohio University Athens, Ohio 740-597-2103 (office) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jreich at pace.edu Mon Mar 4 17:01:43 2024 From: jreich at pace.edu (Reich, James David) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:01:43 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] metrical melodies Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any resources related to the history of the simple melodies that are attached to various Sanskrit and Prakrit meters. Is anything known about this? Do we know how old the melodies are, or when or how they originated, or how they have changed over the centuries? 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There is one style of recitation of verses in this meter that are part of the so called Ma?gal???aka verses recited during weddings, and a different style in other contexts. One can get a sense of this variation from recordings available on resources like the YouTube. It is not clear to me how one would go about finding traces of such variation in pre-modern periods. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:01?AM Reich, James David via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any resources related to the history > of the simple melodies that are attached to various Sanskrit and Prakrit > meters. Is anything known about this? Do we know how old the melodies are, > or when or how they originated, or how they have changed over the > centuries? Secondary material would be particularly helpful, but if there > is any primary material that would be helpful as well. Or simply if anyone > knows anything about this or has any thoughts on it, I would be very > curious. > > Thanks very much, > James Reich > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aparpola at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 17:59:16 2024 From: aparpola at gmail.com (Asko Parpola) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:59:16 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] metrical melodies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6DD6B801-0BFD-44BF-B5FC-B963740F001D@gmail.com> The S?mavedic melodies are sung on texts composed on specific Vedic metres. See Howard, Wayne, 1977. S?mavedic chant. New Haven: Yale University Press. xxv, 572 pp., 48 ill., 8 tables. Best wishes, Asko Parpola > On 4. Mar 2024, at 19.54, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > What I know from my personal experience is that the same meter is recited with slightly different melodies in different regions, and occasionally the same meter is recited differently in the same region depending upon the context. A good example of this is the meter ??rd?lavikr?dita. It is recited in the region of Maharashtra at least in two different styles in different contexts. There is one style of recitation of verses in this meter that are part of the so called Ma?gal???aka verses recited during weddings, and a different style in other contexts. One can get a sense of this variation from recordings available on resources like the YouTube. It is not clear to me how one would go about finding traces of such variation in pre-modern periods. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:01?AM Reich, James David via INDOLOGY > wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any resources related to the history of the simple melodies that are attached to various Sanskrit and Prakrit meters. Is anything known about this? Do we know how old the melodies are, or when or how they originated, or how they have changed over the centuries? Secondary material would be particularly helpful, but if there is any primary material that would be helpful as well. Or simply if anyone knows anything about this or has any thoughts on it, I would be very curious. >> >> Thanks very much, >> James Reich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattkapstein at proton.me Mon Mar 4 18:18:35 2024 From: mattkapstein at proton.me (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 18:18:35 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] metrical melodies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don?t imagine that the melodies can be definitely dated, unless approximate indications are found in the Sanskrit musicological literature. The melody to which MS Subbalakshmi famously chanted the ??????????????????????? is reputed to be very ancient. I imagine that some other chant melodies are as well.. I don?t know if the considerable ethnomusicological work on India has extended to these types of chant. I?d be interested if anyone knows of such resources. I recently read an interesting summary of work on an early form of Christian litugical chant, that argued for its predating by some five centuries, the earliest transcriptions. Matthew Matthew Kapstein, EPHE, Paris On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 18:54, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <[indology at list.indology.info](mailto:On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 18:54, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < wrote: > What I know from my personal experience is that the same meter is recited with slightly different melodies in different regions, and occasionally the same meter is recited differently in the same region depending upon the context. A good example of this is the meter ??rd?lavikr?dita. It is recited in the region of Maharashtra at least in two different styles in different contexts. There is one style of recitation of verses in this meter that are part of the so called Ma?gal???aka verses recited during weddings, and a different style in other contexts. One can get a sense of this variation from recordings available on resources like the YouTube. It is not clear to me how one would go about finding traces of such variation in pre-modern periods. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:01?AM Reich, James David via INDOLOGY wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any resources related to the history of the simple melodies that are attached to various Sanskrit and Prakrit meters. Is anything known about this? Do we know how old the melodies are, or when or how they originated, or how they have changed over the centuries? Secondary material would be particularly helpful, but if there is any primary material that would be helpful as well. Or simply if anyone knows anything about this or has any thoughts on it, I would be very curious. >> >> Thanks very much, >> James Reich >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrikant.bahulkar at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 18:25:07 2024 From: shrikant.bahulkar at gmail.com (Shrikant Bahulkar) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 23:55:07 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] metrical melodies In-Reply-To: <6DD6B801-0BFD-44BF-B5FC-B963740F001D@gmail.com> References: <6DD6B801-0BFD-44BF-B5FC-B963740F001D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. The aarcika part of the Saamaveda is a simple way of recitation and the same verse is chanted in different ways as a saman. Theses two methods also have varieties in the three existing Saakhaas of the Saamaveda. Another example is the two ways of the recitation of verses. In the Kiirtan tradition in Maharashtra, they sing the verses in a typical way based on the classical Indian music, while the same verses are recited in a simple manner taught in schools. On Mon, 4 Mar 2024, 23:30 Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY, < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > The S?mavedic melodies are sung on texts composed on specific Vedic > metres. See > > Howard, Wayne, 1977. S?mavedic chant. New Haven: Yale University Press. > xxv, 572 pp., 48 ill., 8 tables. > > > Best wishes, > > > Asko Parpola > > On 4. Mar 2024, at 19.54, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > What I know from my personal experience is that the same meter is recited > with slightly different melodies in different regions, and occasionally the > same meter is recited differently in the same region depending upon the > context. A good example of this is the meter ??rd?lavikr?dita. It is > recited in the region of Maharashtra at least in two different styles in > different contexts. There is one style of recitation of verses in this > meter that are part of the so called Ma?gal???aka verses recited during > weddings, and a different style in other contexts. One can get a sense of > this variation from recordings available on resources like the YouTube. It > is not clear to me how one would go about finding traces of such variation > in pre-modern periods. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:01?AM Reich, James David via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I'm wondering if anyone is aware of any resources related to the history >> of the simple melodies that are attached to various Sanskrit and Prakrit >> meters. Is anything known about this? Do we know how old the melodies are, >> or when or how they originated, or how they have changed over the >> centuries? Secondary material would be particularly helpful, but if >> there is any primary material that would be helpful as well. Or simply if >> anyone knows anything about this or has any thoughts on it, I would be very >> curious. >> >> Thanks very much, >> James Reich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpg at berkeley.edu Mon Mar 4 18:58:18 2024 From: rpg at berkeley.edu (Robert P. GOLDMAN) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 10:58:18 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the former members of the editorial board. Dr. R.P. Goldman William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus and Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." 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URL: From diani.d.raffaello at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 19:15:21 2024 From: diani.d.raffaello at gmail.com (Raffaello De Leon-Jones Diani) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:15:21 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?=5BCALL_FOR_PAPERS=5D_Young_Researchers?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=99_2nd_Indo-Persian_Workshop=3A_Writing_in_the_In?= =?utf-8?q?do-Persian_World?= Message-ID: *Young Researchers? 2nd Indo-Persian Workshop: Writing in the Indo-Persian World* *May 23-24th, 2024 *in *Marseille and Online* Campus La Vieille Charit?, 2 Rue de la Charit?, 13002 Marseille, France *Organised by:* Victor Baptiste (EPHE) and Raffaello De Leon-Jones Diani (EHESS) With collaboration by Inayatullah Din (EHESS) and Lingli Li (G?ttingen-EHESS) *General Presentation* Indo-Persian studies have recently received renewed attention in the field of History, Religious studies, Sociology, Gender studies, Art History and or Philology. Many pioneering books have been published in South Asia India, North America and Europe by scholars such as Muzaffar Alam, Sunil Sharma, Corinne Lef?vre, Dalpat Rajpurohit, Pankaj Jha, Francesca Orsini and many others, inspiring new works by PhD and postdoctoral students. In Europe itself, the efforts of scholars such as Fran?oise ?Nalini? Delvoye at the EPHE in Paris, Fabrizio Speziale at the EHESS in Paris and Marseille, Eva Orthmann at the Georg-August-Universit?t of G?ttingen or Stefano Pell? at the University Ca? Foscari in Venice, have accompanied a new generation of young scholars exploring different themes in Indo-Persian culture and history. The first edition of this workshop, held at the EHESS Marseille in May 2023, was meant to be a first step taken to gather some of these young scholars who, unfortunately, are still very scattered across the continent and struggle with the classical partition of areal disciplines separating ?South Asian studies? (*?tudes indiennes*) and ?Iranian studies? (*?tudes iraniennes*). The workshop was held at the Vieille Charit? campus of the EHESS in Marseille, in a port city open on the Mediterranean Sea, rich in multicultural history, that is currently turning into a new centre for Indo-Persian studies in France thanks to the efforts of Fabrizio Speziale, an endeavour to which we wish to humbly contribute. The goal of this first informal edition of the workshop was to assess the situation, allow the students and young scholars gathered to exchange on their subjects, difficulties and future perspectives and set up a program for the coming years. The scope of this workshop is international: it will be held in hybrid format, both on site and online in order for students and young scholars, located in South Asia or elsewhere, to be able to attend and participate. *Writing in the Indo-Persian world* The practice of writing is an essential one in South Asian history, one that perhaps goes back to the very first civilization found therein, the Indus Valley Civilization. Over the centuries, the technical, economic, social and the cultural shifts brought about by the inclusion of South Asia in the Persianate and Islamicate cosmopolises has had profound impact on South Asian writing. From scriptural change to material cultural evolution, from palmleaf manuscripts in *brahmi*-derived scripts to Persian texts on bound paper, the story of writing in South Asia is a pregnant one, with a lasting impact to this day. A reflection on the practice of writing in South Asia goes beyond the linguistic aspect of it all but rather brings into the light important questions such as the readership and the economy behind book exchange and production. Furthermore, when considering the Persian language, such a reflection puts to the fore an important yet often neglected fact: that South Asian readership and textual production in Persian largely outweighed the Iranian. Writing does not exist in a vacuum: manuscripts, and especially manuscripts produced for the elite, are often decorated and illustrated. A reflection on writing will therefore necessarily also cover topics such as calligraphy, illumination, bookbinding, paper-production as well as the data contained in manuscripts in and around the text, mobilizing disciplines such as palaeography, codicology, and diplomatics. We welcome contributions from Master, Doctoral and Postdoctoral researchers that deal with any topic relating to writing, reading and text production in South Asia from the perspective of History, Philology, Codicology or Art History in the period defined by Richard M. Eaton as Persianate India (1000-1750). *Paper Submission: * Abstracts are to be submitted to the following email address: raffaello.deleon-jonesdiani at ehess.fr. They should not exceed *500* words and are to be submitted by *March, 17th*. A detailed program will be coming soon. Raffaello De L?on-Jones Diani Doctorant ? l'?cole des Hautes ?tudes en Sciences Sociales (EHESS) - Centre d'?tudes Sud Asiatiques et Himalayennes (CESAH) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > >> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> Dear Respected Colleagues, >> >> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >> >> Archana >> >> -- >> "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." 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Hoping fervently that all the concerned parties will find a way to continue making available to present and future readers the almost endless riches of India's multilingual textual archive in high quality editions and translations. Yours, Ananya. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:50?PM Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication > from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an > incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges > > Archana Venkatesan ( > archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) > Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion > (2022-2024) > *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* > Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Ananya Vajpeyi* https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Matthew Kapstein Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY <[indology at list.indology.info](mailto:On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < wrote: > Dear Archana, > > The statement you have shared with us is distressing, for the turmoil it reveals behind the production of this stellar series, so important to all scholars of India and South Asia (not just pre modernists and philologists). While matters resolve themselves between the editors, the translators, the press, the university and the endowment -- amicably and constructively, it is to be hoped -- we would do well to revisit an important prospectus by the founding general editor of the MCLI, Sheldon Pollock, "What should a classical library of India be?" > > https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf > > However many volumes have been published in the past decade, they are but the tip of the iceberg. Hoping fervently that all the concerned parties will find a way to continue making available to present and future readers the almost endless riches of India's multilingual textual archive in high quality editions and translations. > > Yours, > > Ananya. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:50?PM Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY wrote: > >> Dear Respected Colleagues, >> >> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >> >> Archana >> -- >> >> "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." Jorge Luis Borges >> >> [Archana Venkatesan](https://archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu/) (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) >> Graduate Advisor, [Graduate Program in the Study of Religion](https://religionsgrad.ucdavis.edu/) (2022-2024) >> Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature >> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > -- > > Ananya Vajpeyi > https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes, Lyne Lyne Bansat-Boudon Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France ________________________________ De : INDOLOGY de la part de Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Envoy? : mardi 5 mars 2024 12:27 ? : Ananya Vajpeyi Cc : Indology List Objet : Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India Unfortunately, given recent turmoil at Harvard, I do not think that the interim provost is likely to treat this as a priority. If those concerned, as many of us are, can organize a letter -writing campaign to the provost?s office, it may at least demonstrate that the issue is not just ignored. Matthew Kapstein Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Archana, The statement you have shared with us is distressing, for the turmoil it reveals behind the production of this stellar series, so important to all scholars of India and South Asia (not just pre modernists and philologists). While matters resolve themselves between the editors, the translators, the press, the university and the endowment -- amicably and constructively, it is to be hoped -- we would do well to revisit an important prospectus by the founding general editor of the MCLI, Sheldon Pollock, "What should a classical library of India be?" https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf However many volumes have been published in the past decade, they are but the tip of the iceberg. Hoping fervently that all the concerned parties will find a way to continue making available to present and future readers the almost endless riches of India's multilingual textual archive in high quality editions and translations. Yours, Ananya. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:50?PM Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Respected Colleagues, With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. Archana -- "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." Jorge Luis Borges Archana Venkatesan (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion (2022-2024) Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4y5v4y5fIzQwvLzF8YOoLuoQoF5tmD37jFI4K6b_IW-5GY-TkJf9yUdt8cqS5P4bZDgavy9Auk] _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Ananya Vajpeyi https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can count me among the signatories. > > Best wishes, > > Lyne > > Lyne Bansat-Boudon > > Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde > > Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses > > Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > De : INDOLOGY de la part de Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY > Envoy? : mardi 5 mars 2024 12:27 > ? : Ananya Vajpeyi > Cc : Indology List > Objet : Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India > > Unfortunately, given recent turmoil at Harvard, I do not think that the interim provost is likely to treat this as a priority. If those concerned, as many of us are, can organize a letter -writing campaign to the provost?s office, it may at least demonstrate that the issue is not just ignored. > > Matthew Kapstein > > Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY <[indology at list.indology.info](mailto:On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < wrote: > >> Dear Archana, >> >> The statement you have shared with us is distressing, for the turmoil it reveals behind the production of this stellar series, so important to all scholars of India and South Asia (not just pre modernists and philologists). While matters resolve themselves between the editors, the translators, the press, the university and the endowment -- amicably and constructively, it is to be hoped -- we would do well to revisit an important prospectus by the founding general editor of the MCLI, Sheldon Pollock, "What should a classical library of India be?" >> >> https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf >> >> However many volumes have been published in the past decade, they are but the tip of the iceberg. Hoping fervently that all the concerned parties will find a way to continue making available to present and future readers the almost endless riches of India's multilingual textual archive in high quality editions and translations. >> >> Yours, >> >> Ananya. >> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:50?PM Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >>> Dear Respected Colleagues, >>> >>> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >>> >>> Archana >>> -- >>> >>> "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." Jorge Luis Borges >>> >>> [Archana Venkatesan](https://archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu/) (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) >>> Graduate Advisor, [Graduate Program in the Study of Religion](https://religionsgrad.ucdavis.edu/) (2022-2024) >>> Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature >>> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> -- >> >> Ananya Vajpeyi >> https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Inferno 3.31-39) On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:32?PM Lyne Bansat-Boudon via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Matthew, > > This an excellent initiative. You can count me among the signatories. > > Best wishes, > > Lyne > > Lyne Bansat-Boudon > > Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde > > Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses > > Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France > ------------------------------ > *De :* INDOLOGY de la part de > Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY > *Envoy? :* mardi 5 mars 2024 12:27 > *? :* Ananya Vajpeyi > *Cc :* Indology List > *Objet :* Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library > of India > > Unfortunately, given recent turmoil at Harvard, I do not think that the > interim provost is likely to treat this as a priority. If those concerned, > as many of us are, can organize a letter -writing campaign to the provost?s > office, it may at least demonstrate that the issue is not just ignored. > > Matthew Kapstein > > Sent from Proton Mail > > for iOS > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:14, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info > > > wrote: > > Dear Archana, > > The statement you have shared with us is distressing, for the turmoil it > reveals behind the production of this stellar series, so important to all > scholars of India and South Asia (not just pre modernists and > philologists). While matters resolve themselves between the editors, the > translators, the press, the university and the endowment -- amicably and > constructively, it is to be hoped -- we would do well to revisit an > important prospectus by the founding general editor of the MCLI, Sheldon > Pollock, "What should a classical library of India be?" > > https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf > > > However many volumes have been published in the past decade, they are but > the tip of the iceberg. Hoping fervently that all the concerned parties > will find a way to continue making available to present and future readers > the almost endless riches of India's multilingual textual archive in high > quality editions and translations. > > Yours, > > Ananya. > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:50?PM Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication > from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an > incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges > > Archana Venkatesan > > (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu > > ) > Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion > > (2022-2024) > *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* > Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > -- > *Ananya Vajpeyi* > https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!Wtlilq39vOddjPPZG8FL0mTW1A_Z1YD9v1_6TLpYv9LQdMsjPDqYxKrcF3Xpjzfp9VuhFxLAbR0m2LUPDBCRrk2rbqho$ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Leaving speculation aside for now, I?ll just say that MCLI has been to my mind one of the most exciting and uplifting initiatives in our field. The way it has weathered previous attacks with solemn dignity has also been a model and inspiration. MCLI is exactly the kind of thing I yearned for when I first started getting interested in Sanskrit as a tender youth, and it really stands to change the world as I see it. I can also say from firsthand experience that each of our colleagues who has been fired from their position is a scholar and editor of the highest possible order. Their dismissal is an act of such insanity that I wonder if anyone behind it could even be fit to stand trial. In any case this is an indelible stain on the reputation of MCLI and HUP. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:58?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, > no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding > scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the > former members of the editorial board. > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication > from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an > incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges > > Archana Venkatesan > > (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu > > ) > Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion > > (2022-2024) > *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* > Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VgfNW29l13F9XyBjEt94VIJ9a8371sf67wcOStxwK7VmoIZj1n9oow9QuPXnNJ95juwrN0UuVpm8yceWS3u8JIgiUC1u$ > -- Jesse Knutson PhD Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i, M?noa 461 Spalding E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo tegnon l?anime triste di coloro che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro de li angeli che non furon ribelli n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu Tue Mar 5 13:25:51 2024 From: Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu (Lyne Bansat-Boudon) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:25:51 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Jesse, This is a very fine "D?fense et Illustration", if not "de la langue fran?aise" , at least of this incomparable Library. Thanks for this. Lyne Lyne Bansat-Boudon Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France ________________________________ De : INDOLOGY de la part de Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY Envoy? : mardi 5 mars 2024 14:16 ? : Robert P. GOLDMAN Cc : Indology Objet : Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India I cannot fathom why this is happening, but I fear that I already know the kinds of forces compromising academic integrity in this instance, since they are likely the same ones at work in many other less spectacular ones. Leaving speculation aside for now, I?ll just say that MCLI has been to my mind one of the most exciting and uplifting initiatives in our field. The way it has weathered previous attacks with solemn dignity has also been a model and inspiration. MCLI is exactly the kind of thing I yearned for when I first started getting interested in Sanskrit as a tender youth, and it really stands to change the world as I see it. I can also say from firsthand experience that each of our colleagues who has been fired from their position is a scholar and editor of the highest possible order. Their dismissal is an act of such insanity that I wonder if anyone behind it could even be fit to stand trial. In any case this is an indelible stain on the reputation of MCLI and HUP. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:58?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY > wrote: This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the former members of the editorial board. Dr. R.P. Goldman William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus and Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Respected Colleagues, With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. Archana -- "When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation." Jorge Luis Borges Archana Venkatesan (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion (2022-2024) Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4y5v4y5fIzQwvLzF8YOoLuoQoF5tmD37jFI4K6b_IW-5GY-TkJf9yUdt8cqS5P4bZDgavy9Auk] _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VgfNW29l13F9XyBjEt94VIJ9a8371sf67wcOStxwK7VmoIZj1n9oow9QuPXnNJ95juwrN0UuVpm8yceWS3u8JIgiUC1u$ -- Jesse Knutson PhD Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i, M?noa 461 Spalding E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo tegnon l?anime triste di coloro che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro de li angeli che non furon ribelli n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Tue Mar 5 14:28:03 2024 From: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca (Brendan Gillon) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 09:28:03 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: <521FAC3D-8659-4574-98E4-1A9A01FC4AF2@gmail.com> References: <521FAC3D-8659-4574-98E4-1A9A01FC4AF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0cc63496-34c6-4d09-97a6-6196ba1587d8@mcgill.ca> Dear colleagues, I too agree that the Murty Classical Library of India is a valuable book series and its discontinuation would be a loss to Indology. I would be happy to sign a letter to that effect. I would in no circumstances sign a letter censuring someone without having heard the accused person's side of the story. It is a fundamental principle of law: `audi alteram partem' (`let the other side be heard'). Cordially yours, Brendan Gillon On 3/5/24 02:20, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY wrote: > This is a stain on Professor Parimal Patil and on Harvard University. > I do hope the Provost of Harvard will set the matter right. > > Asko Parpola, Professor Emeritus of South Asian Studies, University of > Helsinki > > > >> On 4. Mar 2024, at 20.58, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY >> wrote: >> >> This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It >> reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking >> and outstanding scholarly series. List members should add their >> voices to those of ?the ?former members of the editorial board. >> >> Dr. R.P. Goldman >> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >> and >> Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines ?Publication Series >> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Respected Colleagues, >>> >>> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached >>> communication from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library >>> of India. >>> >>> Archana >>> >>> -- >>> /"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too >>> bad an incarnation."/ Jorge Luis Borges >>> >>> Archana Venkatesan >>> ?(archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu >>> ) >>> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion >>> >>> (2022-2024) >>> /Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature/ >>> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Brendan S. Gillon email:brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Department of Linguistics McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 H3A 1A7 CANADA webpage:http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Tue Mar 5 16:02:58 2024 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 17:02:58 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Merci Lyne! mon inspiration est toujours de la langue fran?aise bien que ce soit ?crit en anglais! On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:25?PM Lyne Bansat-Boudon < Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu> wrote: > Dear Jesse, > > This is a very fine "D?fense et Illustration", if not "de la langue > fran?aise" , at least of this incomparable Library. > > Thanks for this. > > Lyne > > Lyne Bansat-Boudon > > Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde > > Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses > > Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France > ------------------------------ > *De :* INDOLOGY de la part de Jesse > Knutson via INDOLOGY > *Envoy? :* mardi 5 mars 2024 14:16 > *? :* Robert P. GOLDMAN > *Cc :* Indology > *Objet :* Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library > of India > > I cannot fathom why this is happening, but I fear that I already know the > kinds of forces compromising academic integrity in this instance, since > they are likely the same ones at work in many other less spectacular ones. > Leaving speculation aside for now, I?ll just say that MCLI has been to my > mind one of the most exciting and uplifting initiatives in our field. The > way it has weathered previous attacks with solemn dignity has also been a > model and inspiration. MCLI is exactly the kind of thing I yearned for when > I first started getting interested in Sanskrit as a tender youth, and it > really stands to change the world as I see it. I can also say from > firsthand experience that each of our colleagues who has been fired from > their position is a scholar and editor of the highest possible order. Their > dismissal is an act of such insanity that I wonder if anyone behind it > could even be fit to stand trial. In any case this is an indelible stain on > the reputation of MCLI and HUP. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:58?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, > no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding > scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the > former members of the editorial board. > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication > from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an > incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges > > Archana Venkatesan > > (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu > > ) > Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion > > (2022-2024) > *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* > Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VgfNW29l13F9XyBjEt94VIJ9a8371sf67wcOStxwK7VmoIZj1n9oow9QuPXnNJ95juwrN0UuVpm8yceWS3u8JIgiUC1u$ > > > > -- > Jesse Knutson PhD > Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature > Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i, M?noa > 461 Spalding > > E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, > dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? > e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? > > Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo > tegnon l?anime triste di coloro > che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. > > Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro > de li angeli che non furon ribelli > n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. > > Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, > > n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, > > > ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) > -- Jesse Knutson PhD Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i, M?noa 461 Spalding E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo tegnon l?anime triste di coloro che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro de li angeli che non furon ribelli n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpg at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 5 19:06:23 2024 From: rpg at berkeley.edu (Robert P. GOLDMAN) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:06:23 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] the debacle at Harvard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Matthew, Thanks for your message. A letter to the Provost is, I think, exactly what we should do. (I am working on mine right now) I had suggested it yesterday on Indology. Frankly, it is about all we can do but we should stress that if this situation is not investigated and remedied it will be become a serious academic scandal for Veritas.com in that that the head of the project may well have been pressured by donors and others connected with right wing groups to undermine one of the most significant ongoing humanistic publication series on South Asia of our generation. Best, Bob. Dr. R.P. Goldman William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus and Professor in the Graduate School Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > On Mar 5, 2024, at 8:46?AM, Matthew Kapstein wrote: > > Dear Bob, Patrick, Philip, Jack, Brendan, and David, > > I hope this finds you all very well. > > As I mentioned in a post to the Indology list, I imagine that the interim provost at Harvard has other fish to fry just now, besides Indian pomfret. But what's happened with Murty appears to be quite disturbing, and a transparent inquiry seems essential. One rumor that reached me suggests that the donors may have had a role in all this, but one of the reasons for which a genuine inquiry is essential is so that the field is not soon awash in rumors. And above all, it would be good to see the project on its feet again in a fully credible fashion. > > I don't really think that there is very much that those of us not directly involved can usefully do here. But one thing that did come to mind is to begin a write-in campaign to the Harvard provost's office, with the aim just of demonstrating that there are concerned parties who are watching what transpires. I would be pleased to draft a boilerplate call for a fully transparent inquiry, to circulate for those who might wish to submit such a message. > > Before so doing, however, I wanted to ask your thoughts about whether this seems a useful gesture and, if so, what suggestions you might have for it. Brendan rightly emphasized that censure and accusation based on partial accounts must be avoided. Under the circumstances, it does seem to me that Harvard has an interest in clarifying just what's been going on. > > In all events, > grateful for your thoughts, > Matthew > > PS. I should just perhaps mention that my own interest, besides knowing almost everyone involved, is in part due to my having a proposal to the series in preparation, and that is now definitely on hold. > > Matthew T. 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URL: From luther.obrock at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 19:35:04 2024 From: luther.obrock at gmail.com (luther obrock) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:35:04 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Prof. Venkatesan and Indology List, I wanted to thank Archana for informing the wider community about the events surrounding the Murty Classical Library of India. I do hope we can lend our voices to call for an investigation of by the Provost at Harvard University into the dismissal of the editorial board. These scholars have been tirelessly undertaking a great humanistic enterprise to bring the richness of the South Asian classical tradition to a wider readership; such work must be celebrated and cultivated. I do hope that Harvard, the Provost, and Prof. Patil will offer some clarification about recent events and the future of MCLI soon. Sincerely, Luther Obrock Assistant Professor of Sanskrit University of California, Berkeley On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 8:03?AM Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Merci Lyne! mon inspiration est toujours de la langue fran?aise bien que > ce soit ?crit en anglais! > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:25?PM Lyne Bansat-Boudon < > Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu> wrote: > >> Dear Jesse, >> >> This is a very fine "D?fense et Illustration", if not "de la langue >> fran?aise" , at least of this incomparable Library. >> >> Thanks for this. >> >> Lyne >> >> Lyne Bansat-Boudon >> >> Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde >> >> Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses >> >> Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France >> ------------------------------ >> *De :* INDOLOGY de la part de >> Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY >> *Envoy? :* mardi 5 mars 2024 14:16 >> *? :* Robert P. GOLDMAN >> *Cc :* Indology >> *Objet :* Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library >> of India >> >> I cannot fathom why this is happening, but I fear that I already know the >> kinds of forces compromising academic integrity in this instance, since >> they are likely the same ones at work in many other less spectacular ones. >> Leaving speculation aside for now, I?ll just say that MCLI has been to my >> mind one of the most exciting and uplifting initiatives in our field. The >> way it has weathered previous attacks with solemn dignity has also been a >> model and inspiration. MCLI is exactly the kind of thing I yearned for when >> I first started getting interested in Sanskrit as a tender youth, and it >> really stands to change the world as I see it. I can also say from >> firsthand experience that each of our colleagues who has been fired from >> their position is a scholar and editor of the highest possible order. Their >> dismissal is an act of such insanity that I wonder if anyone behind it >> could even be fit to stand trial. In any case this is an indelible stain on >> the reputation of MCLI and HUP. >> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:58?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, >> no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding >> scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the >> former members of the editorial board. >> >> Dr. R.P. Goldman >> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >> and >> Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series >> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Dear Respected Colleagues, >> >> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication >> from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >> >> Archana >> >> -- >> *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an >> incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges >> >> Archana Venkatesan >> >> (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu >> >> ) >> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion >> >> (2022-2024) >> *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* >> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VgfNW29l13F9XyBjEt94VIJ9a8371sf67wcOStxwK7VmoIZj1n9oow9QuPXnNJ95juwrN0UuVpm8yceWS3u8JIgiUC1u$ >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Knutson PhD >> Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature >> Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures >> University of Hawai'i, M?noa >> 461 Spalding >> >> E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, >> dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? >> e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? >> >> Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo >> tegnon l?anime triste di coloro >> che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. >> >> Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro >> de li angeli che non furon ribelli >> n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. >> >> Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, >> >> n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, >> >> >> ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) >> > > > -- > Jesse Knutson PhD > Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature > Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i, M?noa > 461 Spalding > > E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, > dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? > e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? > > Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo > tegnon l?anime triste di coloro > che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. > > Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro > de li angeli che non furon ribelli > n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. > > Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, > > n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, > ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber d?elli?. (Inferno 3.31-39) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Tue Mar 5 19:46:14 2024 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?UTF-8?B?THVib23DrXIgT25kcmHEjWth?=) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 20:46:14 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is already public: https://theprint.in/india/5-scholars-summarily-dismissed-from-classical-library-of-india-founded-by-narayana-murthys-son/1989023/ The Print asked prof. Patil for comment. L. On 05.03.2024 20:35, luther obrock via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Prof. Venkatesan and Indology List, > > I wanted to thank Archana for informing the wider community about the > events surrounding the Murty Classical Library?of India. I do hope we > can lend our voices to call for an investigation?of by the Provost at > Harvard University into the dismissal of the editorial board. These > scholars have been tirelessly undertaking a great humanistic enterprise > to bring the richness of the South Asian classical tradition to a wider > readership; such work must be celebrated and cultivated. I do hope that > Harvard, the Provost, and Prof. Patil will offer some clarification > about recent events and the future of MCLI soon. > > Sincerely, > > Luther Obrock > > Assistant Professor?of Sanskrit > University of California, Berkeley > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 8:03?AM Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY > > wrote: > > Merci Lyne!?mon inspiration est toujours de la langue fran?aise bien > que ce soit ?crit en anglais! > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:25?PM Lyne Bansat-Boudon > > wrote: > > Dear Jesse, > > This is a very fine "D?fense et Illustration", if not "de la > langue fran?aise" , at least of this incomparable Library. > > Thanks for this. > > Lyne > > Lyne Bansat-Boudon > > Directeur d'?tudes pour les Religions de l'Inde > > Ecole pratique des hautes ?tudes, section des sciences religieuses > > Membre senior honoraire de l'Institut universitaire de France > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De :* INDOLOGY > de la part de > Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY > > *Envoy? :* mardi 5 mars 2024 14:16 > *? :* Robert P. GOLDMAN > > *Cc?:* Indology > > *Objet :* Re: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical > Library of India > I cannot fathom why this is happening, but I fear that I already > know the kinds of forces compromising academic integrity in this > instance, since they are likely the same ones at work in many > other less spectacular?ones. Leaving speculation aside for now, > I?ll just say that MCLI has been to my mind one of the most > exciting and uplifting initiatives in our field. The way it has > weathered previous attacks with solemn dignity has also been a > model and inspiration. MCLI is exactly the kind of thing I > yearned for when I first started getting interested in Sanskrit > as a tender youth, and it really stands to change the world as I > see it. I can also say from firsthand experience that each of > our colleagues who has been fired from their position is a > scholar and editor of the highest possible order. Their > dismissal is an act of such insanity that I wonder if anyone > behind it could even be fit to stand trial. In any case this is > an indelible stain on the reputation of MCLI and HUP. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:58?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY > > wrote: > > This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. > It reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this > groundbreaking and outstanding scholarly series. List > members should add their voices to those of ?the ?former > members of the editorial board. > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines > ?Publication Series > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > >> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via >> INDOLOGY > > wrote: >> >> Dear Respected Colleagues, >> >> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached >> communication from the former editors of the Murty >> Classical Library of India. >> >> Archana >> >> -- >> /"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, >> not too bad an incarnation."/? Jorge Luis Borges >> >> Archana Venkatesan >> ?(archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu ) >> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of >> Religion >> (2022-2024) >> /Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature/ >> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VgfNW29l13F9XyBjEt94VIJ9a8371sf67wcOStxwK7VmoIZj1n9oow9QuPXnNJ95juwrN0UuVpm8yceWS3u8JIgiUC1u$ > > > > -- > Jesse Knutson PhD > Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature > Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i, M?noa > 461 Spalding > > E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, > dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? > e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? > > Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo > tegnon l?anime triste di coloro > che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. > > Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro > de li angeli che non furon ribelli > n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. > > Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, > > n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber > d?elli?.?(Inferno 3.31-39) > > > > -- > Jesse Knutson PhD > Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature > Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i, M?noa > 461 Spalding > > E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, > dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? > e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? > > Ed elli a me: ?Questo misero modo > tegnon l?anime triste di coloro > che visser sanza ?nfamia e sanza lodo. > > Mischiate sono a quel cattivo coro > de li angeli che non furon ribelli > n? fur fedeli a Dio, ma per s? fuoro. > > Caccianli i ciel per non esser men belli, > > n? lo profondo inferno li riceve, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ch?alcuna gloria i rei avrebber > d?elli?.?(Inferno 3.31-39) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From rpg at berkeley.edu Tue Mar 5 20:15:07 2024 From: rpg at berkeley.edu (Robert P. GOLDMAN) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 12:15:07 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI Message-ID: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> Dear Colleagues, Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. Bob Dr. R.P. Goldman William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus and Professor in the Graduate School Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Harvard Provost.doc Type: application/msword Size: 112640 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jemhouben at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 22:58:52 2024 From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:58:52 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: <0cc63496-34c6-4d09-97a6-6196ba1587d8@mcgill.ca> References: <521FAC3D-8659-4574-98E4-1A9A01FC4AF2@gmail.com> <0cc63496-34c6-4d09-97a6-6196ba1587d8@mcgill.ca> Message-ID: Dear All, Thanks for drawing attention to this disturbing situation. While profoundly appreciative and grateful for the monumental achievements of MCLI so far, thanks to the generous funding and the engagement of sincere scholarship and administration, I fully support both points brought forward by Brendan. Perhaps so, but it is indeed questionable whether anything can be expected by writing to the current interim provost or any senior administrator at Harvard University, who, no doubt having more pressing concerns at present, are only in the most formal way "ultimately responsible" for what happens according to MCLI's self-adopted and self-funded mission https://www.murtylibrary.com/about/our-mission All best, Jan Houben On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 15:33, Brendan Gillon via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I too agree that the Murty Classical Library of India is a valuable book > series and its discontinuation would be a loss to Indology. I would be > happy to sign a letter to that effect. > > I would in no circumstances sign a letter censuring someone without having > heard the accused person's side of the story. It is a fundamental principle > of law: `audi alteram partem' (`let the other side be heard'). > > Cordially yours, > > Brendan Gillon > > > On 3/5/24 02:20, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY wrote: > > This is a stain on Professor Parimal Patil and on Harvard University. I do > hope the Provost of Harvard will set the matter right. > > Asko Parpola, Professor Emeritus of South Asian Studies, University of > Helsinki > > > > On 4. Mar 2024, at 20.58, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, > no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding > scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the > former members of the editorial board. > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Dear Respected Colleagues, > > With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication > from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. > > Archana > > -- > *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an > incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges > > Archana Venkatesan ( > archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) > Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion > (2022-2024) > *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* > Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > -- > > Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca > Department of Linguistics > McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 > 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield > Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 > H3A 1A7 CANADA > > webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben * *https://www.classicalindia.info* LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission et transformations d'un savoir scientifique -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When there was a general editor, it was somebody's job to care about scholarly matters, but that has not been the case at MCLI for several years now. The big picture is that, once the decision was made to house MCLI at a big, rich, prestigious, complex, institution, "their reality is the one that matters" (as someone closely involved with MCLI once said). The editors and translators of the series ultimately work for the institution, as HUP has demonstrated on multiple occasions, most recently with the firing of the entire editorial board. That is unfortunate, especially because I had hoped that a big endowment would free the series from some of the caprices of patronage that we might have worried about (remember CSL?). But even if the "portfolio" of MCLI has a lot of money attached to it, it's still not a portfolio that we, the scholars, have any control over whatsoever, or any right to. (Indeed, I had to sign away all of my rights for my translation of *L?l?va?*, and I would bet that the same is true for every other book published in the series.) If we, the scholarly community, ever undertake a project like this again, I would hope that its future would depend to a much greater extent on the people who actually do the scholarly work. Andrew On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:01?PM Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear All, > > Thanks for drawing attention to this disturbing situation. > While profoundly appreciative and grateful for the monumental achievements > of MCLI so far, thanks to the generous funding and the engagement of > sincere scholarship and administration, I fully support both points brought > forward by Brendan. > Perhaps so, but it is indeed questionable whether anything can be expected > by writing to the current interim provost or any senior administrator at > Harvard University, who, no doubt having more pressing concerns at present, > are only in the most formal way "ultimately responsible" for what happens > according to MCLI's self-adopted and self-funded mission > https://www.murtylibrary.com/about/our-mission > > All best, > > Jan Houben > > On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 15:33, Brendan Gillon via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I too agree that the Murty Classical Library of India is a valuable book >> series and its discontinuation would be a loss to Indology. I would be >> happy to sign a letter to that effect. >> >> I would in no circumstances sign a letter censuring someone without >> having heard the accused person's side of the story. It is a fundamental >> principle of law: `audi alteram partem' (`let the other side be heard'). >> >> Cordially yours, >> >> Brendan Gillon >> >> >> On 3/5/24 02:20, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> This is a stain on Professor Parimal Patil and on Harvard University. I >> do hope the Provost of Harvard will set the matter right. >> >> Asko Parpola, Professor Emeritus of South Asian Studies, University of >> Helsinki >> >> >> >> On 4. Mar 2024, at 20.58, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY >> wrote: >> >> This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It reflects, >> no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and outstanding >> scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those of the >> former members of the editorial board. >> >> Dr. R.P. Goldman >> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >> and >> Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series >> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY >> wrote: >> >> Dear Respected Colleagues, >> >> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication >> from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >> >> Archana >> >> -- >> *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an >> incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges >> >> Archana Venkatesan ( >> archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) >> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion >> (2022-2024) >> *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* >> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> -- >> >> Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca >> Department of Linguistics >> McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 >> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield >> Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 >> H3A 1A7 CANADA >> >> webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* > > ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) > > *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * > > *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > * > > *https://www.classicalindia.info* > > LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avenkatesan at ucdavis.edu Wed Mar 6 00:54:42 2024 From: avenkatesan at ucdavis.edu (Archana Venkatesan) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 16:54:42 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: <521FAC3D-8659-4574-98E4-1A9A01FC4AF2@gmail.com> <0cc63496-34c6-4d09-97a6-6196ba1587d8@mcgill.ca> Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I am posting this short clarification on behalf of the former members of the MCLI Editorial Board. In light of the huge outpouring of support and concern for us and MCLI, we wish to clarify two points. 1. That we, the former MCLI EB members, do not wish to speculate on the reasons for our dismissal. We do not know why we were dismissed as no concrete reason was provided to us. In fact, even as we were being dismissed we were told that we could continue to work on editorial projects that were of interest to us. The dismissal came as a surprise to us. 2. That we are not mounting a pressure campaign to be reinstated to the MCLI EB. Our goal with the public statement is simply to shine a light on what has transpired over the past 18 months and to urge the Provost's Office to initiate a fair and thorough review of the Series. Best, Archana On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 4:29?PM Andrew Ollett via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > I very rarely write to this list to simply voice an opinion, but I think I > will break my own rule in this case, because the question has arisen of > what we, as scholars, can do in a situation like this. The answer, I am > sorry to say, is not very much. That is by design. MCLI is published by > Harvard University Press, which, while technically a non-profit, is a > non-profit the same way that Harvard University is, with an endowment > bigger than the GDP of most countries. The press is a business, concerned > with brands, markets, and intellectual property. When there was a general > editor, it was somebody's job to care about scholarly matters, but that has > not been the case at MCLI for several years now. The big picture is that, > once the decision was made to house MCLI at a big, rich, prestigious, > complex, institution, "their reality is the one that matters" (as someone > closely involved with MCLI once said). The editors and translators of the > series ultimately work for the institution, as HUP has demonstrated on > multiple occasions, most recently with the firing of the entire editorial > board. > > That is unfortunate, especially because I had hoped that a big endowment > would free the series from some of the caprices of patronage that we might > have worried about (remember CSL?). But even if the "portfolio" of MCLI has > a lot of money attached to it, it's still not a portfolio that we, the > scholars, have any control over whatsoever, or any right to. (Indeed, I had > to sign away all of my rights for my translation of *L?l?va?*, and I > would bet that the same is true for every other book published in the > series.) > > If we, the scholarly community, ever undertake a project like this again, > I would hope that its future would depend to a much greater extent on the > people who actually do the scholarly work. > > Andrew > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:01?PM Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Thanks for drawing attention to this disturbing situation. >> While profoundly appreciative and grateful for the monumental >> achievements of MCLI so far, thanks to the generous funding and the >> engagement of sincere scholarship and administration, I fully support both >> points brought forward by Brendan. >> Perhaps so, but it is indeed questionable whether anything can be >> expected by writing to the current interim provost or any senior >> administrator at Harvard University, who, no doubt having more pressing >> concerns at present, are only in the most formal way "ultimately >> responsible" for what happens according to MCLI's self-adopted and >> self-funded mission https://www.murtylibrary.com/about/our-mission >> >> All best, >> >> Jan Houben >> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 15:33, Brendan Gillon via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> I too agree that the Murty Classical Library of India is a valuable book >>> series and its discontinuation would be a loss to Indology. I would be >>> happy to sign a letter to that effect. >>> >>> I would in no circumstances sign a letter censuring someone without >>> having heard the accused person's side of the story. It is a fundamental >>> principle of law: `audi alteram partem' (`let the other side be heard'). >>> >>> Cordially yours, >>> >>> Brendan Gillon >>> >>> >>> On 3/5/24 02:20, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> >>> This is a stain on Professor Parimal Patil and on Harvard University. I >>> do hope the Provost of Harvard will set the matter right. >>> >>> Asko Parpola, Professor Emeritus of South Asian Studies, University of >>> Helsinki >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4. Mar 2024, at 20.58, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It >>> reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and >>> outstanding scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those >>> of the former members of the editorial board. >>> >>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >>> and >>> Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series >>> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >>> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Respected Colleagues, >>> >>> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication >>> from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >>> >>> Archana >>> >>> -- >>> *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad >>> an incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges >>> >>> Archana Venkatesan ( >>> archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) >>> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion >>> (2022-2024) >>> *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* >>> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca >>> Department of Linguistics >>> McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 >>> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield >>> Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 >>> H3A 1A7 CANADA >>> >>> webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Jan E.M. Houben* >> >> Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology >> >> *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* >> >> ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) >> >> *Sciences historiques et philologiques * >> >> Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) >> >> *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * >> >> *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben >> * >> >> *https://www.classicalindia.info* >> >> LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission >> >> et transformations d'un savoir scientifique >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad an incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges Archana Venkatesan ( archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu) Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion (2022-2024) *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vajpeyi at csds.in Wed Mar 6 05:08:07 2024 From: vajpeyi at csds.in (Ananya Vajpeyi) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:38:07 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI In-Reply-To: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> References: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> Message-ID: Thank you for your excellent letter, Professor Goldman. Given the discussion here on Indology, this much seems clear: It is in everyone's interest that a project as stellar as the MCLI continue to produce editions and translations of the Indian classics across languages, as it has done for a decade under the General Editorship of Sheldon Pollock, together with different sets of section editors looking after different languages, and with the exceptional publication capacities and standards of HUP (to which I can testify from my own experience as an author, albeit not in this series). Since pretty much everyone with the requisite linguistic, philological, textual and literary expertise (in various classical languages) anywhere in the world is already involved and invested in the MCLI; since we are all in this together as translators, editors, readers, and teachers, we do want the series to continue, and for it to maintain its high quality into the foreseeable future. Like with any group endeavour, some housekeeping and some moving around of personnel is inevitable and wouldn't surprise any of us in academia, with our committees and departments routinely going through these sorts of cycles, and not always smoothly. In this case, given what Archana and her co-editors have brought to our attention, it seems entirely fair to ask for a review or audit of the MCLI, i.e., more transparency with regard to who is in charge of editing, for how long, and with what sort of remit over a specified term of appointment. In all events, on-going work should not be thrown into jeopardy while seemingly arbitrary changes are made in the leadership, without consultation or consensus. We can and must hope that as a very small community (in the larger scheme of things), between us we will be able to overcome this dispute in such a way as to preserve the mission and vision of the MCLI, best presented in Professor Pollock's essay "What should a Classical Library of India be?" (written for *The Loeb Classical Library and Its Progeny. Proceedings of the First James Loeb Biennial Conference*, edited by Jeffrey Henderson and Richard Thomas, 63?84. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard U. Press, 2020. Available at: https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf). His essay shows that every part of this project is integral to its conception, including scholarship, philology, pedagogy, translation, publication, design, printing and dissemination. Right down to the typefaces, everything is part of a plan, with an eye to the future. Since all parties involved are superb at what they do, and since we have so many luminous volumes already in our hands to prove it, let us focus our collective energies on helping resolve the current contretemps speedily and gracefully. It can be done. Especially as educators, we cannot allow pessimism to get the better of us. Texts that have survived and brightened the admittedly often disheartening human condition for centuries can surely make it through and past this transient misunderstanding among our learned colleagues and friends. With all good wishes, Ananya. *Ananya Vajpeyi, Ph.D.* *Fellow, **Centre for the Study of Developing Societies* *29 Rajpur Rd., Civil Lines* *New Delhi 110054, INDIA* *EMAIL: vajpeyi at csds.in * *CSDS BIO: http://www.csds.in/faculty_ananya_vajpeyi.htm * *RESEARCH PROJECT: https://www.nilgiri.ugent.be/team/ * On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:46?AM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. > > Bob > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus > and > Professor in the Graduate School > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Ananya Vajpeyi* https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Mar 6 06:42:57 2024 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:42:57 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI In-Reply-To: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> References: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> Message-ID: Dear Bob, Thanks for sharing your letter to the provost at Harvard. Your wording seems very judicious to me. Hope yo receive a reply to your letter, and that an examination of what is happening takes place. Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:15?PM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. > > Bob > > Dr. R.P. 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URL: From jpo at austin.utexas.edu Wed Mar 6 14:25:08 2024 From: jpo at austin.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:25:08 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI In-Reply-To: References: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <12539F36-FF9B-4B02-AC6B-D0B0422D4148@austin.utexas.edu> Here is a Wire report on the issue: [Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg] Exits Rock Murty Classical Library, Once Feted for New Translations of Rare Manuscripts thewire.in Patrick On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:08?PM, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY wrote: Thank you for your excellent letter, Professor Goldman. Given the discussion here on Indology, this much seems clear: It is in everyone's interest that a project as stellar as the MCLI continue to produce editions and translations of the Indian classics across languages, as it has done for a decade under the General Editorship of Sheldon Pollock, together with different sets of section editors looking after different languages, and with the exceptional publication capacities and standards of HUP (to which I can testify from my own experience as an author, albeit not in this series). Since pretty much everyone with the requisite linguistic, philological, textual and literary expertise (in various classical languages) anywhere in the world is already involved and invested in the MCLI; since we are all in this together as translators, editors, readers, and teachers, we do want the series to continue, and for it to maintain its high quality into the foreseeable future. Like with any group endeavour, some housekeeping and some moving around of personnel is inevitable and wouldn't surprise any of us in academia, with our committees and departments routinely going through these sorts of cycles, and not always smoothly. In this case, given what Archana and her co-editors have brought to our attention, it seems entirely fair to ask for a review or audit of the MCLI, i.e., more transparency with regard to who is in charge of editing, for how long, and with what sort of remit over a specified term of appointment. In all events, on-going work should not be thrown into jeopardy while seemingly arbitrary changes are made in the leadership, without consultation or consensus. We can and must hope that as a very small community (in the larger scheme of things), between us we will be able to overcome this dispute in such a way as to preserve the mission and vision of the MCLI, best presented in Professor Pollock's essay "What should a Classical Library of India be?" (written for The Loeb Classical Library and Its Progeny. Proceedings of the First James Loeb Biennial Conference, edited by Jeffrey Henderson and Richard Thomas, 63?84. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard U. Press, 2020. Available at: https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf). His essay shows that every part of this project is integral to its conception, including scholarship, philology, pedagogy, translation, publication, design, printing and dissemination. Right down to the typefaces, everything is part of a plan, with an eye to the future. Since all parties involved are superb at what they do, and since we have so many luminous volumes already in our hands to prove it, let us focus our collective energies on helping resolve the current contretemps speedily and gracefully. It can be done. Especially as educators, we cannot allow pessimism to get the better of us. Texts that have survived and brightened the admittedly often disheartening human condition for centuries can surely make it through and past this transient misunderstanding among our learned colleagues and friends. With all good wishes, Ananya. Ananya Vajpeyi, Ph.D. Fellow, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies 29 Rajpur Rd., Civil Lines New Delhi 110054, INDIA EMAIL: vajpeyi at csds.in CSDS BIO: http://www.csds.in/faculty_ananya_vajpeyi.htm RESEARCH PROJECT: https://www.nilgiri.ugent.be/team/ On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:46?AM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Colleagues, Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. Bob Dr. R.P. Goldman William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus and Professor in the Graduate School Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Ananya Vajpeyi https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 47028 bytes Desc: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 14:41:51 2024 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 15:41:51 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI In-Reply-To: <12539F36-FF9B-4B02-AC6B-D0B0422D4148@austin.utexas.edu> References: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> <12539F36-FF9B-4B02-AC6B-D0B0422D4148@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: With thanks to Patrick for the link, I fear that what it presents is--at least as far as I can quickly tell--not in some respects reliable, which cannot help but cast doubt on the whole. I confess my unfamiliarity with the two newly appointed members of the editorial board, and I don't --for this and other reasons--have any intention of commenting on this. I want to say only this: I quote from the article directly: Hoskote is an internationally renowned art curator and poet from Mumbai. He was in the news a few months ago when his criticism of Hindutva and Zionism and an earlier call for the boycott of Israel prompted the German government to threaten withdrawal of financial support from the ?Documenta? art event unless it ended its association with him. If one goes to the linked article and reads it fully (and did the reporter who cited it not do this?), one learns that the portrayal in the sentence here of Mr Hoskote's position is entirely erroneous. I repeat that I am unfamiliar with him, and intend to express no views about him or about the Murty affair. I only want to question the reporting here which as far as I can see has little relation to the reality of what apparently took place between him and the Greman organization with which he was earlier connected. If this sets or indicates the tone of what we can further expect for reporting on this affair, we are in trouble. Jonathan On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:26?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Here is a Wire report on the issue: > > [image: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg] > > Exits Rock Murty Classical Library, Once Feted for New Translations of > Rare Manuscripts > > thewire.in > > > > Patrick > > > On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:08?PM, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > Thank you for your excellent letter, Professor Goldman. > > Given the discussion here on Indology, this much seems clear: It is in > everyone's interest that a project as stellar as the MCLI continue to > produce editions and translations of the Indian classics across languages, > as it has done for a decade under the General Editorship of Sheldon > Pollock, together with different sets of section editors looking after > different languages, and with the exceptional publication capacities and > standards of HUP (to which I can testify from my own experience as an > author, albeit not in this series). > > Since pretty much everyone with the requisite linguistic, philological, > textual and literary expertise (in various classical languages) anywhere in > the world is already involved and invested in the MCLI; since we are all in > this together as translators, editors, readers, and teachers, we do want > the series to continue, and for it to maintain its high quality into the > foreseeable future. > > Like with any group endeavour, some housekeeping and some moving around of > personnel is inevitable and wouldn't surprise any of us in academia, with > our committees and departments routinely going through these sorts of > cycles, and not always smoothly. > > In this case, given what Archana and her co-editors have brought to our > attention, it seems entirely fair to ask for a review or audit of the MCLI, > i.e., more transparency with regard to who is in charge of editing, for how > long, and with what sort of remit over a specified term of appointment. In > all events, on-going work should not be thrown into jeopardy while > seemingly arbitrary changes are made in the leadership, without > consultation or consensus. > > We can and must hope that as a very small community (in the larger scheme > of things), between us we will be able to overcome this dispute in such a > way as to preserve the mission and vision of the MCLI, best presented in > Professor Pollock's essay "What should a Classical Library of India be?" > (written for *The Loeb Classical Library and Its Progeny. Proceedings of > the First James Loeb Biennial Conference*, edited by Jeffrey Henderson > and Richard Thomas, 63?84. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard U. Press, 2020. > Available at: https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf). > > His essay shows that every part of this project is integral to its > conception, including scholarship, philology, pedagogy, translation, > publication, design, printing and dissemination. Right down to the > typefaces, everything is part of a plan, with an eye to the future. > > Since all parties involved are superb at what they do, and since we have > so many luminous volumes already in our hands to prove it, let us focus our > collective energies on helping resolve the current contretemps speedily > and gracefully. It can be done. Especially as educators, we cannot allow > pessimism to get the better of us. > > Texts that have survived and brightened the admittedly often disheartening > human condition for centuries can surely make it through and past this > transient misunderstanding among our learned colleagues and friends. > > With all good wishes, > > Ananya. > > *Ananya Vajpeyi, Ph.D.* > *Fellow, **Centre for the Study of Developing Societies* > *29 Rajpur Rd., Civil Lines* > *New Delhi 110054, INDIA* > *EMAIL: vajpeyi at csds.in * > *CSDS BIO: http://www.csds.in/faculty_ananya_vajpeyi.htm > * > *RESEARCH PROJECT: https://www.nilgiri.ugent.be/team/ > * > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:46?AM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. >> >> Bob >> >> Dr. R.P. Goldman >> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >> and >> Professor in the Graduate School >> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > *Ananya Vajpeyi* > https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Prof. dr. J.A. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden website: www.OpenPhilology.eu copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 47028 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaels at hcts.uni-heidelberg.de Wed Mar 6 16:42:41 2024 From: michaels at hcts.uni-heidelberg.de (Michaels, Prof. Dr. Axel) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:42:41 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?xZp1bGJhc8WrdHJhcw==?= Message-ID: <3A9ED667-344B-4FC5-9C4B-8C7FDD652BC5@hcts.uni-heidelberg.de> Dear Patrick, I did not systematically followed the research on the ?ulvas?tras after my Dissertation from 1978 (Beweisverfahren in der vedischen Sakralgeometrie, Wiesbaden. Franz Steiner, 1978) but as far as I know Jean-Michel Delire (Un chapitre du Baudhayana Sulbasutra. Traduction et commentaires concernant les connaissances math?matiques de l?Inde v?dique. M?moire, Philologie et Histoire Orientales, Universit? Libre de Bruxelles 1993) and Kim Plofker (Mathematics in India, Princeton UP 2009) agree what was at that time the state of the arts: the four main ?ulvS (Baudh?yana, ?pastamba, M?nava and K?ty?yana) date from 6th to 8th c. BCE.?in this sequence. All best wishes, Axel From: INDOLOGY on behalf of "indology at list.indology.info" Reply to: Patrick Olivelle Date: Tuesday, 5. March 2024 at 13:43 To: "indology at list.indology.info" Subject: [INDOLOGY] ?ulbas?tras Dear All: A scholar not on this list asked me about the latest scholarly consensus on the date of the ?ulbas?tras. Not knowing the answer, I thought I would put it to the community. Thanks in advance. Patrick Olivelle _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vajpeyi at csds.in Wed Mar 6 16:52:27 2024 From: vajpeyi at csds.in (Ananya Vajpeyi) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:22:27 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MLCI In-Reply-To: References: <046E5147-9A25-402B-B759-23C7A9F8B0AB@berkeley.edu> <12539F36-FF9B-4B02-AC6B-D0B0422D4148@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Dear Professor Silk, The Wire is currently the most credible independent media outlet in India. Respectfully, I dare say I would not dismiss their reportage as unreliable. (*Full disclosure*: I write for them sometimes, and have written over many years for all their founding editors and current editors, who were earlier associated with major mainstream newspapers and media houses like the Hindu, the Indian Express, the Economic Times, the BBC and so on). Ranjit Hoskote is a well-known and well-regarded poet, translator, art critic, curator and cultural theorist. He took a principled stand against canceling Palestinian artists and intellectuals in Germany, and was labeled "anti-semitic" for this, following which he resigned his position from the 'finding committee' for Documenta. His colleagues followed him: https://thewire.in/rights/no-space-in-germany-for-open-exchange-of-ideas-after-hoskote-other-documenta-panel-members-quit Without getting into the polarised politics in Germany at the moment, which has affected many academics and writers of all nationalities who have tried to speak out on Gaza, both Ranjit Hoskote and Mini Krishnan are perfectly qualified members of an editorial board for a series like the MCLI. The issue is only that they are concerned with literature, translation and humanistic scholarship in a much broader sense, while the actual editing work requires philogical training and historical competence of a very different order. You will agree that the two types of board members can complement one another, but they cannot do the same things interchangeably. Professor Pollock had invited eminent writers and intellectuals from the Indian languages like Girish Karnad and U.R. Ananthamurthy to write short prefaces to some of the Clay Sanskrit Library translations, with an eye to broadening the readership beyond specialists. But the technical aspects of editing and translation were still the job of others like him and the team of scholars who worked on the Clay series. I imagine the same holds true for the MCLI. We still don't have an explanation for why the 5 members who put out the statement (Cox, Venkatesan et al) were dismissed, nor have we heard who they will be replaced by, or when. With kind regards, Ananya. On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:13?PM Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > With thanks to Patrick for the link, I fear that what it presents is--at > least as far as I can quickly tell--not in some respects reliable, which > cannot help but cast doubt on the whole. > > I confess my unfamiliarity with the two newly appointed members of the > editorial board, and I don't --for this and other reasons--have any > intention of commenting on this. I want to say only this: > > I quote from the article directly: > > Hoskote is an internationally renowned art curator and poet from Mumbai. > He was in the news a few months ago > > when his criticism of Hindutva and Zionism and an earlier call for the > boycott of Israel prompted the German government to threaten withdrawal of > financial support from the ?Documenta? art event unless it ended its > association with him. > > If one goes to the linked article and reads it fully (and did the reporter > who cited it not do this?), one learns that the portrayal in the sentence > here of Mr Hoskote's position is entirely erroneous. I repeat that I am > unfamiliar with him, and intend to express no views about him or about the > Murty affair. I only want to question the reporting here which as far as I > can see has little relation to the reality of what apparently took place > between him and the Greman organization with which he was earlier connected. > > If this sets or indicates the tone of what we can further expect for > reporting on this affair, we are in trouble. > > Jonathan > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:26?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Here is a Wire report on the issue: >> >> [image: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg] >> >> Exits Rock Murty Classical Library, Once Feted for New Translations of >> Rare Manuscripts >> >> thewire.in >> >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:08?PM, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you for your excellent letter, Professor Goldman. >> >> Given the discussion here on Indology, this much seems clear: It is in >> everyone's interest that a project as stellar as the MCLI continue to >> produce editions and translations of the Indian classics across languages, >> as it has done for a decade under the General Editorship of Sheldon >> Pollock, together with different sets of section editors looking after >> different languages, and with the exceptional publication capacities and >> standards of HUP (to which I can testify from my own experience as an >> author, albeit not in this series). >> >> Since pretty much everyone with the requisite linguistic, philological, >> textual and literary expertise (in various classical languages) anywhere in >> the world is already involved and invested in the MCLI; since we are all in >> this together as translators, editors, readers, and teachers, we do want >> the series to continue, and for it to maintain its high quality into the >> foreseeable future. >> >> Like with any group endeavour, some housekeeping and some moving around >> of personnel is inevitable and wouldn't surprise any of us in academia, >> with our committees and departments routinely going through these sorts of >> cycles, and not always smoothly. >> >> In this case, given what Archana and her co-editors have brought to our >> attention, it seems entirely fair to ask for a review or audit of the MCLI, >> i.e., more transparency with regard to who is in charge of editing, for how >> long, and with what sort of remit over a specified term of appointment. In >> all events, on-going work should not be thrown into jeopardy while >> seemingly arbitrary changes are made in the leadership, without >> consultation or consensus. >> >> We can and must hope that as a very small community (in the larger scheme >> of things), between us we will be able to overcome this dispute in such a >> way as to preserve the mission and vision of the MCLI, best presented in >> Professor Pollock's essay "What should a Classical Library of India be?" >> (written for *The Loeb Classical Library and Its Progeny. Proceedings of >> the First James Loeb Biennial Conference*, edited by Jeffrey Henderson >> and Richard Thomas, 63?84. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard U. Press, 2020. >> Available at: https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf). >> >> His essay shows that every part of this project is integral to its >> conception, including scholarship, philology, pedagogy, translation, >> publication, design, printing and dissemination. Right down to the >> typefaces, everything is part of a plan, with an eye to the future. >> >> Since all parties involved are superb at what they do, and since we have >> so many luminous volumes already in our hands to prove it, let us focus our >> collective energies on helping resolve the current contretemps speedily >> and gracefully. It can be done. Especially as educators, we cannot allow >> pessimism to get the better of us. >> >> Texts that have survived and brightened the admittedly often >> disheartening human condition for centuries can surely make it through and >> past this transient misunderstanding among our learned colleagues and >> friends. >> >> With all good wishes, >> >> Ananya. >> >> *Ananya Vajpeyi, Ph.D.* >> *Fellow, **Centre for the Study of Developing Societies* >> *29 Rajpur Rd., Civil Lines* >> *New Delhi 110054, INDIA* >> *EMAIL: vajpeyi at csds.in * >> *CSDS BIO: http://www.csds.in/faculty_ananya_vajpeyi.htm >> * >> *RESEARCH PROJECT: https://www.nilgiri.ugent.be/team/ >> * >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:46?AM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >>> and >>> Professor in the Graduate School >>> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >>> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Ananya Vajpeyi* >> https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Prof. dr. J.A. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > > website: www.OpenPhilology.eu > copies of my publications may be found at > https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Ananya Vajpeyi* https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jonathan Silk On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 5:53?PM Ananya Vajpeyi wrote: > Dear Professor Silk, > > The Wire is currently the most credible independent media outlet in India. > Respectfully, I dare say I would not dismiss their reportage as unreliable. > (*Full disclosure*: I write for them sometimes, and have written over > many years for all their founding editors and current editors, who were > earlier associated with major mainstream newspapers and media houses like > the Hindu, the Indian Express, the Economic Times, the BBC and so on). > > Ranjit Hoskote is a well-known and well-regarded poet, translator, art > critic, curator and cultural theorist. He took a principled stand against > canceling Palestinian artists and intellectuals in Germany, and was labeled > "anti-semitic" for this, following which he resigned his position from the > 'finding committee' for Documenta. His colleagues followed him: > https://thewire.in/rights/no-space-in-germany-for-open-exchange-of-ideas-after-hoskote-other-documenta-panel-members-quit > > Without getting into the polarised politics in Germany at the moment, > which has affected many academics and writers of all nationalities who have > tried to speak out on Gaza, both Ranjit Hoskote and Mini Krishnan are > perfectly qualified members of an editorial board for a series like the > MCLI. > > The issue is only that they are concerned with literature, translation and > humanistic scholarship in a much broader sense, while the actual editing > work requires philogical training and historical competence of a very > different order. You will agree that the two types of board members can > complement one another, but they cannot do the same things interchangeably. > > Professor Pollock had invited eminent writers and intellectuals from the > Indian languages like Girish Karnad and U.R. Ananthamurthy to write short > prefaces to some of the Clay Sanskrit Library translations, with an eye to > broadening the readership beyond specialists. But the technical aspects of > editing and translation were still the job of others like him and the team > of scholars who worked on the Clay series. I imagine the same holds true > for the MCLI. > > We still don't have an explanation for why the 5 members who put out the > statement (Cox, Venkatesan et al) were dismissed, nor have we heard who > they will be replaced by, or when. > > With kind regards, > > Ananya. > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:13?PM Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> With thanks to Patrick for the link, I fear that what it presents is--at >> least as far as I can quickly tell--not in some respects reliable, which >> cannot help but cast doubt on the whole. >> >> I confess my unfamiliarity with the two newly appointed members of the >> editorial board, and I don't --for this and other reasons--have any >> intention of commenting on this. I want to say only this: >> >> I quote from the article directly: >> >> Hoskote is an internationally renowned art curator and poet from Mumbai. >> He was in the news a few months ago >> >> when his criticism of Hindutva and Zionism and an earlier call for the >> boycott of Israel prompted the German government to threaten withdrawal of >> financial support from the ?Documenta? art event unless it ended its >> association with him. >> >> If one goes to the linked article and reads it fully (and did the >> reporter who cited it not do this?), one learns that the portrayal in the >> sentence here of Mr Hoskote's position is entirely erroneous. I repeat that >> I am unfamiliar with him, and intend to express no views about him or about >> the Murty affair. I only want to question the reporting here which as far >> as I can see has little relation to the reality of what apparently took >> place between him and the Greman organization with which he was earlier >> connected. >> >> If this sets or indicates the tone of what we can further expect for >> reporting on this affair, we are in trouble. >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:26?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Here is a Wire report on the issue: >>> >>> [image: Untitled-design-6-800x400.jpg] >>> >>> Exits Rock Murty Classical Library, Once Feted for New Translations of >>> Rare Manuscripts >>> >>> thewire.in >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:08?PM, Ananya Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thank you for your excellent letter, Professor Goldman. >>> >>> Given the discussion here on Indology, this much seems clear: It is in >>> everyone's interest that a project as stellar as the MCLI continue to >>> produce editions and translations of the Indian classics across languages, >>> as it has done for a decade under the General Editorship of Sheldon >>> Pollock, together with different sets of section editors looking after >>> different languages, and with the exceptional publication capacities and >>> standards of HUP (to which I can testify from my own experience as an >>> author, albeit not in this series). >>> >>> Since pretty much everyone with the requisite linguistic, philological, >>> textual and literary expertise (in various classical languages) anywhere in >>> the world is already involved and invested in the MCLI; since we are all in >>> this together as translators, editors, readers, and teachers, we do want >>> the series to continue, and for it to maintain its high quality into the >>> foreseeable future. >>> >>> Like with any group endeavour, some housekeeping and some moving around >>> of personnel is inevitable and wouldn't surprise any of us in academia, >>> with our committees and departments routinely going through these sorts of >>> cycles, and not always smoothly. >>> >>> In this case, given what Archana and her co-editors have brought to our >>> attention, it seems entirely fair to ask for a review or audit of the MCLI, >>> i.e., more transparency with regard to who is in charge of editing, for how >>> long, and with what sort of remit over a specified term of appointment. In >>> all events, on-going work should not be thrown into jeopardy while >>> seemingly arbitrary changes are made in the leadership, without >>> consultation or consensus. >>> >>> We can and must hope that as a very small community (in the larger >>> scheme of things), between us we will be able to overcome this dispute in >>> such a way as to preserve the mission and vision of the MCLI, best >>> presented in Professor Pollock's essay "What should a Classical Library of >>> India be?" (written for *The Loeb Classical Library and Its Progeny. >>> Proceedings of the First James Loeb Biennial Conference*, edited by >>> Jeffrey Henderson and Richard Thomas, 63?84. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard U. >>> Press, 2020. Available at: >>> https://sheldonpollock.org/archive/pollock_loeb_2020.pdf). >>> >>> His essay shows that every part of this project is integral to its >>> conception, including scholarship, philology, pedagogy, translation, >>> publication, design, printing and dissemination. Right down to the >>> typefaces, everything is part of a plan, with an eye to the future. >>> >>> Since all parties involved are superb at what they do, and since we have >>> so many luminous volumes already in our hands to prove it, let us focus our >>> collective energies on helping resolve the current contretemps speedily >>> and gracefully. It can be done. Especially as educators, we cannot allow >>> pessimism to get the better of us. >>> >>> Texts that have survived and brightened the admittedly often >>> disheartening human condition for centuries can surely make it through and >>> past this transient misunderstanding among our learned colleagues and >>> friends. >>> >>> With all good wishes, >>> >>> Ananya. >>> >>> *Ananya Vajpeyi, Ph.D.* >>> *Fellow, **Centre for the Study of Developing Societies* >>> *29 Rajpur Rd., Civil Lines* >>> *New Delhi 110054, INDIA* >>> *EMAIL: vajpeyi at csds.in * >>> *CSDS BIO: http://www.csds.in/faculty_ananya_vajpeyi.htm >>> * >>> *RESEARCH PROJECT: https://www.nilgiri.ugent.be/team/ >>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:46?AM Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>> >>>> Attached please find my letter to the Provost at Harvard. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >>>> and >>>> Professor in the Graduate School >>>> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >>>> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Ananya Vajpeyi* >>> https://www.csds.in/ananya_vajpeyi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Prof. dr. J.A. 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My interest lies primarily in the background of a range of terms that later came to be used technically in the ny?ya schools. With thanks in advance for shared wisdom, Matthew Matthew Kapstein EPHE, Paris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smith.caley at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 23:16:53 2024 From: smith.caley at gmail.com (Caley Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 18:16:53 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vedic searches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Matthew, In terms of breadth, I think the Vishva Bandhu concordance remains the most complete (Vishva Bandhu, Bhim Dev, S. Bhaskaran Nair (eds.), *Vaidika-Pad?nukrama-Ko?a: A Vedic Word-Concordance*, Vishveshvaranand Vedic Research Institute, Hoshiarpur, 1963?1965.) But there are text specific concordances (like the one of the RV by Lubotsky) which are more recent and easy to navigate. Best, Caley On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:05?PM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > As one who has little background in Vedic studies, but now wishes to > conduct some lexical research in the Vedic corpus, i would be most grateful > for your help with two questions: > > What are the best ways, if there is a way, to search a given lexical item > throughout the corpus, or at least a large portion thereof? > > What tools would you recommend to trace the evolution in the use of a > lexical item diachronically throughout the corpus? > > These are of course two faces of the same query, but the first concerns > the raw search for occurrences and the latter seeks historical > interpretation. My interest lies primarily in the background of a range of > terms that later came to be used technically in the ny?ya schools. > > With thanks in advance for shared wisdom, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > EPHE, Paris > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattkapstein at proton.me Thu Mar 7 08:55:45 2024 From: mattkapstein at proton.me (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 08:55:45 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vedic searches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks to those who have replied to my query on- and off-list. Your leads are very helpful. Matthew T. Kapstein Professor emeritus Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris Associate The University of Chicago Divinity School https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein https://vajrabookshop.com/product/the-life-and-work-of-auleshi/ https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501716218/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-i/#bookTabs=1 https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501771255/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-ii/#bookTabs=1 https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/60949 Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. On Thursday, March 7th, 2024 at 12:16 AM, Caley Smith wrote: > Dear Matthew, > > In terms of breadth, I think the Vishva Bandhu concordance remains the most complete (Vishva Bandhu, Bhim Dev, S. Bhaskaran Nair (eds.), Vaidika-Pad?nukrama-Ko?a: A Vedic Word-Concordance, Vishveshvaranand Vedic Research Institute, Hoshiarpur, 1963?1965.) But there are text specific concordances (like the one of the RV by Lubotsky) which are more recent and easy to navigate. > > Best, > Caley > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:05?PM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> As one who has little background in Vedic studies, but now wishes to conduct some lexical research in the Vedic corpus, i would be most grateful for your help with two questions: >> >> What are the best ways, if there is a way, to search a given lexical item throughout the corpus, or at least a large portion thereof? >> >> What tools would you recommend to trace the evolution in the use of a lexical item diachronically throughout the corpus? >> >> These are of course two faces of the same query, but the first concerns the raw search for occurrences and the latter seeks historical interpretation. My interest lies primarily in the background of a range of terms that later came to be used technically in the ny?ya schools. >> >> With thanks in advance for shared wisdom, >> >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> EPHE, Paris >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Thu Mar 7 09:14:37 2024 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:14:37 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Statement Regarding the Murty Classical Library of India In-Reply-To: References: <521FAC3D-8659-4574-98E4-1A9A01FC4AF2@gmail.com> <0cc63496-34c6-4d09-97a6-6196ba1587d8@mcgill.ca> Message-ID: I agree with you wholeheartedly Andrew about the need to carve out some actual, concrete autonomy, and I think it's a very important point. Granted also what you point out about the academic institutions' (and their administrators') overwhelming cynicism, we still at least have the power as a community (don't we?) to generate some bad press for MCLI/HUP's wrong turn. Even if it affects nothing on the ground, it would at least give form to our recognition of a distinction between the original vision and what seems to be emerging now. Maybe we could do a collective, open letter? At least the Wire would probably report on it. We could use Bob's letter to the provost as a basic model and then incorporate other feedback from list members, and then collect as many signatures as possible (being careful not to impugn anyone personally who has not had the chance to present their case, as Brendan sagely advises us). Do people think this is worth doing? On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 1:28?AM Andrew Ollett via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > I very rarely write to this list to simply voice an opinion, but I think I > will break my own rule in this case, because the question has arisen of > what we, as scholars, can do in a situation like this. The answer, I am > sorry to say, is not very much. That is by design. MCLI is published by > Harvard University Press, which, while technically a non-profit, is a > non-profit the same way that Harvard University is, with an endowment > bigger than the GDP of most countries. The press is a business, concerned > with brands, markets, and intellectual property. When there was a general > editor, it was somebody's job to care about scholarly matters, but that has > not been the case at MCLI for several years now. The big picture is that, > once the decision was made to house MCLI at a big, rich, prestigious, > complex, institution, "their reality is the one that matters" (as someone > closely involved with MCLI once said). The editors and translators of the > series ultimately work for the institution, as HUP has demonstrated on > multiple occasions, most recently with the firing of the entire editorial > board. > > That is unfortunate, especially because I had hoped that a big endowment > would free the series from some of the caprices of patronage that we might > have worried about (remember CSL?). But even if the "portfolio" of MCLI has > a lot of money attached to it, it's still not a portfolio that we, the > scholars, have any control over whatsoever, or any right to. (Indeed, I had > to sign away all of my rights for my translation of *L?l?va?*, and I > would bet that the same is true for every other book published in the > series.) > > If we, the scholarly community, ever undertake a project like this again, > I would hope that its future would depend to a much greater extent on the > people who actually do the scholarly work. > > Andrew > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 5:01?PM Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Thanks for drawing attention to this disturbing situation. >> While profoundly appreciative and grateful for the monumental >> achievements of MCLI so far, thanks to the generous funding and the >> engagement of sincere scholarship and administration, I fully support both >> points brought forward by Brendan. >> Perhaps so, but it is indeed questionable whether anything can be >> expected by writing to the current interim provost or any senior >> administrator at Harvard University, who, no doubt having more pressing >> concerns at present, are only in the most formal way "ultimately >> responsible" for what happens according to MCLI's self-adopted and >> self-funded mission https://www.murtylibrary.com/about/our-mission >> >> >> >> All best, >> >> Jan Houben >> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 15:33, Brendan Gillon via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> I too agree that the Murty Classical Library of India is a valuable book >>> series and its discontinuation would be a loss to Indology. I would be >>> happy to sign a letter to that effect. >>> >>> I would in no circumstances sign a letter censuring someone without >>> having heard the accused person's side of the story. It is a fundamental >>> principle of law: `audi alteram partem' (`let the other side be heard'). >>> >>> Cordially yours, >>> >>> Brendan Gillon >>> >>> >>> On 3/5/24 02:20, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> >>> This is a stain on Professor Parimal Patil and on Harvard University. I >>> do hope the Provost of Harvard will set the matter right. >>> >>> Asko Parpola, Professor Emeritus of South Asian Studies, University of >>> Helsinki >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4. Mar 2024, at 20.58, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is deeply disturbing although, alas, hardly surprising. It >>> reflects, no doubt ,political interference with this groundbreaking and >>> outstanding scholarly series. List members should add their voices to those >>> of the former members of the editorial board. >>> >>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit Emeritus >>> and >>> Joint Editor of the South Asia Across the Disciplines Publication Series >>> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies >>> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:29?AM, Archana Venkatesan via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Respected Colleagues, >>> >>> With apologies for cross-posting, please see the attached communication >>> from the former editors of the Murty Classical Library of India. >>> >>> Archana >>> >>> -- >>> *"When writers die they become books, which is, after all, not too bad >>> an incarnation."* Jorge Luis Borges >>> >>> Archana Venkatesan >>> >>> (archana.faculty.ucdavis.edu >>> >>> ) >>> Graduate Advisor, Graduate Program in the Study of Religion >>> >>> (2022-2024) >>> *Professor, Religious Studies and Comparative Literature* >>> Phone: 530-754-2821 (Office) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca >>> Department of Linguistics >>> McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 >>> 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield >>> Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 >>> H3A 1A7 CANADA >>> >>> webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Jan E.M. Houben* >> >> Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology >> >> *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* >> >> ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) >> >> *Sciences historiques et philologiques * >> >> Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) >> >> *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * >> >> *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben >> * >> >> *https://www.classicalindia.info* >> >> >> LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission >> >> et transformations d'un savoir scientifique >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!PvDODwlR4mBZyAb0!VRoFhlGaTHSMWZrn2rTDcvTLVPiRBIzl7uhjRqSLi4ShVFHnQrCO1dXUbEIuSk1fVYkViLEksH_54ukz4LZ1He0GwDDe$ > -- Jesse Knutson PhD Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i, M?noa 461 Spalding E io ch?avea d?error la testa cinta, dissi: ?Maestro, che ? quel ch?i? odo? e che gent? ? che par nel duol s? vinta? 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My interest lies primarily in the background of a range of > terms that later came to be used technically in the ny?ya schools. > > With thanks in advance for shared wisdom, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > EPHE, Paris > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.wujastyk at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 22:25:38 2024 From: d.wujastyk at gmail.com (Dagmar Wujastyk) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:25:38 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?diagram_of_v=C4=81stupuru=E1=B9=A3a_on_manu?= =?utf-8?q?scripts?= Message-ID: Dear colleagues, We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by Kramrisch)? 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Does anyone know whether this image/diagram is found > in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? (or another work?) or whether this > is a modern drawing (perhaps by Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on > manuscripts, can anyone tell me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any > other information on them? > Any pointer would be welcome. > Many thanks, > Dagmar Wujastyk > <73821_0043.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacob at fabularasa.dk Fri Mar 8 00:08:41 2024 From: jacob at fabularasa.dk (jacob at fabularasa.dk) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 01:08:41 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?diagram_of_v=C4=81stupuru=E1=B9=A3a_on_manu?= =?utf-8?q?scripts?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <340af94630b132c278ee09657758c578@fabularasa.dk> Hi Dagmar, Are you only looking for the provenance of the attached image, or are you looking for manuscript illustrations of v?stupuru?ama??alas in general? If you are looking for the latter, I am aware of an uninscribed example in a 17th-century Nepalese manuscript at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art: https://collections.lacma.org/node/242707 Best regards, Jacob Schmidt-Madsen Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY skrev den 2024-03-07 23:57: > Unfortunately Volwahsen only states "from an old Indian manual of > architecture" - at least in the English version. I don't have a copy > of the German version. > > All the best, > Dagmar > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:51, Hock, Hans Henrich > wrote: > >> Perhaps this might help in tracking the origin of the drawing? >> >> Volwahsen, Andreas (1968): _Indien. Bauten der Hindus, Buddhisten >> und Jains_. Fribourg. S. 44 >> >> Best wishes, >> >> HHH >> >>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 16:25, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image >>> attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this >>> image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? >>> (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by >>> Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on manuscripts, can anyone tell >>> me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any other information on >>> them? >>> Any pointer would be welcome. >>> Many thanks, >>> Dagmar Wujastyk >>> <73821_0043.jpg> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ma-53746-WEB.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 319381 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 00:09:51 2024 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:09:51 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?VMSBcsSBLW5hbWFza8SBcmEtZWthdmnhuYPFm2F0?= =?utf-8?q?i-stotram?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The worst two editions by far are the ones that have been input and have thus become widely available digitally. This is unfortunate, especially so since these may unknowingly be regarded as "the" Sanskrit of this text. So I have prepared a more reliable digital edition. In the absence of any palm-leaf manuscript, I have had to simply make use of a few more exemplars of the Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text found in the *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra* than were available to Martin Willson by 1986. The first digital edition, from 2004, available from the Digital Sanskrit Buddhist Canon site in devan?gar? ( https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/631/2758) and in roman ( https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/113/806), was input from Janardan Shastri Pandey's edition in his 1994 *Bauddhastotrasamgraha*. Pandey is an excellent Sanskrit pandit, and he emended what he could (in parentheses), but the manuscript he drew from was obviously very corrupt. In his *?ryat?r?sragdhar?stotram & T?r?namask?raikavi??atistotram* published the following year, 1995, he provided a greatly improved edition. As comparison of his readings show, he had access to Wayman's 1959 edition that was reprinted in his 1984 book, *Buddhist Insight*, in the interim. The second digital edition, from 2020, available from GRETIL ( https://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/corpustei/transformations/html/sa_namaskAraikaviMzatistotra.htm), was input from Godefroy de Blonay's 1895 edition, which was based on two late paper manuscripts. The understandable inadequacy of this pioneering edition has long been known, yet it is not as bad as the first digital edition, described above. On the basis of the very old Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text found in the *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra*, in comparison with de Blonay's edition and the TIbetan translation (Toh. 438), Alex Wayman was able to produce a good edition in 1959 (*Journal of the Bihar Research Society*, vol. XLV, pp. 36-43). He used only the sDe dge recension for the Tibetan transcription. Martin Willson used several more recensions, and produced a very good edition in his 1986 book, *In Praise of T?r?*. I found only one reading that I regard as an error in his edition: abhivartinam rather than correct abhivartin?m in verse 26d. Based on additional sources, I chose equally correct alternative readings in several places. This stotra was brought to my attention by a friend who has long worked with the Tibetan sources. After then seeing how faulty the widely used Sanskrit edition from the Digital Sanskrit Buddhist Canon is, I undertook this digital edition. I would be happy to have it uploaded to Archive.org. In the meantime, it can be found here: https://www.academia.edu/115937238/Tara_namaskaraikavimsati_stotram Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, USA On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 2:55?PM David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > Is there an edition the *T?r?-namask?ra-ekavi??ati-stotram* that is based > on one or more old palm-leaf manuscripts? Or is one or more old palm-leaf > manuscripts that have this stotra now available? > > I know of six existing editions: > 1. Godefroy de Blonay, 1895, based on two late paper manuscripts. > 2. Alex Wayman, 1959, based on the Sanskrit transcription of this stotra > found in the third chapter of the Tibetan translation of the > *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra*, Toh. 726, in > comparison with de Blonay's pioneering edition. > 3. Lokesh Chandra, 1975, based on a Sanskrit and Tibetan xylograph from > Mongolia, apparently in comparison with de Blonay's edition, according to > my comparison. > 4. Martin Willson, 1985, based on the Sanskrit transcription in the > *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra* edited from several > recensions, in comparison with de Blonay's and Wayman's editions, and a > quadrilingual blockprint from Mongolia. > 5. Janardan Shastri Pandey, 1984 (in *Bauddha-stotra-sa**?**graha*), > apparently based on a late and very corrupt paper manuscript, according to > my comparison. Source not stated, as far as I could see in his Hindi front > matter; but I cannot understand Hindi. > 6. Janardanshastry Pandey, 1985, apparently based on his previous edition > as much improved by comparison with Wayman's edition, according to my > comparison. Source not stated, as far as I could see in his Hindi front > matter; but I cannot understand Hindi. > > Of these, Willson's edition is quite good, but there are still places that > could be, and should be, clarified by comparison with one or more old > palm-leaf manuscripts. > > Thank you. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.wujastyk at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 00:20:19 2024 From: d.wujastyk at gmail.com (Dagmar Wujastyk) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:20:19 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?diagram_of_v=C4=81stupuru=E1=B9=A3a_on_manu?= =?utf-8?q?scripts?= In-Reply-To: <340af94630b132c278ee09657758c578@fabularasa.dk> References: <340af94630b132c278ee09657758c578@fabularasa.dk> Message-ID: That's a nice manuscript. Thanks, Jacob. Generally, I would like to know when such diagrams start to appear and how they connect to the text. I'm assuming textual description predates the image. Or is it quite standard for texts like the Brhatsamhit? to be illustrated/ to contain technical diagrams? All the best, Dagmar On Thu., Mar. 7, 2024, 17:12 jacob--- via INDOLOGY, < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi Dagmar, > > Are you only looking for the provenance of the attached image, or are > you looking for manuscript illustrations of v?stupuru?ama??alas in > general? > > If you are looking for the latter, I am aware of an uninscribed example > in a 17th-century Nepalese manuscript at the Los Angeles County Museum > of Art: > > https://collections.lacma.org/node/242707 > > Best regards, > Jacob Schmidt-Madsen > > Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY skrev den 2024-03-07 23:57: > > Unfortunately Volwahsen only states "from an old Indian manual of > > architecture" - at least in the English version. I don't have a copy > > of the German version. > > > > All the best, > > Dagmar > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:51, Hock, Hans Henrich > > wrote: > > > >> Perhaps this might help in tracking the origin of the drawing? > >> > >> Volwahsen, Andreas (1968): _Indien. Bauten der Hindus, Buddhisten > >> und Jains_. Fribourg. S. 44 > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> HHH > >> > >>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 16:25, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear colleagues, > >>> We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image > >>> attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this > >>> image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? > >>> (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by > >>> Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on manuscripts, can anyone tell > >>> me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any other information on > >>> them? > >>> Any pointer would be welcome. > >>> Many thanks, > >>> Dagmar Wujastyk > >>> <73821_0043.jpg> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> INDOLOGY mailing list > >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > >>> > >> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or is it quite standard for texts like the Brhatsamhit? to be illustrated/ to contain technical diagrams? > All the best, > Dagmar > > On Thu., Mar. 7, 2024, 17:12 jacob--- via INDOLOGY, > wrote: >> Hi Dagmar, >> >> Are you only looking for the provenance of the attached image, or are >> you looking for manuscript illustrations of v?stupuru?ama??alas in >> general? >> >> If you are looking for the latter, I am aware of an uninscribed example >> in a 17th-century Nepalese manuscript at the Los Angeles County Museum >> of Art: >> >> https://collections.lacma.org/node/242707 >> >> Best regards, >> Jacob Schmidt-Madsen >> >> Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY skrev den 2024-03-07 23:57: >> > Unfortunately Volwahsen only states "from an old Indian manual of >> > architecture" - at least in the English version. I don't have a copy >> > of the German version. >> > >> > All the best, >> > Dagmar >> > >> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:51, Hock, Hans Henrich > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps this might help in tracking the origin of the drawing? >> >> >> >> Volwahsen, Andreas (1968): _Indien. Bauten der Hindus, Buddhisten >> >> und Jains_. Fribourg. S. 44 >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> HHH >> >> >> >>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 16:25, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Dear colleagues, >> >>> We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image >> >>> attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this >> >>> image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? >> >>> (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by >> >>> Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on manuscripts, can anyone tell >> >>> me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any other information on >> >>> them? >> >>> Any pointer would be welcome. >> >>> Many thanks, >> >>> Dagmar Wujastyk >> >>> <73821_0043.jpg> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >> >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >>> >> >> >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list >> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The speakers for our colloquium are as follows: *Afsar Mohammad* | *Vernacular Sufi Texts and Hindu-Muslim Contexts* April 3, 2024?| 16:00?17:30 BST / 11:00?12:30 EDT / 20:30?22:00 IST *Purnima Dhavan* | *Resisting Religious Labels in Early Modern Punjab: Why Place Matters* April 4, 2024 | 18:00?19:30 BST / 13:00?14:00 EDT / 22:30?00:00 IST *Abdul Manan Bhat* | *Postures of Tradition: Corporeality and Islamic Ethics in Modern Urdu & Persian Poetry* April 5, 2024 | ?16:00?17:30 BST / 11:00?12:30 EDT / 20:30?22:00 IST *Kashshaf Ghani* | *Sufism and Religious Interactions from South Asia* April 8, 2024 | 15:00?16:30 BST / 10:00?11:30 EDT / 19:30?21:00 IST *Tilak Parekh* | *Religious Leadership in Interfaith Interactions* April 9, 2024 | 16:00?17:30 BST / 11:00?12:30 EDT / 20:30?22:00 IST *Sumaira Nawaz* | *Reform Unbound: Afghanistan's *Sir?j-ul A?hb?r* (1911-19) and its Global Publics* April 10, 2024 | 16:00?17:30 BST / 11:00?12:30 EDT / 20:30?22:00 IST *Supriya Gandhi* | *Persianate Hinduism in Colonial India: Revisiting Rammohun Roy?s* Tuhfat al-muwahhidin April 12, 2024 | 16:00?17:30 BST / 11:00?12:30 EDT / 20:30?22:00 IST *Website*: www.interfaith.cam.ac.uk/south-asia-24 *Registration Link*: https://forms.office.com/e/Z4kN3ahf1i We envision our colloquium to be brainstorming sessions for examining how interreligious interactions are analysed and theorised in diverse disciplines today, and in what ways do historical sources and ethnographic data from South Asia elaborate such interactions. Some of our presenters have pre-circulated reading materials that would be helpful in understanding their arguments. If you would like to consult these reading materials, please email: *trinbarua at gmail.com* . ?We eagerly look forward to your participation in our colloquium. Sincerely, Hina Khalid (University of Cambridge) Pranav Prakash (University of Oxford) Ankur Barua (University of Cambridge) Pranav Prakash Junior Research Fellow, Christ Church, University of Oxford Senior Mellon Fellow in Critical Bibliography, Rare Book School, University of Virginia Director of Studies for Asian and Middle Eastern Studies, Christ Church, University of Oxford Trustee, American Printing History Association Website | LinkedIn | X Twitter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:09?PM David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > The worst two editions by far are the ones that have been input and have > thus become widely available digitally. This is unfortunate, especially so > since these may unknowingly be regarded as "the" Sanskrit of this text. So > I have prepared a more reliable digital edition. In the absence of any > palm-leaf manuscript, I have had to simply make use of a few more exemplars > of the Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text found in the > *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra* than were available > to Martin Willson by 1986. > > The first digital edition, from 2004, available from the Digital Sanskrit > Buddhist Canon site in devan?gar? ( > https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/631/2758) and in roman ( > https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/113/806), was input from > Janardan Shastri Pandey's edition in his 1994 *Bauddhastotrasamgraha*. > Pandey is an excellent Sanskrit pandit, and he emended what he could (in > parentheses), but the manuscript he drew from was obviously very corrupt. > In his *?ryat?r?sragdhar?stotram & T?r?namask?raikavi??atistotram* > published the following year, 1995, he provided a greatly improved edition. > As comparison of his readings show, he had access to Wayman's 1959 edition > that was reprinted in his 1984 book, *Buddhist Insight*, in the interim. > > The second digital edition, from 2020, available from GRETIL ( > https://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/corpustei/transformations/html/sa_namaskAraikaviMzatistotra.htm), > was input from Godefroy de Blonay's 1895 edition, which was based on two > late paper manuscripts. The understandable inadequacy of this pioneering > edition has long been known, yet it is not as bad as the first digital > edition, described above. > > On the basis of the very old Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text > found in the *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra*, in > comparison with de Blonay's edition and the TIbetan translation (Toh. 438), > Alex Wayman was able to produce a good edition in 1959 (*Journal of the > Bihar Research Society*, vol. XLV, pp. 36-43). He used only the sDe dge > recension for the Tibetan transcription. Martin Willson used several more > recensions, and produced a very good edition in his 1986 book, *In Praise > of T?r?*. I found only one reading that I regard as an error in his > edition: abhivartinam rather than correct abhivartin?m in verse 26d. > Based on additional sources, I chose equally correct alternative readings > in several places. > > This stotra was brought to my attention by a friend who has long worked > with the Tibetan sources. After then seeing how faulty the widely used > Sanskrit edition from the Digital Sanskrit Buddhist Canon is, I undertook > this digital edition. I would be happy to have it uploaded to Archive.org. > In the meantime, it can be found here: > https://www.academia.edu/115937238/Tara_namaskaraikavimsati_stotram > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, USA > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Secondly, three new etexts have been added to the Muktabodha digital library from the collaborative project between the Institut Francais de Pondichery and the Muktabodha Indological Research Institute. https://muktalib7.com/DL_CATALOG_ROOT/digital_library_secure_entry.htm The three new etexts are: 1) IFP manuscript bundle 27544 ?ivotsavavidhi? containing manuscripts: dhanurm?sap?j?vidhi k?ttik?doopanir?aya navar?triutsavavidhi k?mik?gama - skandasa??i-utsava ekak?aranigha??u rak?oghnahoma mudr?lak?a?a ?o?a?opac?ra dravy?hutivacana - sakal?gamasa?graha vi??ulibreofficvatidravy?huti cinty?gama yogaja (utsavavidhi) s?k?m?gama (utsava) maku??gama (?ivotsava) pr?ya?cittavidhi ????hap?r?rmavidhi - k?ra?a k?mik?gama - ?ivotsava 2) IFP manuscript bundle 32446 ?gamavacanasa?graha? A collection of different topics from different Agamas. This bundle starts with abhi?ekadravya and later it describes many dhy?nas, like re?uk?dhy?na, k?l?dhy?na, somaskandadhy?na, trimurt?dhy?na and many more from different agamas like K?ra?a, Sant?na and Sahasra. It also mentions about m?tyu??nti and pradak?i?a details at the end. 3) IFP manuscript 30989 titled "?atvab?dh?vidh?nanam," accompanied by an explanatory commentary known as "Tat(t)vam?l?vy?khy?," both authored by ?e?a??str?. The primary focus of the text is to expound upon the 36 tattvas of creation as taught in the ?iv?gamas. Simultaneously, it serves as an one to Lord N?r?ya?a. Notably, the title underscores the significance of the letter "?a," which the author contends is derived from the name of Lord N?r?ya?a. His interpretation establishes that the name actually refers to God ?iva and not to Vi??u as the name is commonly associated with. 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I am wondering if pa?c?cchar?ra could be the word I am looking for. By the way, since the relative (un)originality of MW data vs. PW/pw is occasionally at stake on this forum, I found it interesting to see that ka?eru(k?) in the meaning 'back(bone)' seems not to be recorded in pw (if I can rely on NWS) whereas MW does have a relevant entry. Best wishes, Arlo Griffiths -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 04:49:49 2024 From: mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 10:19:49 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for PDFs Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, A graduate student is struggling to locate the following works by Prof Ashok Aklujkar. Any help would be much appreciated: - *The Philosophy of Bhart?hari's TRIK????*, Ashok Narhar Aklujkar, PhD. Dissertation, Harvard University, 1970. - "Pr?m??ya in the Philosophy of the grammarians" in *Studies in Indology* (Professor Rasik Vihari Joshi Felicitation Volume), edited by Avanindra Kumar et al., New Delhi: Shree Publishing house, 1989, pp. 15-28. - "Bhart?hari's Concept of the Veda" in *P??ini and the Veda*, edited by Madhav Deshpande (Panels of the VIIth World Sanskrit Conference, Vol. V). Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1991. pp. 1-18. We shall be grateful. Thanks. Mrinal Kaul ----- Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in www.hss.iitb.ac.in/en/faculty-profile/mrinal-kaul https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mrinal Kaul ----- Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in www.hss.iitb.ac.in/en/faculty-profile/mrinal-kaul https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 10:19, Mrinal Kaul wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > A graduate student is struggling to locate the following works by Prof > Ashok Aklujkar. Any help would be much appreciated: > > - *The Philosophy of Bhart?hari's TRIK????*, Ashok Narhar Aklujkar, PhD. > Dissertation, Harvard University, 1970. > > - "Pr?m??ya in the Philosophy of the grammarians" in *Studies in Indology* > (Professor Rasik Vihari Joshi Felicitation Volume), edited by Avanindra > Kumar et al., New Delhi: Shree Publishing house, 1989, pp. 15-28. > > - "Bhart?hari's Concept of the Veda" in *P??ini and the Veda*, edited by > Madhav Deshpande (Panels of the VIIth World Sanskrit Conference, Vol. V). > Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1991. pp. 1-18. > > We shall be grateful. Thanks. > > Mrinal Kaul > ----- > Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) > Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) > Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) > Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA > Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) > Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) > email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in > www.hss.iitb.ac.in/en/faculty-profile/mrinal-kaul > https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walter.slaje at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 07:11:09 2024 From: walter.slaje at gmail.com (Walter Slaje) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 08:11:09 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?pa=C5=9Bc=C4=81cchar=C4=ABra_and_synonyms_f?= =?utf-8?q?or_back=28bone=29?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Arlo, you can look it up under the entry "kaseru" (= "R?ckgrat"). While PW records the word under ka?eru with a reference to the alternate spelling "kaseru" (as a rule adopted by MW), pw has apparently decided that only kaseru must be the correct spelling. However, for reasons unknown, a reference to the discarded spelling 'ka?eru' was omitted by B?thlingk. Best wishes, Walter Am So., 10. M?rz 2024 um 05:02 Uhr schrieb Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > Learned colleagues, > > Can anyone help me understand what is intended with pa?c?cchar?ra in > connection with elephant cows in the following Ko?akalpataru verse? > > pa?c?cchar?re kari??? striy?? tu > bhavej jar?yau carame'dhun?rthe | > ?rv?gbhave bhedyasama? vadanti > dantacchade pu?si tath?dhara? sy?t || 83 || > > Actually I am looking for potential synonyms of 'back(bone)' other than > those found in ko?a passages such as these: > > - AK 2.5.667 sy?c char?r?sthni ka?k?la? pr???h?sthni tu ka?eruk? > - AbhCM 627ab kap?lakarparau tulyau p???hasy?sthni ka?eruk? | > - AbhiRM 632?634 asth?ni dh?tuk?kasakuly?ni bhavanti tuly?ni || 632 || > ?ar?rasy?sthi ka?k?la? tath? sy?d asthipa?jaram | ?iraso'sthi karo?i? sy?t > kap?la? ?akala? ca tat || 633 || ??kh?sthi nalaka? prokta? p???hasy?sthi > kaseru ca | > - ?R? asthi kulya? k?kasa? ca ka?k?lo dehak?kase | ka?eruk? ka?eru? str? > p???h?sthani bhaved dvayam || > > And more particularly words beginning with pa?c?t. I am wondering if > pa?c?cchar?ra could be the word I am looking for. > > By the way, since the relative (un)originality of MW data vs. PW/pw is > occasionally at stake on this forum, I found it interesting to see that > ka?eru(k?) in the meaning 'back(bone)' seems not to be recorded in pw (if I > can rely on NWS) whereas MW does have a relevant entry. > > Best wishes, > > Arlo Griffiths > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 07:37:23 2024 From: mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:07:23 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for PDFs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to both Dr Marco Ferrante and Prof Johannes Bronkhorst. I now have what my student required. Thanks so much and I really appreciate the quick help of colleagues and friends. Mrinal ----- Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in www.hss.iitb.ac.in/en/faculty-profile/mrinal-kaul https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 10:19, Mrinal Kaul wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > A graduate student is struggling to locate the following works by Prof > Ashok Aklujkar. Any help would be much appreciated: > > - *The Philosophy of Bhart?hari's TRIK????*, Ashok Narhar Aklujkar, PhD. > Dissertation, Harvard University, 1970. > > - "Pr?m??ya in the Philosophy of the grammarians" in *Studies in Indology* > (Professor Rasik Vihari Joshi Felicitation Volume), edited by Avanindra > Kumar et al., New Delhi: Shree Publishing house, 1989, pp. 15-28. > > - "Bhart?hari's Concept of the Veda" in *P??ini and the Veda*, edited by > Madhav Deshpande (Panels of the VIIth World Sanskrit Conference, Vol. V). > Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1991. pp. 1-18. > > We shall be grateful. 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URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 07:39:31 2024 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:09:31 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?diagram_of_v=C4=81stupuru=E1=B9=A3a_on_manu?= =?utf-8?q?scripts?= In-Reply-To: References: <340af94630b132c278ee09657758c578@fabularasa.dk> Message-ID: Chapter 252 of Matsya Purana mentions birth of Vaastu Purusha from the sweat of the brow of ?iva in the fight with Andhaka. Chapter 253 gives the *procedure to draw the figure*, but the figure is recommended to be drawn on the floor in these verses. https://sa.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D/%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%83_%E0%A5%A8%E0%A5%AB%E0%A5%A9 ???????????????? ??????????? ? ???????? ??????? *???* ?????? *???????* ????? ? ?? ???.?? ??????????????*???????* *?????????????* ??????? ?????????*??????* ??????????????? ?? ???.?? ?????????? ???????? ???????? ???? ??? ??????? *???* *??????* ?????????????????????? ?? ???.?? On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:29?PM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > For the origin of the idea, not the diagram, of v?stupuru?a, see: > > Bakker, Hans, 2007. Human sacrifice (puru?amedha), construction sacrifice > and the origin of the idea of the 'man of the homestead' (v?stupuru?a). > > Pp. 179-194 in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.), The strange world of human > sacrifice. Leuven: Peeters. > > Best wishes, Asko > > On 8. Mar 2024, at 2.20, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > That's a nice manuscript. Thanks, Jacob. Generally, I would like to know > when such diagrams start to appear and how they connect to the text. I'm > assuming textual description predates the image. Or is it quite standard > for texts like the Brhatsamhit? to be illustrated/ to contain technical > diagrams? > All the best, > Dagmar > > On Thu., Mar. 7, 2024, 17:12 jacob--- via INDOLOGY, < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Hi Dagmar, >> >> Are you only looking for the provenance of the attached image, or are >> you looking for manuscript illustrations of v?stupuru?ama??alas in >> general? >> >> If you are looking for the latter, I am aware of an uninscribed example >> in a 17th-century Nepalese manuscript at the Los Angeles County Museum >> of Art: >> >> https://collections.lacma.org/node/242707 >> >> Best regards, >> Jacob Schmidt-Madsen >> >> Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY skrev den 2024-03-07 23:57: >> > Unfortunately Volwahsen only states "from an old Indian manual of >> > architecture" - at least in the English version. I don't have a copy >> > of the German version. >> > >> > All the best, >> > Dagmar >> > >> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:51, Hock, Hans Henrich >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps this might help in tracking the origin of the drawing? >> >> >> >> Volwahsen, Andreas (1968): _Indien. Bauten der Hindus, Buddhisten >> >> und Jains_. Fribourg. S. 44 >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> HHH >> >> >> >>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 16:25, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Dear colleagues, >> >>> We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image >> >>> attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this >> >>> image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? >> >>> (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by >> >>> Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on manuscripts, can anyone tell >> >>> me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any other information on >> >>> them? >> >>> Any pointer would be welcome. >> >>> Many thanks, >> >>> Dagmar Wujastyk >> >>> <73821_0043.jpg> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >> >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >>> >> >> >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list >> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:09?PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Chapter 252 of Matsya Purana mentions birth of Vaastu Purusha from the > sweat of the brow of ?iva in the fight with Andhaka. > > Chapter 253 gives the *procedure to draw the figure*, but the figure is > recommended to be drawn on the floor in these verses. > > > https://sa.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D/%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%83_%E0%A5%A8%E0%A5%AB%E0%A5%A9 > > ???????????????? ??????????? ? ???????? > ??????? *???* ?????? *???????* ????? ? ?? ???.?? > > ??????????????*???????* *?????????????* ??????? > ?????????*??????* ??????????????? ?? ???.?? > > > > > ?????????? ???????? ???????? ???? ??? > ??????? *???* *??????* ?????????????????????? ?? ???.?? > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 1:29?PM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> For the origin of the idea, not the diagram, of v?stupuru?a, see: >> >> Bakker, Hans, 2007. Human sacrifice (puru?amedha), construction >> sacrifice and the origin of the idea of the 'man of the homestead' >> (v?stupuru?a). >> >> Pp. 179-194 in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.), The strange world of human >> sacrifice. Leuven: Peeters. >> >> Best wishes, Asko >> >> On 8. Mar 2024, at 2.20, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> That's a nice manuscript. Thanks, Jacob. Generally, I would like to know >> when such diagrams start to appear and how they connect to the text. I'm >> assuming textual description predates the image. Or is it quite standard >> for texts like the Brhatsamhit? to be illustrated/ to contain technical >> diagrams? >> All the best, >> Dagmar >> >> On Thu., Mar. 7, 2024, 17:12 jacob--- via INDOLOGY, < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dagmar, >>> >>> Are you only looking for the provenance of the attached image, or are >>> you looking for manuscript illustrations of v?stupuru?ama??alas in >>> general? >>> >>> If you are looking for the latter, I am aware of an uninscribed example >>> in a 17th-century Nepalese manuscript at the Los Angeles County Museum >>> of Art: >>> >>> https://collections.lacma.org/node/242707 >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jacob Schmidt-Madsen >>> >>> Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY skrev den 2024-03-07 23:57: >>> > Unfortunately Volwahsen only states "from an old Indian manual of >>> > architecture" - at least in the English version. I don't have a copy >>> > of the German version. >>> > >>> > All the best, >>> > Dagmar >>> > >>> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:51, Hock, Hans Henrich >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Perhaps this might help in tracking the origin of the drawing? >>> >> >>> >> Volwahsen, Andreas (1968): _Indien. Bauten der Hindus, Buddhisten >>> >> und Jains_. Fribourg. S. 44 >>> >> >>> >> Best wishes, >>> >> >>> >> HHH >>> >> >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 16:25, Dagmar Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> We are all familiar with the diagram of the v?stupuru?a (image >>> >>> attached from Volwahsen 1969). Does anyone know whether this >>> >>> image/diagram is found in any manuscripts of the B?hatsamhit? >>> >>> (or another work?) or whether this is a modern drawing (perhaps by >>> >>> Kramrisch)? If this image occurs on manuscripts, can anyone tell >>> >>> me the date(s) of such manuscripts or any other information on >>> >>> them? >>> >>> Any pointer would be welcome. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Dagmar Wujastyk >>> >>> <73821_0043.jpg> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!5W8YQcXG-N5v-_iz2MDtVxSKFqPla7d2iJP6lTT7JwZ6_PDNaLPhXhDTKPkH-_fYFPYTYEdwDNG7aEt780uhlofPXSBd$ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > INDOLOGY mailing list >>> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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I have however observed many faults in the recitation. On Sat, 9 Mar 2024, 23:14 David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY, < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > An error in my "more reliable" digital edition was discovered by me last > night. Apologies to all who already downloaded it. The corrected version > was uploaded to Academia.edu last night, after I found the error. It is in > verse 11, p?da b: the incorrect "patala" instead of the correct "pa?ala". > Sorry! > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:09?PM David and Nancy Reigle > wrote: > >> The worst two editions by far are the ones that have been input and have >> thus become widely available digitally. This is unfortunate, especially so >> since these may unknowingly be regarded as "the" Sanskrit of this text. So >> I have prepared a more reliable digital edition. In the absence of any >> palm-leaf manuscript, I have had to simply make use of a few more exemplars >> of the Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text found in the >> *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra* than were available >> to Martin Willson by 1986. >> >> The first digital edition, from 2004, available from the Digital Sanskrit >> Buddhist Canon site in devan?gar? ( >> https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/631/2758) and in roman ( >> https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/113/806), was input from >> Janardan Shastri Pandey's edition in his 1994 *Bauddhastotrasamgraha*. >> Pandey is an excellent Sanskrit pandit, and he emended what he could (in >> parentheses), but the manuscript he drew from was obviously very corrupt. >> In his *?ryat?r?sragdhar?stotram & T?r?namask?raikavi??atistotram* >> published the following year, 1995, he provided a greatly improved edition. >> As comparison of his readings show, he had access to Wayman's 1959 edition >> that was reprinted in his 1984 book, *Buddhist Insight*, in the interim. >> >> The second digital edition, from 2020, available from GRETIL ( >> https://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/corpustei/transformations/html/sa_namaskAraikaviMzatistotra.htm), >> was input from Godefroy de Blonay's 1895 edition, which was based on two >> late paper manuscripts. The understandable inadequacy of this pioneering >> edition has long been known, yet it is not as bad as the first digital >> edition, described above. >> >> On the basis of the very old Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text >> found in the *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra*, in >> comparison with de Blonay's edition and the TIbetan translation (Toh. 438), >> Alex Wayman was able to produce a good edition in 1959 (*Journal of the >> Bihar Research Society*, vol. XLV, pp. 36-43). He used only the sDe dge >> recension for the Tibetan transcription. Martin Willson used several more >> recensions, and produced a very good edition in his 1986 book, *In >> Praise of T?r?*. I found only one reading that I regard as an error in >> his edition: abhivartinam rather than correct abhivartin?m in verse 26d. >> Based on additional sources, I chose equally correct alternative readings >> in several places. >> >> This stotra was brought to my attention by a friend who has long worked >> with the Tibetan sources. After then seeing how faulty the widely used >> Sanskrit edition from the Digital Sanskrit Buddhist Canon is, I undertook >> this digital edition. I would be happy to have it uploaded to Archive.org. >> In the meantime, it can be found here: >> https://www.academia.edu/115937238/Tara_namaskaraikavimsati_stotram >> >> Best regards, >> >> David Reigle >> Colorado, USA >> >>> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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MBH https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LJU88JkwmdNcKl6cwL9sEOXNDgurGSKp/view?usp=sharing Ram https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W_H-LZQx-PEt4Be641CSj6tTSQyofcjC/view?usp=sharing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khecari at yandex.ru Sun Mar 10 19:56:14 2024 From: khecari at yandex.ru (Evgeniya Desnitskaya) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 22:56:14 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?U8SBeWHhuYdhJ3MgY29tbWVudGFyeQ==?= Message-ID: <49331710100410@mail.yandex.ru> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com Sun Mar 10 23:32:10 2024 From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 23:32:10 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?pa=C5=9Bc=C4=81cchar=C4=ABra_and_synonyms_f?= =?utf-8?q?or_back=28bone=29?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Walter, Thanks a lot for setting me straight on kaseru. My question remains about pa?c?cchar?ra and elephants. (I withdraw the addition 'cows'.) Who can help? I clarify that the background of my question is to help my student Zakariya Aminullah, who is not on this list, in his work on editing a Sanskrit-Old Javanese lexicon. It contains an entry provisionally edited thus: 362 Synonyms of Back pa?c?tkar?ya, pr???h??sthi?, pr???hya, ka?eru, ?a valaka?. The first term is problematic, ?a means iti, and the last term is the Old Javanese gloss. Best wishes, Arlo Griffiths ________________________________ From: Walter Slaje Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 7:11 AM To: Arlo Griffiths Cc: INDOLOGY Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] pa?c?cchar?ra and synonyms for back(bone) Dear Arlo, you can look it up under the entry "kaseru" (= "R?ckgrat"). While PW records the word under ka?eru with a reference to the alternate spelling "kaseru" (as a rule adopted by MW), pw has apparently decided that only kaseru must be the correct spelling. However, for reasons unknown, a reference to the discarded spelling 'ka?eru' was omitted by B?thlingk. Best wishes, Walter Am So., 10. M?rz 2024 um 05:02 Uhr schrieb Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY >: Learned colleagues, Can anyone help me understand what is intended with pa?c?cchar?ra in connection with elephant cows in the following Ko?akalpataru verse? pa?c?cchar?re kari??? striy?? tu bhavej jar?yau carame'dhun?rthe | ?rv?gbhave bhedyasama? vadanti dantacchade pu?si tath?dhara? sy?t || 83 || Actually I am looking for potential synonyms of 'back(bone)' other than those found in ko?a passages such as these: - AK 2.5.667 sy?c char?r?sthni ka?k?la? pr???h?sthni tu ka?eruk? - AbhCM 627ab kap?lakarparau tulyau p???hasy?sthni ka?eruk? | - AbhiRM 632?634 asth?ni dh?tuk?kasakuly?ni bhavanti tuly?ni || 632 || ?ar?rasy?sthi ka?k?la? tath? sy?d asthipa?jaram | ?iraso'sthi karo?i? sy?t kap?la? ?akala? ca tat || 633 || ??kh?sthi nalaka? prokta? p???hasy?sthi kaseru ca | - ?R? asthi kulya? k?kasa? ca ka?k?lo dehak?kase | ka?eruk? ka?eru? str? p???h?sthani bhaved dvayam || And more particularly words beginning with pa?c?t. I am wondering if pa?c?cchar?ra could be the word I am looking for. By the way, since the relative (un)originality of MW data vs. PW/pw is occasionally at stake on this forum, I found it interesting to see that ka?eru(k?) in the meaning 'back(bone)' seems not to be recorded in pw (if I can rely on NWS) whereas MW does have a relevant entry. Best wishes, Arlo Griffiths _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 04:08:21 2024 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 22:08:21 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?VMSBcsSBLW5hbWFza8SBcmEtZWthdmnhuYPFm2F0?= =?utf-8?q?i-stotram?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Shrikant, The recitation of stotras is important to a lot of people. YouTube has many stotras, and I think your observation of many faults in the recitation applies to the majority of them. You have set a fine example to emulate with your recitation of the verses of chapter 24 of the Lotus Sutra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikhfdFGwXp8&t=6s Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 6:01?AM Shrikant Bahulkar < shrikant.bahulkar at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear David, you did a great job. It is absolutely necessary to bring out a > good edition. The next step is the recitation of Stotras. While it is less > important for academics, there are several people who love to recite the > Stotras. I have however observed many faults in the recitation. > > On Sat, 9 Mar 2024, 23:14 David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY, < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> An error in my "more reliable" digital edition was discovered by me last >> night. Apologies to all who already downloaded it. The corrected version >> was uploaded to Academia.edu last night, after I found the error. It is in >> verse 11, p?da b: the incorrect "patala" instead of the correct "pa?ala". >> Sorry! >> >> Best regards, >> >> David Reigle >> Colorado, U.S.A. >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:09?PM David and Nancy Reigle >> wrote: >> >>> The worst two editions by far are the ones that have been input and have >>> thus become widely available digitally. This is unfortunate, especially so >>> since these may unknowingly be regarded as "the" Sanskrit of this text. So >>> I have prepared a more reliable digital edition. In the absence of any >>> palm-leaf manuscript, I have had to simply make use of a few more exemplars >>> of the Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit text found in the >>> *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra* than were >>> available to Martin Willson by 1986. >>> >>> The first digital edition, from 2004, available from the Digital >>> Sanskrit Buddhist Canon site in devan?gar? ( >>> https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/631/2758) and in roman ( >>> https://www.dsbcproject.org/canon-text/content/113/806), was input from >>> Janardan Shastri Pandey's edition in his 1994 *Bauddhastotrasamgraha*. >>> Pandey is an excellent Sanskrit pandit, and he emended what he could (in >>> parentheses), but the manuscript he drew from was obviously very corrupt. >>> In his *?ryat?r?sragdhar?stotram & T?r?namask?raikavi??atistotram* >>> published the following year, 1995, he provided a greatly improved edition. >>> As comparison of his readings show, he had access to Wayman's 1959 edition >>> that was reprinted in his 1984 book, *Buddhist Insight*, in the interim. >>> >>> The second digital edition, from 2020, available from GRETIL ( >>> https://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/corpustei/transformations/html/sa_namaskAraikaviMzatistotra.htm), >>> was input from Godefroy de Blonay's 1895 edition, which was based on two >>> late paper manuscripts. The understandable inadequacy of this pioneering >>> edition has long been known, yet it is not as bad as the first digital >>> edition, described above. >>> >>> On the basis of the very old Tibetan transliteration of the Sanskrit >>> text found in the *Sarva-tath?gata-m?t?-t?r?-vi?va-karma-bhava-tantra*, >>> in comparison with de Blonay's edition and the TIbetan translation (Toh. >>> 438), Alex Wayman was able to produce a good edition in 1959 (*Journal >>> of the Bihar Research Society*, vol. XLV, pp. 36-43). He used only the >>> sDe dge recension for the Tibetan transcription. Martin Willson used >>> several more recensions, and produced a very good edition in his 1986 book, *In >>> Praise of T?r?*. I found only one reading that I regard as an error in >>> his edition: abhivartinam rather than correct abhivartin?m in verse >>> 26d. Based on additional sources, I chose equally correct alternative >>> readings in several places. >>> >>> This stotra was brought to my attention by a friend who has long worked >>> with the Tibetan sources. After then seeing how faulty the widely used >>> Sanskrit edition from the Digital Sanskrit Buddhist Canon is, I undertook >>> this digital edition. I would be happy to have it uploaded to Archive.org. >>> In the meantime, it can be found here: >>> https://www.academia.edu/115937238/Tara_namaskaraikavimsati_stotram >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> David Reigle >>> Colorado, USA >>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[image: image.png] 1. r?g?-?r?-na?achai 2. ?? mahtra?(ra?)?ragn?-kare-chai / ?? gamaghtra??tragat?chrai - kare - The instruments used by the 'wrestler' are mentioned in similar artwork as: mugdar - a mace/club used in physical exercise n?la - heavy stone-ring used in weight-lifting exercises 3. male pole dancer/wrestler-acrobat 4. ???? - d?s? - female dancer with parasol 5. n??achai? - drummer 6. n??aka-l?? / -??? - female pole dancer Thank you. All the best, Patrick McCartney, PhD Phoenix Fellow 2023?26, HIroshima University, Japan ISRF Fellow 2022?23 - Universidade de Santiago de Compostela, Spain Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute, Nagoya, Japan Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian National University Skype / Zoom - psdmccartney Phone + Whatsapp + Line: +61410644259 Twitter - @psdmccartney @yogascapesinjap Yogascapes in Japan Academia Linkedin *bodhap?rvam calema* ;-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 1725146 bytes Desc: not available URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Mon Mar 11 07:52:58 2024 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H. (Herman)) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:52:58 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?dGl2aWpqxIEgaW4gxIB5xIFyYeG5g2dhc3V0dGE=?= Message-ID: Dear list members, in the first suyakkha?dha of the ?y?ra?gasutta the word tivijj? occurs three times. In Buddhism tevijja is a topic by itself (Tevijjasutta). I have, however, been unable to find more information about it in Jaina texts. In ?y?ra 1. 3. 2, su. 112 it is preceded by the following three terms, namely j?ti, vu??hi and s?ta (Skt sv?da). Could these three words be the topics headed by tivijj?? Or else, where can I find more information about tivijj? in Jaina texts? With kind regards, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com The A?oka Inscriptions: Analysing a corpus, New Delhi: Primus Books, 2023. https://primusbooks.com/ancient/the-asoka-inscriptions-analysing-a-corpus-by-herman-tieken/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you to her for that. She then provided > additional information about it: > > "For a new description of the Sanskrit MS of the STTS available see > Tanemura 2020: (75)ff. > > Tamenura, Ryugen ????. 2020. > ?Saravatath?gatatattvasa?graha????ve?a???????????????????????????????????????????. > ???? 69: 71?97. > > "Tanemura 2020 can be downloaded here: > > https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/chisangakuho/69/0/69_0071/_pdf/-char/ja > > It made no sense to me that there would be two very old manuscripts of > this text, both discovered independently in the same library, first by > Tucci in 1932 and then by David Snellgrove and John Brough in 1956. That > was one reason for my inquiry, the other being a wish to obtain scans of > this manuscript. The description of this manuscript by Tucci as being in > late Gupta characters, and the description of this manuscript by Horiuchi > as being in Siddham characters, led de Jong in his review (cited in my > opening post) to assume two different manuscripts. > > It is now clear that the manuscript reproduced in facsimile by Lokesh > Chandra and David Snellgrove in 1981 is the same as the manuscript that was > microfilmed by the Nepal-German Manuscript Preservation Project listed at > the link provided by Ryan Conlon. If no one has a scan of this manuscript, > now almost impossible to obtain from Kathmandu, or even a scan of the 1981 > published facsimile of it, I will try to scan this facsimile and post it. > > Thanks and best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The link is: https://archive.org/details/sarva-tathagata-tattva-sangraha Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 11:22?AM David and Nancy Reigle > wrote: First, thank you to Ryan Conlon for finding the listing of this manuscript that I could not find in the catalogue of the Nepalese-German Manuscript Cataloging Project, and for providing a link to it. This is very helpful. Next, as I suspected, there is only one old manuscript of the Sarvatath?gatatattvasa?graha, not two. Daisy Cheung made this clear in an off-list reply to me. Thank you to her for that. She then provided additional information about it: "For a new description of the Sanskrit MS of the STTS available see Tanemura 2020: (75)ff. Tamenura, Ryugen ????. 2020. ?Saravatath?gatatattvasa?graha????ve?a???????????????????????????????????????????. ???? 69: 71?97. "Tanemura 2020 can be downloaded here: https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/chisangakuho/69/0/69_0071/_pdf/-char/ja It made no sense to me that there would be two very old manuscripts of this text, both discovered independently in the same library, first by Tucci in 1932 and then by David Snellgrove and John Brough in 1956. That was one reason for my inquiry, the other being a wish to obtain scans of this manuscript. The description of this manuscript by Tucci as being in late Gupta characters, and the description of this manuscript by Horiuchi as being in Siddham characters, led de Jong in his review (cited in my opening post) to assume two different manuscripts. It is now clear that the manuscript reproduced in facsimile by Lokesh Chandra and David Snellgrove in 1981 is the same as the manuscript that was microfilmed by the Nepal-German Manuscript Preservation Project listed at the link provided by Ryan Conlon. 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Early-career scholars with a strong research background in the *history of astral sciences, particularly in Southeast or Central Asia* are encouraged to apply. Applications are also welcome from researchers with expertise in other geographical areas, provided their work aligns with ASTRA's core interests. *TO APPLY:* - Review *detailed information about ASTRA and the application process:* https://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/news-events/career/opportunities, under Postdoctoral Fellow (?Astral Science in Trans-Regional Asia?) - Submit your application by the deadline: *May 1, 2024 (23:59 CEST)* *QUESTIONS:* Contact Univ.-Prof. Dr Anuj Misra (amisra at mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de). *ASTRA encourages applications from highly motivated young scholars passionate about exploring the history of astral sciences in Asia.* With thanks and regards, AJ -- Anuj MISRA, Ph.D (he/him) *Senior Research Scholar* (January?March 2024) Dept. 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:53?AM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Years ago my wife acquired in London the finely carved wooden panel a scan > of which is attached. > We are at loss in trying to identify the central figure with vai??ava > marks, worshipped by the monkey > king (Hanuman? V?lin?) and the bird king (Garu?a? Ja??yus?). The > worshippers rather point to > R?ma, but the iconography of the object of their worship is unusual and > strange to me. > He wears a crown and the upper hands hold a three-leaved plant (?) and a > sword or dagger (?), > the lower hands hold garlands (?) or reins of chariot horse (?). 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Similar kinds of wood carving and images can be seen at Devi-Kothi, Himachal Pradesh, India. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 6:57?PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Asko, > > This looks like Chaturbhuja Vishnu at the center, flanked by Hanuman and > Garuda. In my family, we have an image of Krishna with Hanuman and Garuda > at his feet. I have seen this arrangement in some temples in Pune. > > Madhav > [image: image.png] > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:53?AM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Years ago my wife acquired in London the finely carved wooden panel a >> scan of which is attached. >> We are at loss in trying to identify the central figure with vai??ava >> marks, worshipped by the monkey >> king (Hanuman? V?lin?) and the bird king (Garu?a? Ja??yus?). The >> worshippers rather point to >> R?ma, but the iconography of the object of their worship is unusual and >> strange to me. >> He wears a crown and the upper hands hold a three-leaved plant (?) and a >> sword or dagger (?), >> the lower hands hold garlands (?) or reins of chariot horse (?). We look >> forward to expert opinions. >> >> Best regards, Asko >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Regards,* *Dr. Manish Rajan Walvekar* *Assistant Professor (Senior Grade) and Centre Coordinator* *Amrita Darshanam International Centre for Spiritual Studies* *Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham* *Bangalore.* || ????? ??????? ??? || -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Similar kinds of wood > carving and images can be seen at Devi-Kothi, Himachal Pradesh, India. > > Thanks. > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 6:57?PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Asko, >> >> This looks like Chaturbhuja Vishnu at the center, flanked by Hanuman and >> Garuda. In my family, we have an image of Krishna with Hanuman and Garuda >> at his feet. I have seen this arrangement in some temples in Pune. >> >> Madhav >> [image: image.png] >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, >> India >> >> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:53?AM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Years ago my wife acquired in London the finely carved wooden panel a >>> scan of which is attached. >>> We are at loss in trying to identify the central figure with vai??ava >>> marks, worshipped by the monkey >>> king (Hanuman? V?lin?) and the bird king (Garu?a? Ja??yus?). The >>> worshippers rather point to >>> R?ma, but the iconography of the object of their worship is unusual and >>> strange to me. >>> He wears a crown and the upper hands hold a three-leaved plant (?) and a >>> sword or dagger (?), >>> the lower hands hold garlands (?) or reins of chariot horse (?). We look >>> forward to expert opinions. >>> >>> Best regards, Asko >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > *Dr. Manish Rajan Walvekar* > *Assistant Professor (Senior Grade) and Centre Coordinator* > *Amrita Darshanam International Centre for Spiritual Studies* > *Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham* > *Bangalore.* > > || ????? ??????? ??? || > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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Andrew ------------------------ Dear colleagues, We are happy to announce the second meeting of our Bhoja group, this time in his hometown, Dhar, and the surrounding area (September 8-18, 2024). We plan to be based in Indore and Bhopal, with excursions to nearby sites, and in between these excursions, to read from Bhoja?s *???g?raprak??a* and related texts. The group is open for applications with a preference for graduate students and postdocs, whether or not present at our first meeting in Procida. At the moment, we are still finalizing the budget, so we cannot make any commitments, but we hope very much that we will be able to cover at least part of the accommodation costs. Those of you who might like to attend: please send an email of interest that briefly states what might lead you to join this group, what your language background is, and who might serve as a reference (deadline for emails: April 30). Please also mention if you can stay for the entire duration. 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Mar 2024, at 19.12, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > > The two elements in the two lower hands are reins of chariot. horse(s). > > In Sri Vaishnava temples, it is common to have the shrines dedicated to Hanuman and Garuda on either side of the central shrine of Vishnu in any form. > > Vishnu on chariot can be Suryanarayana or Savitr Narayana. > > Lotus in the hands of Surya is not uncommon. > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 8:32?PM Manish Rajan Walvekar via INDOLOGY > wrote: >> Dear Professor Asko, >> >> I discussed this with Dr. Gopal Joge of Deccan College, Pune. He added to Prof. Deshpande's scholarly opinion:- the image appears to be 'Vishnu', but with a typical late period 'Himalayan' style. Similar kinds of wood carving and images can be seen at Devi-Kothi, Himachal Pradesh, India. >> >> Thanks. >> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 6:57?PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>> Dear Asko, >>> >>> This looks like Chaturbhuja Vishnu at the center, flanked by Hanuman and Garuda. In my family, we have an image of Krishna with Hanuman and Garuda at his feet. I have seen this arrangement in some temples in Pune. >>> >>> Madhav >>> >>> >>> Madhav M. Deshpande >>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >>> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India >>> >>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:53?AM Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>>> Years ago my wife acquired in London the finely carved wooden panel a scan of which is attached. >>>> We are at loss in trying to identify the central figure with vai??ava marks, worshipped by the monkey >>>> king (Hanuman? V?lin?) and the bird king (Garu?a? Ja??yus?). The worshippers rather point to >>>> R?ma, but the iconography of the object of their worship is unusual and strange to me. >>>> He wears a crown and the upper hands hold a three-leaved plant (?) and a sword or dagger (?), >>>> the lower hands hold garlands (?) or reins of chariot horse (?). We look forward to expert opinions. >>>> >>>> Best regards, Asko >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Dr. Manish Rajan Walvekar >> Assistant Professor (Senior Grade) and Centre Coordinator >> Amrita Darshanam International Centre for Spiritual Studies >> Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham >> Bangalore. >> >> || ????? ??????? ??? || >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Further details about the program and practical matters can be found in the attached document or here. Interested participants can apply by 17th April and will be informed about acceptance by 30th April. The fee is heavily subsidized and amounts to 700 US Dollars, which also covers accommodation, full boarding, transport and entrance fees for field trips, as well as airport pick up and drop. For applicants who do not have access to sufficient funds through their institutions, a limited amount of travel bursaries and partial course subsidies are available thanks to financial support of the Austrian Science Fund Cluster of Excellence ?EurAsian Transformations?. Please kindly forward this announcement to interested students or early postdocs! For further questions, please do not hesitate to write to any of us. 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URL: From d.wujastyk at gmail.com Fri Mar 15 15:33:24 2024 From: d.wujastyk at gmail.com (Dagmar Wujastyk) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:33:24 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Series of talks on the History of Science in Early South Asia Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I would like to make you aware of a series of online talks and discussions on the history of science in early South Asia, convened by Dr Lisa Brooks and myself and hosted by the Consortium for History of Science, Technology, and Medicine: https://www.chstm.org/early-south-asia Our next speaker is Anna Winterbottom (McGill university), who will give a talk on "*Material aspects of some early modern Sri Lankan medical manuscripts *" this Monday (March 18, 2024 10:30 am to 12:00 pm EDT). Please see the website cited above for the abstract for this talk. All talks and discussions are online and joining is free. 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Houben* Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben * *https://www.classicalindia.info* LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission et transformations d'un savoir scientifique -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.wujastyk at gmail.com Fri Mar 15 17:53:30 2024 From: d.wujastyk at gmail.com (Dagmar Wujastyk) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:53:30 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Info on 19th WSC Kathmandu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this link, Jan. I have heard rumors that the date for the conference may change. Can anyone from the conference committee confirm this - or confirm the original December date? Best wishes, Dagmar On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 11:16, Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear All, > > Since the website of the 19th WSC Kathmandu > https://www.nepalworldsanskrit.org/ > seems to be occasionally difficult to access, > I point out that all recent information and the second circular can also > be found on the website of GREI -- Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes > : > https://grei.fr/en/world-sanskrit-conference-en/ > > With best regards, > > Jan Houben > > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* > > ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > Groupe de recherches en ?tudes indiennes (EA 2120) > > *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu * > > *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > * > > *https://www.classicalindia.info* > > LabEx Hastec -- *L'Inde Classique* augment?e: construction, transmission > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do have a look if it seems like > your kind of thing! > > https://www.tylerneill.info/blog-kalpataru-diaries > > Cheers, > Tyler > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp4536 at columbia.edu Sat Mar 16 11:58:54 2024 From: jp4536 at columbia.edu (Jonathan Peterson) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:58:54 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification Message-ID: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> Dear Colleagues, I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes ? may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, but no further information is given. 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Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, > but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be > greatly appreciated. > > Best wishes, > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpo at austin.utexas.edu Sat Mar 16 14:48:10 2024 From: jpo at austin.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:48:10 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would be good to give some metadata about each ms. Patrick Olivelle On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY wrote: Namaskar Jonathan Ji, They are from Sanskrit Academy Osmania University Campus Hyderabad 500 007 Andhra Pradesh India On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes? may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. 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But it would > be good to give some metadata about each ms. > > Patrick Olivelle > > > > > On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Namaskar Jonathan Ji, > They are from > Sanskrit Academy > Osmania University Campus > Hyderabad 500 007 > Andhra Pradesh > India > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was >> wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized >> manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes >> ? >> may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, >> but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be >> greatly appreciated. >> >> Best wishes, >> Jonathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Dean, IndicA BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp4536 at columbia.edu Sat Mar 16 16:17:24 2024 From: jp4536 at columbia.edu (Jonathan Peterson) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:17:24 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> Thank you, everyone, for the quick replies. The catalogue of Sanskrit mss at Osmania University confirms that the ?I am visionary" mss are indeed from there. There are interesting and rare works in the collection, so I for one am happy to see some of them digitized. Best wishes, Jonathan > On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:11?AM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > > https://sanskritacademy.net/governing-body/ > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:18?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY > wrote: >> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would be good to give some metadata about each ms. >> >> Patrick Olivelle >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>> >>> Namaskar Jonathan Ji, >>> They are from >>> Sanskrit Academy >>> Osmania University Campus >>> Hyderabad 500 007 >>> Andhra Pradesh >>> India >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>> >>>> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes ? may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lubint at wlu.edu Sun Mar 17 03:23:31 2024 From: lubint at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 03:23:31 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <66620CDA-D2AB-4930-AD93-BC594C4F32EF@wlu.edu> So, Patrick, if the manuscripts on Archive.org are from Osmania U., is this the manuscript you were trying to consult? https://archive.org/details/1252YagyavalkyaSmritiManuscriptsByIAMVISIONARYTUNES Best, Tim From: INDOLOGY on behalf of INDOLOGY Reply-To: Patrick Olivelle Date: Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 10:48?AM To: Ajit Gargeshwari Cc: Jonathan Peterson , INDOLOGY Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would be good to give some metadata about each ms. Patrick Olivelle On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY wrote: Namaskar Jonathan Ji, They are from Sanskrit Academy Osmania University Campus Hyderabad 500 007 Andhra Pradesh India On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes? may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Jonathan _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 05:45:30 2024 From: ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com (Ajit Gargeshwari) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:15:30 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> Message-ID: >From their Catalogue Published in 1964 it appears they have in their collection more manuscripts. I don?t know if all their manuscripts are digitised and if digitised, are publicly accessible or not. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.382669/page/n1/mode/2up Regards Ajit Gargeshwari Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ View our Digitized Collections *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust * https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 21:47, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Thank you, everyone, for the quick replies. The catalogue of Sanskrit mss > at Osmania University confirms that the ?I am visionary" mss are indeed > from there. There are interesting and rare works in the collection, so I > for one am happy to see some of them digitized. > Best wishes, > Jonathan > > > > On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:11?AM, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > > https://sanskritacademy.net/governing-body/ > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:18?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from >> Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of >> the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give >> more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The >> Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would >> be good to give some metadata about each ms. >> >> Patrick Olivelle >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Namaskar Jonathan Ji, >> They are from >> Sanskrit Academy >> Osmania University Campus >> Hyderabad 500 007 >> Andhra Pradesh >> India >> >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was >>> wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized >>> manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary >>> Tunes >>> ? >>> may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, >>> but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be >>> greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Jonathan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> >>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 06:32:53 2024 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:02:53 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> Message-ID: " Sanskrit Manucripts In The Oamania University Library" may be different from " I am Vision Tunes " or Sanskrit Academy affiliated to Osmania University if it is the same as " I am Vision Tunes" On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:16?AM Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > From their Catalogue Published in 1964 it appears they have in their > collection more manuscripts. I don?t know if all their manuscripts are > digitised and if digitised, are publicly accessible or not. > https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.382669/page/n1/mode/2up > Regards > Ajit Gargeshwari > > Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ > View our Digitized Collections > *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust > * > https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation > https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity > > ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? > ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 21:47, Jonathan Peterson > wrote: > >> Thank you, everyone, for the quick replies. The catalogue of Sanskrit mss >> at Osmania University confirms that the ?I am visionary" mss are indeed >> from there. There are interesting and rare works in the collection, so I >> for one am happy to see some of them digitized. >> Best wishes, >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:11?AM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >> https://sanskritacademy.net/governing-body/ >> >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:18?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from >>> Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of >>> the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give >>> more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The >>> Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would >>> be good to give some metadata about each ms. >>> >>> Patrick Olivelle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>> Namaskar Jonathan Ji, >>> They are from >>> Sanskrit Academy >>> Osmania University Campus >>> Hyderabad 500 007 >>> Andhra Pradesh >>> India >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>> >>>> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was >>>> wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized >>>> manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary >>>> Tunes >>>> ? >>>> may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, >>>> but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be >>>> greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> >>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> >>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> Dean, IndicA >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Dean, IndicA BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 06:40:45 2024 From: ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com (Ajit Gargeshwari) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:10:45 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> Message-ID: The acedemy has in their collection 2674 manuscripts. The archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes ? have 559 Manuscripts. Prof Paturi ji is correct when he says " Sanskrit Manucripts In The Oamania University Library" may be different from " I am Vision Tunes " or Sanskrit Academy affiliated to Osmania University. https://sanskritacademy.net/manuscript-repository/ Regards Ajit Gargeshwari Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ View our Digitized Collections *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust * https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 12:03, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > " Sanskrit Manucripts In The Oamania University Library" may be different > from " I am Vision Tunes " or Sanskrit Academy affiliated to Osmania > University if it is the same as " I am Vision Tunes" > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:16?AM Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> From their Catalogue Published in 1964 it appears they have in their >> collection more manuscripts. I don?t know if all their manuscripts are >> digitised and if digitised, are publicly accessible or not. >> https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.382669/page/n1/mode/2up >> Regards >> Ajit Gargeshwari >> >> Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ >> View our Digitized Collections >> *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust >> * >> https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation >> https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity >> >> ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? >> ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? >> >> >> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 21:47, Jonathan Peterson >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, everyone, for the quick replies. The catalogue of Sanskrit >>> mss at Osmania University confirms that the ?I am visionary" mss are indeed >>> from there. There are interesting and rare works in the collection, so I >>> for one am happy to see some of them digitized. >>> Best wishes, >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:11?AM, Nagaraj Paturi >>> wrote: >>> >>> https://sanskritacademy.net/governing-body/ >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:18?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from >>>> Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of >>>> the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give >>>> more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The >>>> Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would >>>> be good to give some metadata about each ms. >>>> >>>> Patrick Olivelle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>> Namaskar Jonathan Ji, >>>> They are from >>>> Sanskrit Academy >>>> Osmania University Campus >>>> Hyderabad 500 007 >>>> Andhra Pradesh >>>> India >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was >>>>> wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized >>>>> manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary >>>>> Tunes >>>>> ? >>>>> may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, >>>>> but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be >>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> >>>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> >>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> Dean, IndicA >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 07:25:21 2024 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:55:21 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscript Collection Identification In-Reply-To: References: <13EBFF23-05B5-4611-8E1C-93CB8F22E7CB@columbia.edu> <140EB20E-A94A-4C76-B674-38BEA82623BA@austin.utexas.edu> <31E140F0-CF57-432E-8593-530E6A60B65C@columbia.edu> Message-ID: There are three different libraries involved in Sanskrit book preservation including Sanskrit manuscript preservation on the same campus, the campus of Osmania university, in the walkable vicinity to each other. 1. Osmania University library 2. Sanskrit Academy Library and 3. Oriental Manuscript Library and Research Center which was earlier called AP Government Oriental Manuscript Library and Research Center Though Sanskrit Academy was located on Osmania University campus from its beginning, Sanskrit Academy's getting affiliated to Osmania University is a recent development. Oriental Manuscript Library and Research Center getting relocated on Osmania University campus is also a recent development. (Originally AP Government Oriental Manuscript Library and Research Center was located in the Chirag Ali lane, Abids, Hyderabad.) On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:11?PM Ajit Gargeshwari < ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com> wrote: > The acedemy has in their collection 2674 manuscripts. The archive.org under > the account ?I Am Visionary Tunes > ? > have 559 Manuscripts. Prof Paturi ji is correct when he says " Sanskrit > Manucripts In The Oamania University Library" may be different from " I am > Vision Tunes " or Sanskrit Academy affiliated to Osmania University. > > https://sanskritacademy.net/manuscript-repository/ > > Regards > Ajit Gargeshwari > > Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ > View our Digitized Collections > *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust > * > https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation > https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity > > ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? > ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? > > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 12:03, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> " Sanskrit Manucripts In The Oamania University Library" may be different >> from " I am Vision Tunes " or Sanskrit Academy affiliated to Osmania >> University if it is the same as " I am Vision Tunes" >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:16?AM Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> From their Catalogue Published in 1964 it appears they have in their >>> collection more manuscripts. I don?t know if all their manuscripts are >>> digitised and if digitised, are publicly accessible or not. >>> https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.382669/page/n1/mode/2up >>> Regards >>> Ajit Gargeshwari >>> >>> Website: https://www.indoscripts.org/ >>> View our Digitized Collections >>> *https://archive.org/details/indo-script-raksha-trust >>> * >>> https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation >>> https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity >>> >>> ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? >>> ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 21:47, Jonathan Peterson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, everyone, for the quick replies. The catalogue of Sanskrit >>>> mss at Osmania University confirms that the ?I am visionary" mss are indeed >>>> from there. There are interesting and rare works in the collection, so I >>>> for one am happy to see some of them digitized. >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:11?AM, Nagaraj Paturi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://sanskritacademy.net/governing-body/ >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:18?PM Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is amazing. I assume that the Sanskrit Academy is distinct from >>>>> Osmania University. I spent three days there trying to get a manuscript of >>>>> the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti, without success. The policy them was not to give >>>>> more than one third of a single manuscript!! An asinine policy. The >>>>> Sanskrit Academy seems to have a much more enlightened policy. But it would >>>>> be good to give some metadata about each ms. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Olivelle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:52?AM, Ajit Gargeshwari via INDOLOGY < >>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Namaskar Jonathan Ji, >>>>> They are from >>>>> Sanskrit Academy >>>>> Osmania University Campus >>>>> Hyderabad 500 007 >>>>> Andhra Pradesh >>>>> India >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 5:29 PM Jonathan Peterson via INDOLOGY < >>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>>> >>>>>> I?m writing on behalf of Nilanjan Das, who's not on this list. He was >>>>>> wondering if anyone might be able to identify which library the digitized >>>>>> manuscripts posted to Archive.org under the account ?I Am Visionary >>>>>> Tunes >>>>>> ? >>>>>> may have come from. Almost all of the mss are marked with shelf numbers, >>>>>> but no further information is given. Any help on the matter would be >>>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>> >>>>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> >>>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ef5BG-uyuOSjrTG4JQNx69bC4pda0qR4nQ9cZAJb_aW19scogoRPxp0gKuLkIO0UBQdr4xVeTDJtsidM9mpiJQYPNIWZkOPGG-0MDcgpg7TyOevAJ0eEEykT4rck9f4TTYsfX0YZZA0iItFRCg7WHhYtR1UbKyG-h-HtG_FLfLRI68uyFV1jtJoWuH8Nwj9ppn4x-xjED6mxWBGCa1sQ4Gh09ctrEOWjKNtHtCo6RT7taUyaksRlcyr-ky_gyvZHnOBBr_vTz3SFVmo2u9ItJcyixfKWbf5nDhi_dFWf7bm7xKp6WUqDGqmK2NY96q2YzxlUdrxgmVAVLzZbxKByAbNW3QYhxQ2wkG1Jlzz12liHb4_6YOUWD9D_0rliEF6m-mgLJW-2n7QLcb3Og7nZDXWaa_LvK2-j0-T4chLvDJPUFvwvEeHDxSt6Y0NBzuE4zWY9gTIJcqE0Z7joLlIn3VU93fmkSKymvwixkDJDR_CMPxgj3xDcOOd0tqXZDQTPs6UAUOnXnoej-h4Oz8MOPpAUW6sKvaZ_abfG76vGuM8eI29w9rxH1Tw-94ZlePg6guz9Y3l_M0y7EeT9g3HBwg/https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> Dean, IndicA >>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >>>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >>>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> Dean, IndicA >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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He had been diagnosed with an incurable and aggressive form of brain tumor (glioblastoma) in March 2023. Diego was a proud husband to his colleague Stephanie Balkwill, Assistant Professor of Chinese Buddhism at UCLA, and father to 8-year-old Remedios, as well as a proud citizen of Guatemala, Colombia, and Canada. He continued his activity as instructor, graduate supervisor, and researcher throughout the course of his illness up until the end of 2023, when his physical limitations made work difficult and secondary to end-of-life considerations. Diego had unfinished studies in Classics and Music (cello) from the National University of Colombia, a BA in Asian History from the University of Bologna in Italy, and an MA in Sanskrit and P?li from Peking University, where he also studied Khotanese and G?ndh?r? under the late Prof. Duan Qing; after this he completed his doctoral studies under Prof. Gregory Schopen in Buddhist Studies at UCLA. Diego focused on the philological treatment of unpublished documents, fragments, and inscriptions in Central Asian languages, with an eye to their contribution to the history of Buddhism and of the Silk Road. If you would like to contribute a personal reminiscence or anecdote to be shared at an upcoming memorial event at UCLA, please write it in this thread or write to his wife Stephanie at balkwill at humnet.ucla.edu. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Stefan Baums, Ph.D. Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie Ludwig?Maximilians?Universit?t M?nchen From csaba_dezso at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 18 18:51:27 2024 From: csaba_dezso at yahoo.co.uk (Csaba Dezso) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 19:51:27 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Diego_Loukota_=2816_April_1985_=E2=80=93_17?= =?utf-8?q?_March_2024=29?= In-Reply-To: <875xxj4cik.fsf@lmu.de> References: <875xxj4cik.fsf@lmu.de> Message-ID: <1CB4969A-9C5A-4772-A7D0-DD82C86D4840@yahoo.co.uk> What a terrible loss. I did not know Diego personally, but I found his PhD dissertation on the Kalpan?ma??itik? an excellent, very erudite and inspiring work. I wish it could be published? > 2024. m?rc. 18. d?tummal, 19:32 id?pontban Stefan Baums via INDOLOGY ?rta: > > Our dear friend and colleague Diego Loukota has passed away. Even > in his last days, the fields of study to which he gave so much > were in his thoughts, and he asked for the following obituary to > be shared with you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Diego Loukota, Assistant Professor in Indian and Central Asian > Buddhism at UCLA, died at the age of 38 on Sunday, March 17th, > 2024 in his home in Santa Monica, California, surrounded by family > and friends. He had been diagnosed with an incurable and > aggressive form of brain tumor (glioblastoma) in March 2023. Diego > was a proud husband to his colleague Stephanie Balkwill, Assistant > Professor of Chinese Buddhism at UCLA, and father to 8-year-old > Remedios, as well as a proud citizen of Guatemala, Colombia, and > Canada. He continued his activity as instructor, graduate > supervisor, and researcher throughout the course of his illness up > until the end of 2023, when his physical limitations made work > difficult and secondary to end-of-life considerations. > > Diego had unfinished studies in Classics and Music (cello) from > the National University of Colombia, a BA in Asian History from > the University of Bologna in Italy, and an MA in Sanskrit and P?li > from Peking University, where he also studied Khotanese and > G?ndh?r? under the late Prof. Duan Qing; after this he completed > his doctoral studies under Prof. Gregory Schopen in Buddhist > Studies at UCLA. > > Diego focused on the philological treatment of unpublished > documents, fragments, and inscriptions in Central Asian languages, > with an eye to their contribution to the history of Buddhism and > of the Silk Road. > > If you would like to contribute a personal reminiscence or > anecdote to be shared at an upcoming memorial event at UCLA, > please write it in this thread or write to his wife Stephanie at > balkwill at humnet.ucla.edu. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Stefan Baums, Ph.D. > Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie > Ludwig?Maximilians?Universit?t M?nchen > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From rsalomon at uw.edu Mon Mar 18 19:00:47 2024 From: rsalomon at uw.edu (Richard G. Salomon) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:00:47 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Diego_Loukota_=2816_April_1985_=E2=80=93_17?= =?utf-8?q?_March_2024=29?= In-Reply-To: <875xxj4cik.fsf@lmu.de> References: <875xxj4cik.fsf@lmu.de> Message-ID: Dear Friends, Truly a sad and bitter loss to our scholarly community as well as, of course, to Diego's family and friends. He was a truly gifted scholar who would certainly have gone on to great things. Condolences to everyone who is affected by this tragedy. Rich Salomon On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:32?AM Stefan Baums via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Our dear friend and colleague Diego Loukota has passed away. Even > in his last days, the fields of study to which he gave so much > were in his thoughts, and he asked for the following obituary to > be shared with you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Diego Loukota, Assistant Professor in Indian and Central Asian > Buddhism at UCLA, died at the age of 38 on Sunday, March 17th, > 2024 in his home in Santa Monica, California, surrounded by family > and friends. He had been diagnosed with an incurable and > aggressive form of brain tumor (glioblastoma) in March 2023. Diego > was a proud husband to his colleague Stephanie Balkwill, Assistant > Professor of Chinese Buddhism at UCLA, and father to 8-year-old > Remedios, as well as a proud citizen of Guatemala, Colombia, and > Canada. He continued his activity as instructor, graduate > supervisor, and researcher throughout the course of his illness up > until the end of 2023, when his physical limitations made work > difficult and secondary to end-of-life considerations. > > Diego had unfinished studies in Classics and Music (cello) from > the National University of Colombia, a BA in Asian History from > the University of Bologna in Italy, and an MA in Sanskrit and P?li > from Peking University, where he also studied Khotanese and > G?ndh?r? under the late Prof. Duan Qing; after this he completed > his doctoral studies under Prof. Gregory Schopen in Buddhist > Studies at UCLA. > > Diego focused on the philological treatment of unpublished > documents, fragments, and inscriptions in Central Asian languages, > with an eye to their contribution to the history of Buddhism and > of the Silk Road. > > If you would like to contribute a personal reminiscence or > anecdote to be shared at an upcoming memorial event at UCLA, > please write it in this thread or write to his wife Stephanie at > balkwill at humnet.ucla.edu. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Stefan Baums, Ph.D. > Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie > Ludwig?Maximilians?Universit?t M?nchen > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!k8n8rnUp5IS1l6nUkjOHuuQC3_FZ59g54l3CrMsXyAzPAjI7aYg7KAB5PChy9Yitamhj6R7xp2kUSR8MBml-az1WGQ$ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He was a truly gifted scholar who > would certainly have gone on to great things. Condolences to everyone who > is affected by this tragedy. > > Rich Salomon > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:32?AM Stefan Baums via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Our dear friend and colleague Diego Loukota has passed away. Even >> in his last days, the fields of study to which he gave so much >> were in his thoughts, and he asked for the following obituary to >> be shared with you. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Diego Loukota, Assistant Professor in Indian and Central Asian >> Buddhism at UCLA, died at the age of 38 on Sunday, March 17th, >> 2024 in his home in Santa Monica, California, surrounded by family >> and friends. He had been diagnosed with an incurable and >> aggressive form of brain tumor (glioblastoma) in March 2023. Diego >> was a proud husband to his colleague Stephanie Balkwill, Assistant >> Professor of Chinese Buddhism at UCLA, and father to 8-year-old >> Remedios, as well as a proud citizen of Guatemala, Colombia, and >> Canada. He continued his activity as instructor, graduate >> supervisor, and researcher throughout the course of his illness up >> until the end of 2023, when his physical limitations made work >> difficult and secondary to end-of-life considerations. >> >> Diego had unfinished studies in Classics and Music (cello) from >> the National University of Colombia, a BA in Asian History from >> the University of Bologna in Italy, and an MA in Sanskrit and P?li >> from Peking University, where he also studied Khotanese and >> G?ndh?r? under the late Prof. Duan Qing; after this he completed >> his doctoral studies under Prof. Gregory Schopen in Buddhist >> Studies at UCLA. >> >> Diego focused on the philological treatment of unpublished >> documents, fragments, and inscriptions in Central Asian languages, >> with an eye to their contribution to the history of Buddhism and >> of the Silk Road. >> >> If you would like to contribute a personal reminiscence or >> anecdote to be shared at an upcoming memorial event at UCLA, >> please write it in this thread or write to his wife Stephanie at >> balkwill at humnet.ucla.edu. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Stefan Baums, Ph.D. >> Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie >> Ludwig?Maximilians?Universit?t M?nchen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!k8n8rnUp5IS1l6nUkjOHuuQC3_FZ59g54l3CrMsXyAzPAjI7aYg7KAB5PChy9Yitamhj6R7xp2kUSR8MBml-az1WGQ$ >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Certainly he was already on the way to transforming > our understanding of the literary history of North India and Central Asia > in the early first millennium CE. I feel very lucky to have shared some > time with him. > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 2:03?PM Richard G. Salomon via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Truly a sad and bitter loss to our scholarly community as well as, of >> course, to Diego's family and friends. He was a truly gifted scholar who >> would certainly have gone on to great things. Condolences to everyone who >> is affected by this tragedy. >> >> Rich Salomon >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:32?AM Stefan Baums via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Our dear friend and colleague Diego Loukota has passed away. Even >>> in his last days, the fields of study to which he gave so much >>> were in his thoughts, and he asked for the following obituary to >>> be shared with you. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Diego Loukota, Assistant Professor in Indian and Central Asian >>> Buddhism at UCLA, died at the age of 38 on Sunday, March 17th, >>> 2024 in his home in Santa Monica, California, surrounded by family >>> and friends. He had been diagnosed with an incurable and >>> aggressive form of brain tumor (glioblastoma) in March 2023. Diego >>> was a proud husband to his colleague Stephanie Balkwill, Assistant >>> Professor of Chinese Buddhism at UCLA, and father to 8-year-old >>> Remedios, as well as a proud citizen of Guatemala, Colombia, and >>> Canada. He continued his activity as instructor, graduate >>> supervisor, and researcher throughout the course of his illness up >>> until the end of 2023, when his physical limitations made work >>> difficult and secondary to end-of-life considerations. >>> >>> Diego had unfinished studies in Classics and Music (cello) from >>> the National University of Colombia, a BA in Asian History from >>> the University of Bologna in Italy, and an MA in Sanskrit and P?li >>> from Peking University, where he also studied Khotanese and >>> G?ndh?r? under the late Prof. Duan Qing; after this he completed >>> his doctoral studies under Prof. Gregory Schopen in Buddhist >>> Studies at UCLA. >>> >>> Diego focused on the philological treatment of unpublished >>> documents, fragments, and inscriptions in Central Asian languages, >>> with an eye to their contribution to the history of Buddhism and >>> of the Silk Road. >>> >>> If you would like to contribute a personal reminiscence or >>> anecdote to be shared at an upcoming memorial event at UCLA, >>> please write it in this thread or write to his wife Stephanie at >>> balkwill at humnet.ucla.edu. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> Stefan Baums, Ph.D. >>> Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie >>> Ludwig?Maximilians?Universit?t M?nchen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!k8n8rnUp5IS1l6nUkjOHuuQC3_FZ59g54l3CrMsXyAzPAjI7aYg7KAB5PChy9Yitamhj6R7xp2kUSR8MBml-az1WGQ$ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is a hand-typed and cyclostyled list of the Mss available in the library prepared by Pt Dinanath Yacch and Pt Srikanth Kaul (but their names were not mentioned there). There are four other catalogues of the Sanskrit manuscripts of Oriental Research Library, Srinagar. But all of them are originally based on this catalogue. The other ones are as follows: (2) Deambi's catalogue (only vol. 1 was published) (3) A printed catalogue of the institution (4) A catalogue of the Sanskrit manuscripts available on the website of the institution (5) A catalogue prepared by IGNCA . I'd be very grateful if anyone could share the 1989 catalogue with me. -- Deepro Chakraborty (he/him) PhD candidate Department of History, Classics, and Religion University of Alberta *The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on ???????????? 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I hope it is not inappropriate for me to share a recording of a verse from *G?h?sattasa?* that Diego kindly recorded for me. It feels like a small way to honor his memory and the generosity he always showed. *"s? ta? sahatthadi??a? ajja vi re suhaa ga?dharahia? piuvvasia?aaragharadevaa vva om?lia? vaha?* [ch?y?s: Bhuvanap?la: *s? tvay? svahastadatt?m ady?pi he subhaga gandharahit?m apiudv?sitanagarag?hadevateva avam?lik?? vahati* P??hak: s? tvay? svahastadatt?m ady?pi re subhaga gandharahit?m api udvasitanagarag?hadevateva avam?lik?? vahati] She... even today the one [you] gave [her] with your own hand, you lucky man, even if no longer fragrant, Like the god-image of a house in a deserted city, that very jasmin bloom she persists wearing." -- Deepro Chakraborty (he/him) PhD candidate Department of History, Classics, and Religion University of Alberta *The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on ???????????? 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To register, please visit this webpage: https://www.eventsforce.net/cbs/630/home Please note that online registration will close on Wednesday 3rd April; so if you would like to register, please do so as soon as you can. Unfortunately we are not able to arrange accommodation. Delegates will have to arrange this for themselves. Provisional schedule: Friday 19 April 1.50 welcome 2.00 Keynote: Max Deeg (Cardiff University): ?Dharmay?tr?: from Regional Religious Traveling to Trans-Asian Pilgrimage? 3.00 Daniela Bevilacqua (ISCTE - University Institute of Lisbon): ?Tapobh?mi: when the Spiritual Power Saturates the Landscape? 4.00 tea 4.30 Justin Grosnick (Graduate Theological Union): ?Jagannath the Pilgrim: Pilgrimage as Envisioned from the Perspective of Sacred Images? 5.00 Elizabeth A. Cecil (Florida State University): ?Crossing Over: T?rtha in Early Southeast Asia? Saturday 20 April 9.00 Keynote: Catherine Hartmann (University of Wyoming): ?Reading Milarepa in his Footsteps: how a Tibetan Pilgrim Engages the Life of Milarepa? 10.00 Dessi Vendova (Museum of Fine Arts, Boston): ?Revisiting the K?li?gabodhi J?taka?s Classification of Buddhist Shrines? 11.00 coffee 11.30 Shaashi Ahlawat (University of Pennsylvania): ?Migrants to Pilgrims: Jains in Medieval Magadha? 12.00 Mrinalini Sil (Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi): ?Imaging Sacred Spaces, Transregional Travels and Religio-Aesthetics of Jain Mercantile Mobility in Early Modern Bengal? 12.30 Umtul Aleem Kokab (Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi): ?Pilgrimage of the ?Heretics?: an Ethnographic Study of Jalsa Salana, an Annual Gathering of Ahmadi Pilgrims in Qadian, India? 1.00 lunch 2.00 Michael D. Calabria (St. Bonaventure University, New York): ?The Path of the Penitent: the Pilgrimage to Ajmer under Shah Jahan? 3.00 Parshati Dutta (University of York): ??All the Way to that Blessed and Gracious Place, the Corner of Security?: a Mughal Princess?s Pilgrimage and Matronage in the Sufi Shrine of Ajmer? 3.30 Imran Visram (Oxford University): ?Pilgrimage in the Didactic Teachings of the Satpanth Ismaili Pirs? 4.00 tea 4.30 Tomoka Mushiga (University of Osaka): ?The Development of a Hindu Sacred Site: Change from ?aiva to Vai??ava Affiliation in Gay?? 5.30 Rutika Gandhi (University of British Columbia): ?Digital Darshan: Reimagining Pilgrimage and Divine Connection in the Age of Social Media ? A Case Study of Harsiddhi Mata Temple? Sunday 21 April 9.00 Aneesh Raghavan (Heidelberg Academy of Sciences and Humanities): ?Textual vs Tangible: Temples in the K??c?sthalam?h?tmya? 10.00 Peter C. 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Those days, I used to hear from Pandit Dinanath Yacch, they used to sell copies of this cyclostyled version. No 2 in your list, prepared by Prof Deambi, was a revised version of No. 1 and was printed and the copies are still available from the Centre of Central Asian Studies in the University of Kashmir (Hazratbal Campus). Unfortunately, Prof Deambi did not prepare the second volume of this hand-list. A separate list of the Persian and Arabic Mss in the same collection was also prepared and printed by the same centre. No 3 in your list is a randomised version of the No 1 and No 2 and the information has been carelessly put together by the staff of the Research Department and printed as a catalogue. No 4 is sometimes even more misleading. No 5 is, in fact, a PDF prepared by me taking all the information about this collection from IGNCA. I also made a separate PDF of the Persian and Arabic Mss using the information provided by IGNCA. Even though this list contains the most pragmatic details of the scanned Mss, the Ms IDs given by them are not always unique giving rise to a number of ambiguities. Best wishes. Mrinal ----- Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in https://www.hss.iitb.ac.in/people/faculty/mrinal-kaul https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg > On 20-Mar-2024, at 8:04 AM, Deepro Chakraborty via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of the following catalogue: > > 1989. A Catalogue of Sanskrit Manuscripts. Srinagar: The Research and Publication Department, Jammu and Kashmir Government. Based on a draft prepared by Srikantha Kaul and Dinanath Yach. > > This is a hand-typed and cyclostyled list of the Mss available in the library prepared by Pt Dinanath Yacch and Pt Srikanth Kaul (but their names were not mentioned there). There are four other catalogues of the Sanskrit manuscripts of Oriental Research Library, Srinagar. But all of them are originally based on this catalogue. The other ones are as follows: > (2) Deambi's catalogue (only vol. 1 was published) > (3) A printed catalogue of the institution > (4) A catalogue of the Sanskrit manuscripts available on the website of the institution > (5) A catalogue prepared by IGNCA . > > I'd be very grateful if anyone could share the 1989 catalogue with me. > > -- > Deepro Chakraborty > (he/him) > PhD candidate > Department of History, Classics, and Religion > University of Alberta > > The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on ???????????? (Amiskwac?w?skahikan) Treaty 6 territory, and respects the history, languages, and cultures of the First Nations, M?tis, Inuit, and all First Peoples of Canada, whose presence continues to enrich our institution. > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deepro at ualberta.ca Wed Mar 20 22:25:35 2024 From: deepro at ualberta.ca (Deepro Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:25:35 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PDF of 1989 Srinagar ORL Mss Catalogue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the details, Mrinal. I remember you explained to me the history of these different catalogues. I put all this information on the Pandit Project . I also checked with Prof. Graheli who referred to this catalogue in one of his articles. He told me that perhaps there is a scan of this catalogue in Vienna. I know you are busy and I don't want you to scan the entire catalogue for me. But if anyone can do it as paid work I can pay for it. For the time being if you could send me only the reference to the text *Var?a?ik??sa?k?epa* by Jagaddhara, I'd be grateful. Regards, Deepro On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 6:49?AM Mrinal Kaul wrote: > Dear Deepro, > > Sorry for you still have not been able to manage the scan of this > hand-list. I will see if someone can scan it. This 1989 hand-list was > partly based on the information available in the accession register in the > Oriental Research Library in Srinagar. Those days, I used to hear from > Pandit Dinanath Yacch, they used to sell copies of this cyclostyled > version. No 2 in your list, prepared by Prof Deambi, was a revised version > of No. 1 and was printed and the copies are still available from the Centre > of Central Asian Studies in the University of Kashmir (Hazratbal Campus). > Unfortunately, Prof Deambi did not prepare the second volume of this > hand-list. A separate list of the Persian and Arabic Mss in the same > collection was also prepared and printed by the same centre. No 3 in your > list is a randomised version of the No 1 and No 2 and the information has > been carelessly put together by the staff of the Research Department and > printed as a catalogue. No 4 is sometimes even more misleading. No 5 is, in > fact, a PDF prepared by me taking all the information about this collection > from IGNCA. I also made a separate PDF of the Persian and Arabic Mss using > the information provided by IGNCA. Even though this list contains the most > pragmatic details of the scanned Mss, the Ms IDs given by them are not > always unique giving rise to a number of ambiguities. Best wishes. > > Mrinal > ----- > Mrinal Kaul (he/ him/ his) > Assistant Professor of Indian Philosophy > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences (HSS) > Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay (IIT-B) > Powai, Mumbai 400076, INDIA > Tel: +91 22-2576-5349 Extn: 5349 (office) > Tel: +91 22-62513773 (Residence) > email: mrinal.kaul at iitb.ac.in > *https://www.hss.iitb.ac.in/people/faculty/mrinal-kaul > * > https://iitbombay.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > Meeting: meet.google.com/gtj-tdms-tpg > > On 20-Mar-2024, at 8:04 AM, Deepro Chakraborty via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of the following catalogue: > > 1989. *A Catalogue of Sanskrit Manuscripts*. Srinagar: The Research and > Publication Department, Jammu and Kashmir Government. Based on a draft > prepared by Srikantha Kaul and Dinanath Yach. > > This is a hand-typed and cyclostyled list of the Mss available in the > library prepared by Pt Dinanath Yacch and Pt Srikanth Kaul (but their names > were not mentioned there). There are four other catalogues of the > Sanskrit manuscripts of Oriental Research Library, Srinagar. But all of > them are originally based on this catalogue. The other ones are as > follows: > (2) Deambi's catalogue > (only > vol. 1 was published) > (3) A printed catalogue of the institution > > > (4) A catalogue of the Sanskrit manuscripts available on the website of > the institution > > (5) A catalogue prepared by IGNCA > > . > > I'd be very grateful if anyone could share the 1989 catalogue with me. > > -- > Deepro Chakraborty > (he/him) > PhD candidate > Department of History, Classics, and Religion > University of Alberta > > *The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on > ???????????? (Amiskwac?w?skahikan) Treaty 6 territory, and respects the > history, languages, and cultures of the First Nations, M?tis, Inuit, and > all First Peoples of Canada, whose presence continues to enrich our > institution.* > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > -- Deepro Chakraborty (he/him) PhD candidate Department of History, Classics, and Religion University of Alberta *The University of Alberta acknowledges that we are located on ???????????? (Amiskwac?w?skahikan) Treaty 6 territory, and respects the history, languages, and cultures of the First Nations, M?tis, Inuit, and all First Peoples of Canada, whose presence continues to enrich our institution.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The talk, while presenting the nuances of Indian multilingual situations, will focus on similarity of methods used in Sanskrit grammar, Linguistics and AI. In this context, there will be a presentation of the contributions of Panini, Saussure and Chomsky leading to the emergence of computational linguistics and AI. The National Education Policy of India launched in 2020 lays special emphasis on Mother Tongue education which poses real implementation challenges considering the multitude of languages and speech communities in India. While discussing the challenges posed by educating the millions in India, requirements of a flexible, scalable and cost-effective AI will be presented. The talk will survey the work being done in this area and will present implementation challenges and suggest solutions for designing, developing and deploying smart systems for delivering multilingual content. 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URL: From rpg at berkeley.edu Fri Mar 22 19:02:16 2024 From: rpg at berkeley.edu (Robert P. GOLDMAN) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 12:02:16 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: The Murty Publication Series References: Message-ID: <264E5C54-8156-4D67-8580-58BF4EF3EB06@berkeley.edu> Fyi, y?all. Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." Bob G. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Newell, Peggy" > Subject: RE: The Murty Publication Series > Date: March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT > To: "Robert P. GOLDMAN" > Cc: Harvard Provost > > Dear Dr. Goldman, > > Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please forgive the delay. > > In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision. > > I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to continuing the excellent work that they have done. > > Best, > Peggy Newell > > From: Robert P. GOLDMAN > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM > To: Harvard Provost > > Subject: The Murty Publication Series > > Dear Provost Garber, > > I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. > > Sincerely, > > > Dr. R.P. 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"The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series." Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but in the end it doesn't much matter." Or is there a nuance I'm missing....? Matthew T. Kapstein Professor emeritus Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris Associate The University of Chicago Divinity School https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein https://vajrabookshop.com/product/the-life-and-work-of-auleshi/ https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501716218/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-i/#bookTabs=1 https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501771255/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-ii/#bookTabs=1 https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/60949 Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. On Friday, March 22nd, 2024 at 8:02 PM, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY wrote: > Fyi, y?all. > > Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." > > Bob G. > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: "Newell, Peggy" >> Subject: RE: The Murty Publication Series >> >> Date: March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT >> To: "Robert P. GOLDMAN" >> Cc: Harvard Provost >> >> Dear Dr. Goldman, >> >> Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please forgive the delay. >> >> In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision. >> >> I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to continuing the excellent work that they have done. >> >> Best, >> Peggy Newell >> >> From:Robert P. GOLDMAN >> Sent:Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM >> To:Harvard Provost >> Subject:The Murty Publication Series >> >> Dear Provost Garber, >> >> I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Dr. R.P. Goldman >> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit and South Asian Studies Emeritus >> and >> Joint Editor of South Asia Across the Disciplines -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Sun Mar 24 10:07:18 2024 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H. (Herman)) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:07:18 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] email address Kesavan Veluthat Message-ID: Dear List Members, I try to contact Kesavan Veluthat. He has written a review article of my book on the A?oka inscriptions in Studies in People's History 2024, the electronic version is not yet availabe in the university library. The email I found on the internet does not work. I hope someone on the list can provide me with a recent email address of Kesavan. With kind regards, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com The A?oka Inscriptions: Analysing a corpus, New Delhi: Primus Books, 2023. https://primusbooks.com/ancient/the-asoka-inscriptions-analysing-a-corpus-by-herman-tieken/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He has written a review article of my book on the A?oka inscriptions in Studies in People's History 2024, the electronic version is not yet availabe in the university library. The email I found on the internet does not work. I hope someone on the list can provide me with a recent email address of Kesavan. > With kind regards, Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > The A?oka Inscriptions: Analysing a corpus, New Delhi: Primus Books, 2023. > https://primusbooks.com/ancient/the-asoka-inscriptions-analysing-a-corpus-by-herman-tieken/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Warmest regards, Paul Hackett > On Mar 23, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > > "These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision." > > Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > > "The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series." > > Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but in the end it doesn't much matter." > > Or is there a nuance I'm missing....? > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > > On Friday, March 22nd, 2024 at 8:02 PM, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY wrote: >> Fyi, y?all. >> >> Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." >> >> Bob G. >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: "Newell, Peggy" >>> Subject: RE: The Murty Publication Series >>> Date: March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT >>> To: "Robert P. GOLDMAN" >>> Cc: Harvard Provost >>> >>> Dear Dr. Goldman, >>> >>> Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please forgive the delay. >>> >>> In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision. >>> >>> I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to continuing the excellent work that they have done. >>> >>> Best, >>> Peggy Newell >>> >>> From: Robert P. GOLDMAN > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM >>> To: Harvard Provost > >>> Subject: The Murty Publication Series >>> >>> Dear Provost Garber, >>> >>> I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> >>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit and South Asian Studies Emeritus >>> and >>> Joint Editor of South Asia Across the Disciplines >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattkapstein at proton.me Sun Mar 24 13:11:15 2024 From: mattkapstein at proton.me (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 13:11:15 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Murty Publication Series In-Reply-To: <7B290841-F413-4F32-8494-84FE214D7852@columbia.edu> References: <264E5C54-8156-4D67-8580-58BF4EF3EB06@berkeley.edu> <7B290841-F413-4F32-8494-84FE214D7852@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Hi Paul, While I certainly wasn't generalizing beyond the present case, I don't believe that the present case is exactly an outlier either.... But that's an old story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPO68YaPgk best, Matthew Matthew T. Kapstein Professor emeritus Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris Associate The University of Chicago Divinity School https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein https://vajrabookshop.com/product/the-life-and-work-of-auleshi/ https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501716218/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-i/#bookTabs=1 https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501771255/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-ii/#bookTabs=1 https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/60949 Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. On Sunday, March 24th, 2024 at 1:23 PM, Paul Hackett wrote: > Hi Matthew, > >> Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > >> Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but in the end it doesn't much matter." > > So your conclusion is that, in academia, those in positions of authority can do whatever they want, and the accomplishments and qualifications of those under their power are utterly irrelevant to the decision-making process? > > You should write more about this. I?m sure any junior scholar who has ever had to deal with an academic hiring committee would love to hear more about your discovery. > > Warmest regards, > > Paul Hackett > >> On Mar 23, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> "These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision." >> >> Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." >> >> "The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series." >> >> Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but in the end it doesn't much matter." >> >> Or is there a nuance I'm missing....? >> >> Matthew T. Kapstein >> Professor emeritus >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris >> >> Associate >> The University of Chicago Divinity School >> >> On Friday, March 22nd, 2024 at 8:02 PM, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >>> Fyi, y?all. >>> >>> Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." >>> >>> Bob G. >>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> From: "Newell, Peggy" >>>> Subject: RE: The Murty Publication Series >>>> >>>> Date: March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT >>>> To: "Robert P. GOLDMAN" >>>> Cc: Harvard Provost >>>> >>>> Dear Dr. Goldman, >>>> >>>> Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please forgive the delay. >>>> >>>> In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the decision. >>>> >>>> I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to continuing the excellent work that they have done. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Peggy Newell >>>> >>>> From:Robert P. GOLDMAN >>>> Sent:Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM >>>> To:Harvard Provost >>>> Subject:The Murty Publication Series >>>> >>>> Dear Provost Garber, >>>> >>>> I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Dr. R.P. Goldman >>>> William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit and South Asian Studies Emeritus >>>> and >>>> Joint Editor of South Asia Across the Disciplines >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun Mar 24 13:50:44 2024 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 06:50:44 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Murty Publication Series In-Reply-To: References: <264E5C54-8156-4D67-8580-58BF4EF3EB06@berkeley.edu> <7B290841-F413-4F32-8494-84FE214D7852@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Perhaps, a demand was made by those who funded the Murty endowment to make changes in the editorial board, and Harvard responded to those demands. An explanation may emerge from that side. I believe there is more to this story than meets the eye. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 6:11?AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > While I certainly wasn't generalizing beyond the present case, > I don't believe that the present case is exactly an outlier either.... > But that's an old story > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPO68YaPgk > > best, > Matthew > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein > > https://vajrabookshop.com/product/the-life-and-work-of-auleshi/ > > > https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501716218/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-i/#bookTabs=1 > > > https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501771255/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-ii/#bookTabs=1 > > https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/60949 > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Sunday, March 24th, 2024 at 1:23 PM, Paul Hackett > wrote: > > Hi Matthew, > > Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > > > Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but > in the end it doesn't much matter." > > > So your conclusion is that, in academia, those in positions of authority > can do whatever they want, and the accomplishments and qualifications of > those under their power are utterly irrelevant to the decision-making > process? > > You should write more about this. I?m sure any junior scholar who has > ever had to deal with an academic hiring committee would love to hear more > about your discovery. > > Warmest regards, > > Paul Hackett > > > On Mar 23, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > "These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such > boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original > mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the > decision." > > Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > > "The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial > board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions > to this series." > > Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but > in the end it doesn't much matter." > > Or is there a nuance I'm missing....? > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > > On Friday, March 22nd, 2024 at 8:02 PM, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Fyi, y?all. > > Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." > > Bob G. > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *"Newell, Peggy" > *Subject: **RE: The Murty Publication Series* > *Date: *March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT > *To: *"Robert P. GOLDMAN" > *Cc: *Harvard Provost > > Dear Dr. Goldman, > > Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please > forgive the delay. > > In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard > University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the > Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to > the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent > with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically > reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series > and are within the purview of those who made the decision. > > I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that > the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have > made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to > continuing the excellent work that they have done. > > Best, > Peggy Newell > > *From:* Robert P. GOLDMAN > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM > *To:* Harvard Provost > *Subject:* The Murty Publication Series > > Dear Provost Garber, > > I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would > appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. > > Sincerely, > > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit and South Asian > Studies Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of South Asia Across the Disciplines > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Sun Mar 24 20:38:29 2024 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 14:38:29 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Murty Publication Series In-Reply-To: References: <264E5C54-8156-4D67-8580-58BF4EF3EB06@berkeley.edu> <7B290841-F413-4F32-8494-84FE214D7852@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Dear Matthew, I hope that everyone has clicked on the link, and listened to the song. Wow! How fitting! I did not expect that, in what I thought would just be some pop song. Since I am musically illiterate, my wife had to tell me that it is a takeoff on Frank Sinatra's famous song, "I did it my way." Thanks for this! Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, USA On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:12?AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > While I certainly wasn't generalizing beyond the present case, > I don't believe that the present case is exactly an outlier either.... > But that's an old story > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPO68YaPgk > > best, > Matthew > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > https://ephe.academia.edu/MatthewKapstein > > https://vajrabookshop.com/product/the-life-and-work-of-auleshi/ > > > https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501716218/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-i/#bookTabs=1 > > > https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501771255/tibetan-manuscripts-and-early-printed-books-volume-ii/#bookTabs=1 > > https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/60949 > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Sunday, March 24th, 2024 at 1:23 PM, Paul Hackett > wrote: > > Hi Matthew, > > Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > > > Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but > in the end it doesn't much matter." > > > So your conclusion is that, in academia, those in positions of authority > can do whatever they want, and the accomplishments and qualifications of > those under their power are utterly irrelevant to the decision-making > process? > > You should write more about this. I?m sure any junior scholar who has > ever had to deal with an academic hiring committee would love to hear more > about your discovery. > > Warmest regards, > > Paul Hackett > > > On Mar 23, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > "These changes were consistent with the governance requirements that such > boards be periodically reconstituted and closely aligned with the original > mission of the series and are within the purview of those who made the > decision." > > Translation into plain English: "Those who decided may decide." > > "The end result notwithstanding, I agree that the members of the editorial > board are all remarkable scholars who have made outstanding contributions > to this series." > > Translation into plain English: "They were a great group of scholars, but > in the end it doesn't much matter." > > Or is there a nuance I'm missing....? > > Matthew T. Kapstein > Professor emeritus > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, PSL Research University, Paris > > Associate > The University of Chicago Divinity School > > > On Friday, March 22nd, 2024 at 8:02 PM, Robert P. GOLDMAN via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Fyi, y?all. > > Not clear what they regard as the ?original mission." > > Bob G. > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *"Newell, Peggy" > *Subject: **RE: The Murty Publication Series* > *Date: *March 22, 2024 at 11:58:33?AM PDT > *To: *"Robert P. GOLDMAN" > *Cc: *Harvard Provost > > Dear Dr. Goldman, > > Interim President Garber asked me to respond to you on his behalf. Please > forgive the delay. > > In consultation with the Provost's Office at Harvard, the Harvard > University Press Board of Directors, and Harvard University Press, the > Murty Classical Library of India Oversight Board decided to make changes to > the MCLI Editorial Board at the end of 2023. These changes were consistent > with the governance requirements that such boards be periodically > reconstituted and closely aligned with the original mission of the series > and are within the purview of those who made the decision. > > I appreciate your concern. The end result notwithstanding, I agree that > the members of the editorial board are all remarkable scholars who have > made outstanding contributions to this series. We are fully committed to > continuing the excellent work that they have done. > > Best, > Peggy Newell > > *From:* Robert P. GOLDMAN > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 05, 2024 3:13 PM > *To:* Harvard Provost > *Subject:* The Murty Publication Series > > Dear Provost Garber, > > I imagine that you have been hearing a lot about this topic, but I would > appreciate it if you would read the attached letter. > > Sincerely, > > > Dr. R.P. Goldman > William and Catherine Magistretti Professor of Sanskrit and South Asian > Studies Emeritus > and > Joint Editor of South Asia Across the Disciplines > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 5:07?AM Robert Leach via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > For those who might be interested, the Zurich team's edition and > translation of Book 10 of the Paippal?da-Sa?hit? of the Atharvaveda is now > online (along with Books 1, 4 & 12) here > https://www.atharvaveda-online.uzh.ch/edition > > With best wishes, > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(DiSSGeA) Universit? degli Studi di Padova Palazzo del Liviano Piazza Capitaniato, 7 35139 Padova Tel. 049.827-4577 E-mail: fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it https://unipd.academia.edu/FabrizioFerrari Link ricevimento via Zoom: https://unipd.zoom.us/j/92913939701 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it Tue Mar 26 13:04:34 2024 From: fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it (Fabrizio Ferrari) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:04:34 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Joseph O'Connell's article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks to M?ns Broo and Aleksandar Uskokov who, in a matter of seconds, forwarded me a copy of the article. with best regards, Fabrizio Ferrari Professore ordinario di storia delle religioni Presidente del Corso di Laurea Magistrale in Scienze delle Religioni Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche, Geografiche e dell?Antichit? (DiSSGeA) Universit? degli Studi di Padova Palazzo del Liviano Piazza Capitaniato, 7 35139 Padova Tel. 049.827-4577 E-mail: fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it https://unipd.academia.edu/FabrizioFerrari Link ricevimento via Zoom: https://unipd.zoom.us/j/92913939701 Il giorno mar 26 mar 2024 alle ore 13:51 Fabrizio Ferrari < fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it> ha scritto: > Dear colleagues, > > I'm struggling to find the following article: Joseph O'Connell, Historicty > in the biographies of Caitanya, *Journal of Va??ava Studies*, 1(2), 1993, > pp. 102-132. > Does anybody have a copy to share, or know how to obtain one? > I thank in advance you for your kind attention. > Best regards > > Fabrizio Ferrari > > Professore ordinario di storia delle religioni > > Presidente del Corso di Laurea Magistrale in Scienze delle Religioni > > > Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche, Geografiche e dell?Antichit? (DiSSGeA) > > Universit? degli Studi di Padova > > Palazzo del Liviano > > Piazza Capitaniato, 7 > > 35139 Padova > > Tel. 049.827-4577 > > E-mail: fabrizio.ferrari.1 at unipd.it > > https://unipd.academia.edu/FabrizioFerrari > > Link ricevimento via Zoom: https://unipd.zoom.us/j/92913939701 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sohini.Pillai at kzoo.edu Tue Mar 26 14:01:14 2024 From: Sohini.Pillai at kzoo.edu (Sohini Pillai) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:01:14 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Book Announcement: Krishna's Mahabharatas Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, (With apologies for cross-posting!) I'm excited to share that my new book Krishna?s Mahabharatas: Devotional Retellings of An Epic Narrative (AAR?s Religion in Translation series), is now available from Oxford University Press. The publisher's description of the book is below. If you order the book directly from OUP's website you can save 30% with the promotion code AAFLYG6. Please note, however, that due to OUP?s systems changeover, they will not be able to take orders until the systems go live in mid to late April With best wishes, Sohini Book Description: Recognized as the longest poem ever composed, the ancient Sanskrit Mahabharata epic tells the tale of the five Pandava princes and the cataclysmic battle they wage with their one hundred cousins, the Kauravas. This story is one of the most popular and widely-told narratives in South Asia, let alone the world. Between 800 and 1700 CE, a plethora of Mahabharatas were created in Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Konkani, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Tamil, Telugu, and several other regional South Asian languages. Krishna's Mahabharatas: Devotional Retellings of an Epic Narrative is a comprehensive study of premodern regional Mahabharata retellings. This book argues that Vaishnavas (devotees of the Hindu god Vishnu and his various forms) throughout South Asia turned this epic about an apocalyptic, bloody war into works of ardent bhakti or ?devotion? focused on the beloved Hindu deity Krishna. Examining over forty retellings in eleven different regional South Asian languages composed over a period of nine hundred years, it focuses on two particular Mahabharatas: Villiputturar's fifteenth-century Tamil Paratam and Sabalsingh Chauhan's seventeenth-century Bhasha (Old Hindi) Mahabharat. Through close comparative readings, this book reveals the similar ways poets from opposite ends of the Indian sub-continent transform the story of the Sanskrit Mahabharata into devotional narratives centered on Krishna. At the same time, it also shows how these Mahabharatas are each unique pieces of religious literature that speak to different local audiences in premodern South Asia. -- Sohini Sarah Pillai, PhD (she/her/hers) Assistant Professor of Religion Director of Film and Media Studies Kalamazoo College www.sohinisarahpillai.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.a.maas at gmail.com Tue Mar 26 15:21:15 2024 From: philipp.a.maas at gmail.com (Philipp Maas) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:21:15 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Iconography_of_=C5=9B=C4=81stras?= Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, On the outer cover of the printed edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya* by Padmapras?da ??str? and Harir?ma ?ukla that was published as vol. 42 of the Kashi Sanskrit Series (fourth ed. 1990 ), I found an iconographic depiction of the philosophical system of Ny?ya as a human figure with a lion face, holding a *s?tra* and a *dhvaja* in the right and left hand, respectively (see attached image). The image is accompanied by an *anu??ubh*-caption, which reads *atas?pu?pasa?k??o ny?yo j?eyo vipa?cit?* / *si?h?sya dak?i?e s?tra? dhvaja? v?makare dadhan* //, suggesting that the colour of the personified *ny?ya*-system is light blue. Quite interestingly, the printed edition of the *M?navadharma??stra* together with Kull?kabha??a?s commentary, which was like the before-mentioned edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya *published by the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, has a similar depiction of *dharma??stra* which also is accompanied by a caption (see attached image). I was completely unaware of any personifications and iconographic representations of South Asian knowledge systems and wonder what the source(s) of the stanza on Ny?ya may be. Are these two cases of personification and iconographic representation of knowledge systems exclusively related to the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, or do they represent a broader tradition? I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me with this. With many thanks in advance and best wishes, Philipp __________________________ PD Dr. Philipp A. 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Veeranarayana Pandurangi posted on BVP list as follows: dear all, where we can find a sloka that describes the nayaypurusha atasipushpasankasho nyayo dhyeyo vipashcita simhasyo dakshine pasham dhvajam vamakare dadhan this verse is printed on the cover of Mathuri panchalakshani with commenatary of Ganga KSS Varanasi So this verse seems to be printed on some other publication also. On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:52?PM Philipp Maas via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > On the outer cover of the printed edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya* by > Padmapras?da ??str? and Harir?ma ?ukla that was published as vol. 42 of the > Kashi Sanskrit Series (fourth ed. 1990 > ), > I found an iconographic depiction of the philosophical system of Ny?ya as a > human figure with a lion face, holding a *s?tra* and a *dhvaja* in the > right and left hand, respectively (see attached image). The image is > accompanied by an *anu??ubh*-caption, which reads *atas?pu?pasa?k??o > ny?yo j?eyo vipa?cit?* / *si?h?sya dak?i?e s?tra? dhvaja? v?makare dadhan* > //, suggesting that the colour of the personified *ny?ya*-system is light > blue. > > > > Quite interestingly, the printed edition of the *M?navadharma??stra* together > with Kull?kabha??a?s commentary, which was like the before-mentioned > edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya *published by the Chaukhambha Sanskrit > Sansthan, has a similar depiction of *dharma??stra* which also is > accompanied by a caption (see attached image). > > > > I was completely unaware of any personifications and iconographic > representations of South Asian knowledge systems and wonder what the > source(s) of the stanza on Ny?ya may be. Are these two cases of > personification and iconographic representation of knowledge systems > exclusively related to the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, or do they > represent a broader tradition? > > > > I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me with this. > > > > With many thanks in advance and best wishes, > > > > Philipp > __________________________ > > PD Dr. Philipp A. Maas > Research Associate > Department of Indology and Central Asian Studies > University of Leipzig > ___________________________ > > https://spp1448.academia.edu/PhilippMaas > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Dean, IndicA BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue Mar 26 16:28:24 2024 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:58:24 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Iconography_of_=C5=9B=C4=81stras?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was able to locate the source of this and the pratimaarupas of other shaastras here Under the entry for ???????????? , shlokas for other shaastras are also given. On ????? ????, - ?????????? ????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ? ????????????? ?????? ????????????????????? - ?????????? ???????????????? ?????? ????????? ???????? ? ????????????? ????????????????? ????????? ? ?????????????????? ???????????????????? ? - ?????? ??????????????? ????? ?????? ????????? ? ?????- ??????????????? ?????? ??????????????????? ? ?????????-?????? ?????????????????? ? - ?????????? ????????? ?? ???????????????????????? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ?????????????????????????? ? - ?????????? ????????????????? ?????????????????????? ? ?????????? ????????? ???????????? ???? ? - ???????? ????????????????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ? ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ? - ?????????????? ????????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????????????????????? ???????????? ?????? ? - ???????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ????????? ? ????- ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????????? ? - ????????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????? ????????????????? ? - ??????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????- ???????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ? - ??????????? ?????????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????? ?????? ? - ??????????????? ?????????????? ???? ????? ?????????? ????- ??? ? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ? - ???????????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ????????? ? ????- ?????? ??? ????? ???????????????? ? - ????????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ???????? ? ????????????? ???? ??????????????????????? ? Continued on ????? ???? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? ? (????????????) ? - ?????????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????????????????????????? ? ???????????? ?????????????????? ? - ?????????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ?????????? ? On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:36?PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > On 10th April, 2012, prof. Veeranarayana Pandurangi posted on BVP list as > follows: > > dear all, > where we can find a sloka that describes the nayaypurusha > > atasipushpasankasho nyayo dhyeyo vipashcita > simhasyo dakshine pasham dhvajam vamakare dadhan > > > this verse is printed on the cover of Mathuri panchalakshani with > commenatary of Ganga KSS Varanasi > > So this verse seems to be printed on some other publication also. > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:52?PM Philipp Maas via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> On the outer cover of the printed edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya* by >> Padmapras?da ??str? and Harir?ma ?ukla that was published as vol. 42 of the >> Kashi Sanskrit Series (fourth ed. 1990 >> ), >> I found an iconographic depiction of the philosophical system of Ny?ya as a >> human figure with a lion face, holding a *s?tra* and a *dhvaja* in the >> right and left hand, respectively (see attached image). The image is >> accompanied by an *anu??ubh*-caption, which reads *atas?pu?pasa?k??o >> ny?yo j?eyo vipa?cit?* / *si?h?sya dak?i?e s?tra? dhvaja? v?makare >> dadhan* //, suggesting that the colour of the personified *ny?ya*-system >> is light blue. >> >> >> >> Quite interestingly, the printed edition of the *M?navadharma??stra* together >> with Kull?kabha??a?s commentary, which was like the before-mentioned >> edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya *published by the Chaukhambha Sanskrit >> Sansthan, has a similar depiction of *dharma??stra* which also is >> accompanied by a caption (see attached image). >> >> >> >> I was completely unaware of any personifications and iconographic >> representations of South Asian knowledge systems and wonder what the >> source(s) of the stanza on Ny?ya may be. Are these two cases of >> personification and iconographic representation of knowledge systems >> exclusively related to the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, or do they >> represent a broader tradition? >> >> >> >> I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me with this. >> >> >> >> With many thanks in advance and best wishes, >> >> >> >> Philipp >> __________________________ >> >> PD Dr. Philipp A. Maas >> Research Associate >> Department of Indology and Central Asian Studies >> University of Leipzig >> ___________________________ >> >> https://spp1448.academia.edu/PhilippMaas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Dean, IndicA BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue Mar 26 16:32:00 2024 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 22:02:00 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Iconography_of_=C5=9B=C4=81stras?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This page of vaachaspatyam is separately found here On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:58?PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > I was able to locate the source of this and the pratimaarupas of other > shaastras here > > > Under the entry for ???????????? , shlokas for other shaastras are also > given. > > On ????? ????, > > > - ?????????? ????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ? > > ????????????? ?????? ????????????????????? > > - ?????????? ???????????????? ?????? ????????? ???????? ? > > ????????????? ????????????????? ????????? ? ?????????????????? > ???????????????????? ? > > - ?????? ??????????????? ????? ?????? ????????? ? ?????- > > ??????????????? ?????? ??????????????????? ? ?????????-?????? > ?????????????????? ? > > - ?????????? ????????? ?? ???????????????????????? ????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ?????????????????????????? ? > > - ?????????? ????????????????? ?????????????????????? ? > > ?????????? ????????? ???????????? ???? ? > > - ???????? ????????????????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ? > > ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ? > > - ?????????????? ????????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? > > ????????????????????? ???????????? ?????? ? > > - ???????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ????????? ? ????- > > ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????????? ? > > - ????????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ??????? ????????????????? ? > > - ??????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????- > > ???????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ? > > - ??????????? ?????????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ? > > ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????? ?????? ? > > - ??????????????? ?????????????? ???? ????? ?????????? ????- > > ??? ? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ? > > - ???????????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ????????? ? ????- > > ?????? ??? ????? ???????????????? ? > > - ????????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ???????? ? > > ????????????? ???? ??????????????????????? ? > > Continued on ????? ???? > > ?????????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? > ?????? ??????????????? ? (????????????) ? > > - ?????????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????????????????????????? ? > > ???????????? ?????????????????? ? > > - ?????????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ????????????? ?????????? ? > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:36?PM Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> On 10th April, 2012, prof. Veeranarayana Pandurangi posted on BVP list as >> follows: >> >> dear all, >> where we can find a sloka that describes the nayaypurusha >> >> atasipushpasankasho nyayo dhyeyo vipashcita >> simhasyo dakshine pasham dhvajam vamakare dadhan >> >> >> this verse is printed on the cover of Mathuri panchalakshani with >> commenatary of Ganga KSS Varanasi >> >> So this verse seems to be printed on some other publication also. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:52?PM Philipp Maas via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> On the outer cover of the printed edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya* by >>> Padmapras?da ??str? and Harir?ma ?ukla that was published as vol. 42 of the >>> Kashi Sanskrit Series (fourth ed. 1990 >>> ), >>> I found an iconographic depiction of the philosophical system of Ny?ya as a >>> human figure with a lion face, holding a *s?tra* and a *dhvaja* in the >>> right and left hand, respectively (see attached image). The image is >>> accompanied by an *anu??ubh*-caption, which reads *atas?pu?pasa?k??o >>> ny?yo j?eyo vipa?cit?* / *si?h?sya dak?i?e s?tra? dhvaja? v?makare >>> dadhan* //, suggesting that the colour of the personified *ny?ya*-system >>> is light blue. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quite interestingly, the printed edition of the *M?navadharma??stra* together >>> with Kull?kabha??a?s commentary, which was like the before-mentioned >>> edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya *published by the Chaukhambha Sanskrit >>> Sansthan, has a similar depiction of *dharma??stra* which also is >>> accompanied by a caption (see attached image). >>> >>> >>> >>> I was completely unaware of any personifications and iconographic >>> representations of South Asian knowledge systems and wonder what the >>> source(s) of the stanza on Ny?ya may be. Are these two cases of >>> personification and iconographic representation of knowledge systems >>> exclusively related to the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, or do they >>> represent a broader tradition? >>> >>> >>> >>> I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me with this. >>> >>> >>> >>> With many thanks in advance and best wishes, >>> >>> >>> >>> Philipp >>> __________________________ >>> >>> PD Dr. Philipp A. Maas >>> Research Associate >>> Department of Indology and Central Asian Studies >>> University of Leipzig >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> https://spp1448.academia.edu/PhilippMaas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> Dean, IndicA >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Dean, IndicA BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wlharris at ucdavis.edu Tue Mar 26 23:37:10 2024 From: wlharris at ucdavis.edu (Westin Harris) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:37:10 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?On_Devad=C4=81ru_Forest/lingam_origin_narra?= =?utf-8?b?dGl2ZXMuLi4=?= Message-ID: Dear Indologists, I thought there would already be a thread on this topic, but my searches of the archives came up fruitless. I am looking to learn more about narratives of ?iva in the Devad?ru forest (cavorting with the sage's wives and rebuking the sages) as an origin story for the worship of *?ivali?ga*s. - What are the oldest datable examples of the Devad?ru forest narrative and/as the origin story for li?ga worship? (Pur??as or otherwise?) - I have heard contemporary traditions (especially in the South) refer to this form of ?iva as Bhik???ana. Is this epithet attested in the earliest sources, or does it develop later? - I have also heard the Devad?ru/Bhik???ana ?iva associated with narratives of ?iva's penance after beheading Brahm?. Is the Devad?ru forest narrative often associated with ?iva's brahmanicidal episode, or is this connection less common? (It seems to me that the Devad?ru forest narrative already hinges on topoi like transgression and expiation, as ?iva rebukes the sages for their transgressions but then provides his *li?gam* as a means to absolution, so I could see how the two vignettes might naturally overlap). As a disclaimer, I fully understand that dating puranic stories is often a nonstarter. Therefore, speaking of "earlier" and "later," or "often" and "common," can already be problematic. Still, I am hardly an expert in the vast puranic corpus, so any help is much appreciated. Thank you all. *Sincerely,* *Westin Harris* Ph.D. Candidate Study of Religion University of California, Davis https://religionsgrad.ucdavis.edu/people/westin-harris 2021 Dissertation Fellow, The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Program in Buddhist Studies Sarva Mangalam. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This wikipedia page on the Indian copyright law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_India states that for works published before 1958 the Indian Copyright Act, 1914 is applicable. And the Indian copyright act of 1914 (link below) https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/in/in121en. pdf page 20 (pdf page 16) states: 3. The term for which copyright shall subsist shall, except as otherwise exressly provided by this Act, be the life of the author and a period of 50 years after his death:. . . . Harry Spier On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 7:51?PM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Scholars, > > Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical Edition > of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more durable > than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? > > Thanks and best wishes, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gow.gowthamr at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 04:21:39 2024 From: gow.gowthamr at gmail.com (Gowtham R) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 09:51:39 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE In-Reply-To: <1711496970-4328117.98001412.f42QNnTuV2479740@rs6162.luxsci.com> References: <1711496970-4328117.98001412.f42QNnTuV2479740@rs6162.luxsci.com> Message-ID: Namaste, The Philosophy Department of Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE - Manipal University) has digitized three important editions of the Mahabharata (B.O.R.I, Kumbhakonam, and Sastri-Vavilla). You can access the digital versions of all three editions and some additional features through the link provided. Click here - Computational Analyses of Mah?bh?rata Warm regards, Gowtham On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:20?AM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Scholars, > > Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical Edition > of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more durable > than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? > > Thanks and best wishes, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Gowtham R* Assistant Professor Department of Sanskrit University of Patanjali Haridwar-Roorkee Phone: +91-9738201115 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Haas, BA MA* dominik at haas.asia | ORCID 0000-0002-8505-6112 | academia.edu DominikAHaas | hcommons DominikAHaas ?GRW | DMG | SDN | WPU Gonda Fellow, International Institute for Asian Studies, Leiden (2024) Post-DocTrack Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2023) Lecturer, University of Vienna (2023) Doc Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2020?2022) Books: ? G?yatr?: Mantra and Mother of the Vedas, https://doi.org/10.1553/978OEAW93906 (Roland Atefie Prize 2023) ? Vom Feueraltar zum Yoga. Kommentierte ?bersetzung und Koh?renzanalyse der Ka?ha-Upani?ad, https://hasp.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/catalog/preview ? Pu?pik? 6. Proceedings of the 12th International Indology Graduate Research Symposium (Vienna, 2021), https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1133 The Initiative for Fair Open Access Publishing in South Asian Studies foasas.org | contact at foasas.org Am 27.03.2024 um 05:21 schrieb Gowtham R via INDOLOGY: > Namaste, > > The Philosophy Department of Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE > - Manipal University) has digitized three important editions of the > Mahabharata (B.O.R.I, Kumbhakonam, and Sastri-Vavilla). You can access > the digital versions of all three editions and some additional > features through the link provided. > > Click here - Computational Analyses of Mah?bh?rata > > > Warm regards, > Gowtham > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:20?AM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Dear Scholars, > > Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical > Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for > sale more durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? > > Thanks and best wishes, > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > -- > *Gowtham R* > Assistant Professor > Department of Sanskrit > University of Patanjali > Haridwar-Roorkee > Phone: +91-9738201115 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Haas, BA MA wrote: > Dear Howard, dear Gowtham, > > there are several scans of the edition on archive.org, for example: > https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22Bhandarkar+Oriental+Research+Institute%2C+Poona%22 > > It might just be me or my browsers, but where exactly do I have to click > on the MAHE website to access the editions? > > Best regards > Dominik > > > __________________ > *Dr. Dominik A. Haas, BA MA* > dominik at haas.asia | ORCID 0000-0002-8505-6112 > | academia.edu DominikAHaas > | hcommons DominikAHaas > > ?GRW | DMG > | SDN > | > WPU > Gonda Fellow, International Institute for Asian Studies, Leiden (2024) > Post-DocTrack Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2023) > Lecturer, University of Vienna (2023) > Doc Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2020?2022) > > Books: > ? G?yatr?: Mantra and Mother of the Vedas, > https://doi.org/10.1553/978OEAW93906 (Roland Atefie Prize 2023) > ? Vom Feueraltar zum Yoga. Kommentierte ?bersetzung und Koh?renzanalyse > der Ka?ha-Upani?ad, https://hasp.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/catalog/preview > ? Pu?pik? 6. Proceedings of the 12th International Indology Graduate > Research Symposium (Vienna, 2021), https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1133 > > > The Initiative for Fair Open Access Publishing in South Asian Studies > foasas.org | contact at foasas.org > > > > > > Am 27.03.2024 um 05:21 schrieb Gowtham R via INDOLOGY: >> Namaste, >> >> The Philosophy Department of Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE >> - Manipal University) has digitized three important editions of the >> Mahabharata (B.O.R.I, Kumbhakonam, and Sastri-Vavilla). You can access >> the digital versions of all three editions and some additional >> features through the link provided. >> >> Click here - Computational Analyses of Mah?bh?rata >> >> >> Warm regards, >> Gowtham >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:20?AM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY >> wrote: >> >> Dear Scholars, >> >> Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical >> Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for >> sale more durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? >> >> Thanks and best wishes, >> Howard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> >> -- >> *Gowtham R* >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Sanskrit >> University of Patanjali >> Haridwar-Roorkee >> Phone: +91-9738201115 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au Wed Mar 27 09:21:32 2024 From: m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au (Martin Gluckman) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 09:21:32 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Video recordings of the 7th ISCLS presentations Message-ID: Dear All, I am most delighted to share the video recordings of the 7th ISCLS presentations are now available herewith: https://iscls.github.io/program.html Program • 7th ISCLS 2024 ISCLS is a forum for original and unpublished research on various aspects of Computational Linguistics and Digital Humanities related to Sanskrit (Classical ... iscls.github.io With kindest wishes, Martin Gluckman Organizing Chair 7th ISCLS [7th International Sanskrit Computational Linguistics Symposium] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M?rz 2024 um 17:29 Uhr schrieb Nagaraj Paturi < nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>: > I was able to locate the source of this and the pratimaarupas of other > shaastras here > > > Under the entry for ???????????? , shlokas for other shaastras are also > given. > > On ????? ????, > > > - ?????????? ????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ? > > ????????????? ?????? ????????????????????? > > - ?????????? ???????????????? ?????? ????????? ???????? ? > > ????????????? ????????????????? ????????? ? ?????????????????? > ???????????????????? ? > > - ?????? ??????????????? ????? ?????? ????????? ? ?????- > > ??????????????? ?????? ??????????????????? ? ?????????-?????? > ?????????????????? ? > > - ?????????? ????????? ?? ???????????????????????? ????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ?????????????????????????? ? > > - ?????????? ????????????????? ?????????????????????? ? > > ?????????? ????????? ???????????? ???? ? > > - ???????? ????????????????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ? > > ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ? > > - ?????????????? ????????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? > > ????????????????????? ???????????? ?????? ? > > - ???????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ????????? ? ????- > > ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????????? ? > > - ????????? ???????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ??????? ????????????????? ? > > - ??????????? ????????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????- > > ???????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ? > > - ??????????? ?????????? ????????? ????????? ????????? ? > > ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????? ?????? ? > > - ??????????????? ?????????????? ???? ????? ?????????? ????- > > ??? ? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ? > > - ???????????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ????????? ? ????- > > ?????? ??? ????? ???????????????? ? > > - ????????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????????? ???????? ? > > ????????????? ???? ??????????????????????? ? > > Continued on ????? ???? > > ?????????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? > ?????? ??????????????? ? (????????????) ? > > - ?????????? ????????? ??? ????? ?????????????????????????? ? > > ???????????? ?????????????????? ? > > - ?????????????? ????????????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ? > > ?????????? ??? ????????????? ?????????? ? > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:36?PM Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> On 10th April, 2012, prof. Veeranarayana Pandurangi posted on BVP list as >> follows: >> >> dear all, >> where we can find a sloka that describes the nayaypurusha >> >> atasipushpasankasho nyayo dhyeyo vipashcita >> simhasyo dakshine pasham dhvajam vamakare dadhan >> >> >> this verse is printed on the cover of Mathuri panchalakshani with >> commenatary of Ganga KSS Varanasi >> >> So this verse seems to be printed on some other publication also. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:52?PM Philipp Maas via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> On the outer cover of the printed edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya* by >>> Padmapras?da ??str? and Harir?ma ?ukla that was published as vol. 42 of the >>> Kashi Sanskrit Series (fourth ed. 1990 >>> ), >>> I found an iconographic depiction of the philosophical system of Ny?ya as a >>> human figure with a lion face, holding a *s?tra* and a *dhvaja* in the >>> right and left hand, respectively (see attached image). The image is >>> accompanied by an *anu??ubh*-caption, which reads *atas?pu?pasa?k??o >>> ny?yo j?eyo vipa?cit?* / *si?h?sya dak?i?e s?tra? dhvaja? v?makare >>> dadhan* //, suggesting that the colour of the personified *ny?ya*-system >>> is light blue. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quite interestingly, the printed edition of the *M?navadharma??stra* together >>> with Kull?kabha??a?s commentary, which was like the before-mentioned >>> edition of the *Ny?yabh??ya *published by the Chaukhambha Sanskrit >>> Sansthan, has a similar depiction of *dharma??stra* which also is >>> accompanied by a caption (see attached image). >>> >>> >>> >>> I was completely unaware of any personifications and iconographic >>> representations of South Asian knowledge systems and wonder what the >>> source(s) of the stanza on Ny?ya may be. Are these two cases of >>> personification and iconographic representation of knowledge systems >>> exclusively related to the Chaukhambha Sanskrit Sansthan, or do they >>> represent a broader tradition? >>> >>> >>> >>> I would greatly appreciate any help you could give me with this. >>> >>> >>> >>> With many thanks in advance and best wishes, >>> >>> >>> >>> Philipp >>> __________________________ >>> >>> PD Dr. Philipp A. Maas >>> Research Associate >>> Department of Indology and Central Asian Studies >>> University of Leipzig >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> https://spp1448.academia.edu/PhilippMaas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> Dean, IndicA >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please note, however, > that due to OUP?s systems changeover, they will not be able to take orders > until the systems go live in mid to late April > > > > With best wishes, > > Sohini > > > > *Book Description:* > > > > Recognized as the longest poem ever composed, the ancient Sanskrit > *Mahabharata* epic tells the tale of the five Pandava princes and the > cataclysmic battle they wage with their one hundred cousins, the Kauravas. > This story is one of the most popular and widely-told narratives in South > Asia, let alone the world. Between 800 and 1700 CE, a plethora of > Mahabharatas were created in Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, > Konkani, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Tamil, Telugu, and several other > regional South Asian languages. > > > > *Krishna's Mahabharatas: Devotional Retellings of an Epic Narrative* is a > comprehensive study of premodern regional Mahabharata retellings. This book > argues that Vaishnavas (devotees of the Hindu god Vishnu and his various > forms) throughout South Asia turned this epic about an apocalyptic, bloody > war into works of ardent *bhakti *or ?devotion? focused on the beloved > Hindu deity Krishna. Examining over forty retellings in eleven different > regional South Asian languages composed over a period of nine hundred > years, it focuses on two particular Mahabharatas: Villiputturar's > fifteenth-century Tamil *Paratam* and Sabalsingh Chauhan's > seventeenth-century Bhasha (Old Hindi) *Mahabharat*. > > > > Through close comparative readings, this book reveals the similar ways > poets from opposite ends of the Indian sub-continent transform the story of > the Sanskrit *Mahabharata* into devotional narratives centered on > Krishna. At the same time, it also shows how these Mahabharatas are each > unique pieces of religious literature that speak to different local > audiences in premodern South Asia. > > > > > > -- > > > > Sohini Sarah Pillai, PhD (she/her/hers) > > > > Assistant Professor of Religion > > Director of Film and Media Studies > > Kalamazoo College > > > > www.sohinisarahpillai.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Diamond and Pranav Prakash to cultivate cutting-edge research and scholarship on Mithila-related subjects with a view to making lasting contributions to the broader humanities, social sciences and arts. As our inaugural venture, we organized a day-long hybrid symposium at the 50th Annual Conference on South Asia, at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, US, on October 19, 2022. Building on the success of our symposium, we have edited a special issue for *Asian Ethnology*, which initiates new lines of inquiry within Mithila Studies while also illustrating the productive ways in which research on Mithila Studies can transform the broader academy. To learn more about our research work and academic outreach, please visit our website: www.mithilastudies.org. Our virtual retreat this May is designed as an opportunity for interested participants?those with whom we?ve already engaged and those we have yet to meet?to develop their own research projects on Mithila Studies and to seek any kind of support and assistance from our collaborative network. Over the course of approximately two hours in retreat, we expect to share our individual research ideas, brainstorm thematic, methodological and theoretical overlaps, and consider scholarly formats together. Please note that our retreat is not a venue for presenting academic papers. If you wish to participate in our retreat, please register using *this online form* by *the deadline of May 1, 2024*. If you know of anyone who would benefit from our planned retreat and research network, please forward our email to them. We would very much appreciate your help in spreading the word. If you have questions about our retreat or network, please reach out to us at contact at mithilastudies.org. 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Haas, BA MA > dominik at haas.asia | ORCID 0000-0002-8505-6112 | academia.edu DominikAHaas | hcommons DominikAHaas > ?GRW | DMG | SDN | WPU > Gonda Fellow, International Institute for Asian Studies, Leiden (2024) > Post-DocTrack Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2023) > Lecturer, University of Vienna (2023) > Doc Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2020?2022) > > Books: > ? G?yatr?: Mantra and Mother of the Vedas, https://doi.org/10.1553/978OEAW93906 (Roland Atefie Prize 2023) > ? Vom Feueraltar zum Yoga. Kommentierte ?bersetzung und Koh?renzanalyse der Ka?ha-Upani?ad, https://hasp.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/catalog/preview > ? Pu?pik? 6. Proceedings of the 12th International Indology Graduate Research Symposium (Vienna, 2021), https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1133 > > > The Initiative for Fair Open Access Publishing in South Asian Studies > foasas.org | contact at foasas.org > > > > > Am 27.03.2024 um 05:21 schrieb Gowtham R via INDOLOGY: >> Namaste, >> >> The Philosophy Department of Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE - Manipal University) has digitized three important editions of the Mahabharata (B.O.R.I, Kumbhakonam, and Sastri-Vavilla). You can access the digital versions of all three editions and some additional features through the link provided. >> >> Click here - Computational Analyses of Mah?bh?rata >> >> Warm regards, >> Gowtham >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:20?AM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>> Dear Scholars, >>> >>> Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? >>> >>> Thanks and best wishes, >>> Howard >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> -- >> Gowtham R >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Sanskrit >> University of Patanjali >> Haridwar-Roorkee >> Phone: +91-9738201115 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The publisher's description of the book is below. >> >> >> >> If you order the book directly from OUP's website >> >> you can save 30% with the promotion code AAFLYG6. Please note, however, >> that due to OUP?s systems changeover, they will not be able to take orders >> until the systems go live in mid to late April >> >> >> >> With best wishes, >> >> Sohini >> >> >> >> *Book Description:* >> >> >> >> Recognized as the longest poem ever composed, the ancient Sanskrit >> *Mahabharata* epic tells the tale of the five Pandava princes and the >> cataclysmic battle they wage with their one hundred cousins, the Kauravas. >> This story is one of the most popular and widely-told narratives in South >> Asia, let alone the world. Between 800 and 1700 CE, a plethora of >> Mahabharatas were created in Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, >> Konkani, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Tamil, Telugu, and several other >> regional South Asian languages. >> >> >> >> *Krishna's Mahabharatas: Devotional Retellings of an Epic Narrative* is >> a comprehensive study of premodern regional Mahabharata retellings. This >> book argues that Vaishnavas (devotees of the Hindu god Vishnu and his >> various forms) throughout South Asia turned this epic about an apocalyptic, >> bloody war into works of ardent *bhakti *or ?devotion? focused on the >> beloved Hindu deity Krishna. Examining over forty retellings in eleven >> different regional South Asian languages composed over a period of nine >> hundred years, it focuses on two particular Mahabharatas: Villiputturar's >> fifteenth-century Tamil *Paratam* and Sabalsingh Chauhan's >> seventeenth-century Bhasha (Old Hindi) *Mahabharat*. >> >> >> >> Through close comparative readings, this book reveals the similar ways >> poets from opposite ends of the Indian sub-continent transform the story of >> the Sanskrit *Mahabharata* into devotional narratives centered on >> Krishna. At the same time, it also shows how these Mahabharatas are each >> unique pieces of religious literature that speak to different local >> audiences in premodern South Asia. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Sohini Sarah Pillai, PhD (she/her/hers) >> >> >> >> Assistant Professor of Religion >> >> Director of Film and Media Studies >> >> Kalamazoo College >> >> >> >> www.sohinisarahpillai.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This Tibetan edition is not accessible at the Buddhist Digital Resource Center, because it is in copyright, even though I have not seen any copy available for purchase. So if anyone has a scan of this Tibetan text in this edition, it would be helpful to post it. Thanks. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. >> >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 17:57, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info >> > >> wrote: >> >> Sharada Rani reproduced this manuscript in 1977, as vol. 236 of the >> Sata-Pitaka Series. Despite trying several times over the years, I have >> never been able to find and obtain a copy, nor have I been able to find a >> digital copy in recent years. Does anyone have one? I have often wanted to >> consult it, and especially would like to now. Thanks. >> >> Best regards, >> >> David Reigle >> Colorado, U.S.A. >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vasishtha.spier at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 20:53:11 2024 From: vasishtha.spier at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:53:11 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE on archive.org In-Reply-To: References: <1711496970-4328117.98001412.f42QNnTuV2479740@rs6162.luxsci.com> <1711555536-5867260.05820983.f42RG5ZSs3412166@rs6162.luxsci.com> <1711567866-9858596.47307507.f42RJV4Df3620328@rs6162.luxsci.com> Message-ID: In case it is of interest to anyone else, here are links to volumes 1 thru 19 of Mahabharata on archive.org. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Harry Spier Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:51?PM Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE To: Howard Resnick
Hi Howard, Here are the links to pdfs of volumes 1 thru 19 on archive.org vol. 1 https://archive.org/download/SukthankarMbhAdiparvan20141026/Sukthankar_Mbh_%C4%81diparvan_2014-10-26.pdf vol.2 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.283220/2015.283220.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 3 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327550/2015.327550.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 4 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327556/2015.327556.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol 5 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327557/2015.327557.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 6 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327547/2015.327547.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 7 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327549/2015.327549.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 8 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327548/2015.327548.The-Mahabharata.pdf Vol. 9 https://archive.org/download/dli.ernet.277473/277473-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 10 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327555/2015.327555.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol 11 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.485492/2015.485492.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 12 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327551/2015.327551.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 13 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.485851/2015.485851.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 14 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327558/2015.327558.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 15 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.486148/2015.486148.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 16 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327561/2015.327561.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 17 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327560/2015.327560.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 18 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327565/2015.327565.The-Mahabharata.pdf vol. 19 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327564/2015.327564.The-Mahabharata.pdf Harry Spier On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:31?PM Howard Resnick
wrote: > My sincere gratitude. > > On Mar 27, 2024, at 12:32?PM, Harry Spier > wrote: > > Ill send you the links later today > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024, 12:05?PM Howard Resnick
wrote: > >> Greetings Harry! >> >> I?m afraid I am rather inept at internet searches and am having trouble >> finding the BORI MBh at archive.org. Any help here would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> Howard >> >> On Mar 26, 2024, at 9:19?PM, Harry Spier >> wrote: >> >> Hi Howard, >> A quick look at archive.org shows that many of the earlier volumes are >> downloadable . I see up to vol. 19 by Sukthankar. >> Harry Spier >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:03?PM Harry Spier >> wrote: >> >>> Dear list members, >>> Shouldn't many of the volumes of the BORI critical edition now be in the >>> public domain?. >>> This wikipedia page on the Indian copyright law >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_India >>> states that for works published before 1958 the Indian Copyright Act, >>> 1914 is applicable. >>> And the Indian copyright act of 1914 (link below) >>> https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/in/in121en. >>> pdf page 20 (pdf page 16) states: >>> 3. The term for which copyright shall subsist shall, except as otherwise >>> exressly provided by this Act, be the life of the author and a period of 50 >>> years after his death:. . . . >>> >>> Harry Spier >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 7:51?PM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Scholars, >>>> >>>> Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical >>>> Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more >>>> durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? >>>> >>>> Thanks and best wishes, >>>> Howard >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hr at ivs.edu Wed Mar 27 21:42:54 2024 From: hr at ivs.edu (Howard Resnick) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:42:54 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE on archive.org In-Reply-To: References: <1711496970-4328117.98001412.f42QNnTuV2479740@rs6162.luxsci.com> <1711555536-5867260.05820983.f42RG5ZSs3412166@rs6162.luxsci.com> <1711567866-9858596.47307507.f42RJV4Df3620328@rs6162.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <1711575786-1021365.08480081.f42RLh4uN3752075@rs6162.luxsci.com> Having already thanked Harry privately, I must again express here how grateful I am for his kindly providing this, especially because I had trouble downloading it myself. Howard > On Mar 27, 2024, at 4:53?PM, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > > In case it is of interest to anyone else, here are links to volumes 1 thru 19 of Mahabharata on archive.org . > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Harry Spier > > Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:51?PM > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE > To: Howard Resnick
> > > > Hi Howard, > Here are the links to pdfs of volumes 1 thru 19 on archive.org > vol. 1 https://archive.org/download/SukthankarMbhAdiparvan20141026/Sukthankar_Mbh_%C4%81diparvan_2014-10-26.pdf > vol.2 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.283220/2015.283220.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 3 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327550/2015.327550.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 4 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327556/2015.327556.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol 5 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327557/2015.327557.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 6 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327547/2015.327547.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 7 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327549/2015.327549.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 8 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327548/2015.327548.The-Mahabharata.pdf > Vol. 9 https://archive.org/download/dli.ernet.277473/277473-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 10 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327555/2015.327555.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol 11 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.485492/2015.485492.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 12 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327551/2015.327551.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 13 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.485851/2015.485851.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 14 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327558/2015.327558.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 15 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.486148/2015.486148.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 16 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327561/2015.327561.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 17 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327560/2015.327560.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 18 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327565/2015.327565.The-Mahabharata.pdf > vol. 19 https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.327564/2015.327564.The-Mahabharata.pdf > Harry Spier > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:31?PM Howard Resnick
> wrote: >> My sincere gratitude. >> >>> On Mar 27, 2024, at 12:32?PM, Harry Spier > wrote: >>> >>> Ill send you the links later today >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024, 12:05?PM Howard Resnick
> wrote: >>>> Greetings Harry! >>>> >>>> I?m afraid I am rather inept at internet searches and am having trouble finding the BORI MBh at archive.org . Any help here would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Howard >>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2024, at 9:19?PM, Harry Spier > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Howard, >>>>> A quick look at archive.org shows that many of the earlier volumes are downloadable . I see up to vol. 19 by Sukthankar. >>>>> Harry Spier >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:03?PM Harry Spier > wrote: >>>>>> Dear list members, >>>>>> Shouldn't many of the volumes of the BORI critical edition now be in the public domain?. >>>>>> This wikipedia page on the Indian copyright law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_India >>>>>> states that for works published before 1958 the Indian Copyright Act, 1914 is applicable. >>>>>> And the Indian copyright act of 1914 (link below) >>>>>> https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/in/in121en. >>>>>> pdf page 20 (pdf page 16) states: >>>>>> 3. The term for which copyright shall subsist shall, except as otherwise exressly provided by this Act, be the life of the author and a period of 50 years after his death:. . . . >>>>>> >>>>>> Harry Spier >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 7:51?PM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY > wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Scholars, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and best wishes, >>>>>>> Howard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Haas, BA MA < dominik at haas.asia> wrote: > Dear Howard, dear Gowtham, > > there are several scans of the edition on archive.org, for example: > https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22Bhandarkar+Oriental+Research+Institute%2C+Poona%22 > > It might just be me or my browsers, but where exactly do I have to click > on the MAHE website to access the editions? > > Best regards > Dominik > > > __________________ > *Dr. Dominik A. Haas, BA MA* > dominik at haas.asia | ORCID 0000-0002-8505-6112 > | academia.edu DominikAHaas > | hcommons DominikAHaas > > ?GRW | DMG > | SDN > | > WPU > Gonda Fellow, International Institute for Asian Studies, Leiden (2024) > Post-DocTrack Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2023) > Lecturer, University of Vienna (2023) > Doc Fellow, Austrian Academy of Sciences (2020?2022) > > Books: > ? G?yatr?: Mantra and Mother of the Vedas, > https://doi.org/10.1553/978OEAW93906 (Roland Atefie Prize 2023) > ? Vom Feueraltar zum Yoga. Kommentierte ?bersetzung und Koh?renzanalyse > der Ka?ha-Upani?ad, https://hasp.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/catalog/preview > ? Pu?pik? 6. Proceedings of the 12th International Indology Graduate > Research Symposium (Vienna, 2021), https://doi.org/10.11588/hasp.1133 > > > The Initiative for Fair Open Access Publishing in South Asian Studies > foasas.org | contact at foasas.org > > > > > > Am 27.03.2024 um 05:21 schrieb Gowtham R via INDOLOGY: > > Namaste, > > The Philosophy Department of Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE - > Manipal University) has digitized three important editions of the > Mahabharata (B.O.R.I, Kumbhakonam, and Sastri-Vavilla). You can access the > digital versions of all three editions and some additional features through > the link provided. > > Click here - Computational Analyses of Mah?bh?rata > > > Warm regards, > Gowtham > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 5:20?AM Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Scholars, >> >> Is there any way to get a digital version of the B.O.R.I. Critical >> Edition of Mahabharata? If not, are the hard copies that are for sale more >> durable than the old ones which seem to fall apart with use? >> >> Thanks and best wishes, >> Howard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > *Gowtham R* > Assistant Professor > Department of Sanskrit > University of Patanjali > Haridwar-Roorkee > Phone: +91-9738201115 > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- *Gowtham R* Assistant Professor Department of Sanskrit University of Patanjali Haridwar-Roorkee Phone: +91-9738201115 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are the items in view mode on archive: ## Mah?bh?rata ### BORI Critical Edition - [vol. 1](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t9b59hx0t) - [vol. 2](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t87h6t06f) - [vol. 3](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t4zh1s83p) - [vol. 4](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t18m2mz6d) - [vol. 5](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t6256s42b) - [vol. 6](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t9q290k0h) - [vol. 7](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t77t2z606) - [vol. 8](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t54f7671n) - [vol. 9](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t5jb5q41f) - [vol. 10](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t2p60z01p) - [vol. 11](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t16m8ns5r) - [vol. 12](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t0qs01f0g) - [vol. 13](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t3gx9t774) - [vol. 14](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t85j2vj9p) - [vol. 15](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t6353wp2x) - [vol. 16](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t8wb0fc4r) - [vol. 17](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t75t91k4x) - [vol. 18](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t11p3776b) - [vol. 19](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t54f73w1x) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vasishtha.spier at gmail.com Thu Mar 28 21:56:26 2024 From: vasishtha.spier at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:56:26 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata CE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think this is the complete critical edition. B.O.RI.'s website says: The completed Critical Edition of the Mahabharata (18 Parvan-s; 89000+ verses in the Constituted Text, and an elaborate Critical Apparatus; 19 Volumes: No. of pages: 15000+ demi-quarto size) was released on September 22, 1966 at the hands of Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, the then President of India. Harry Spier On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 5:44?PM Deepro Chakraborty via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Thanks for sharing the download links Harry. > > Here are the items in view mode on archive: > > ## Mah?bh?rata > > ### BORI Critical Edition > > - [vol. 1](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t9b59hx0t) > - [vol. 2](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t87h6t06f) > - [vol. 3](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t4zh1s83p) > - [vol. 4](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t18m2mz6d) > - [vol. 5](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t6256s42b) > - [vol. 6](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t9q290k0h) > - [vol. 7](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t77t2z606) > - [vol. 8](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t54f7671n) > - [vol. 9](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t5jb5q41f) > - [vol. 10](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t2p60z01p) > - [vol. 11](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t16m8ns5r) > - [vol. 12](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t0qs01f0g) > - [vol. 13](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t3gx9t774) > - [vol. 14](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t85j2vj9p) > - [vol. 15](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t6353wp2x) > - [vol. 16](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t8wb0fc4r) > - [vol. 17](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t75t91k4x) > - [vol. 18](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t11p3776b) > - [vol. 19](https://n2t.net/ark:/13960/t54f73w1x) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The link to an extract may be found here: https://bit.ly/sanskritlove I would be happy to send a copy if anyone wants to write a review for a journal or a media outlet. India: https://amzn.in/d/j54a2VZ US: https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31785397683 UK: https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31785436213 Available on Amazon Kindle worldwide. Regards, Anusha Rao PhD Candidate Department for the Study of Religion University of Toronto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gabriel.filosofia at hotmail.com Fri Mar 29 17:46:54 2024 From: gabriel.filosofia at hotmail.com (Gabriel Martino) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:46:54 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Virtual Sanskrit Course in Spanish Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Our Introductory Sanskrit Course starts next week. Meetings are via Zoom on Wednesdays 2:00 to 3:30 pm. Buenos Aires time (= 1:00 to 2:30 pm. EST). The course is taught in Spanish and is structured in four modules of seven weeks each. Please, if you know students who could be interested in learning Sanskrit in Spanish, I would appreciate if you share the information with them. Thank you very much, Gabriel Martino [cid:68abbe45-8df0-4d3f-b037-b184c22af232] https://www.instagram.com/espaciovidya/ Gabriel Martino holds a PhD in Philosophy from the University of Buenos Aires and received a Fulbright postdoctoral scholarship in 2021 to work under the supervision of Dr. Edwin Bryant on a project focused on Indian philosophy. He teaches Sanskrit, Ancient Greek and Ancient Philosophy at Argentinean Universities and is an associate researcher of the CONICET and of the Institute of Philosophy & Technology of Athens, Greece. He also belongs to the YoLA project (https://proyectoyola.colmex.mx/). 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Deadline for submission is *May 17, 2024.* Archana ========== *The Mohini Jain Presidential Chair in Jain Studies Best Dissertation* * PrizeDepartment of Religious StudiesUniversity of California, Davis**Deadline: Friday, May 17, 2024* The Department of Religious Studies at the University of California, Davis is now accepting submissions for the bi-annual dissertation prize in Jain Studies. The prize uses the generous gift of Mrs. Mohini Jain to celebrate the depth and vibrancy of scholarship on Jainism across the world. The prize comes with a *$1500 cash prize*, a citation, and an invitation to deliver a talk based on the dissertation at UC Davis. This invited lecture will take place in person (circumstances permitting) during the 2024-2025 academic year, and we will cover the costs of travel and local hospitality. To be eligible, a dissertation must be written in English and engage in a substantive way with the field of Jain Studies. We encourage submissions from around the world and from scholars in any disciplinary field. Dissertations that bring Jainism into conversations with other religious traditions and practices are also welcome. Only dissertations completed and submitted (or defended) in the *2022-2023* or *2023-2024* academic years are eligible. Applicants who submit a dissertation for consideration for the dissertation prize *may not* also submit a graduate essay for The Mohini Jain Presidential Chair in Jain Studies Best Graduate Essay Prize. Anyone submitting to both prizes will be automatically disqualified from consideration. The winner will be announced in August 2024. Submit the following information in a *single PDF in the order listed below* to rstprizes at ucdavis.edu by midnight, *Friday, May 17, 2024*. Please put the following in the email?s subject line: *Submission for Mohini Jain Dissertation Prize*. We will not accept late submissions. Email confirmations will be sent within two weeks of receipt of the submission. 1. A formal, signed, brief nomination letter on official letterhead, from the graduate student?s main advisor/dissertation director. The letter must state the date that the dissertation was completed, submitted, and accepted by the student?s committee. 2. The complete dissertation?this includes appendices and bibliography. 3. A short CV (2 pages, listing the student?s educational background and employment history if applicable). *The* * Mohini Jain Presidential Chair in Jain Studies Best Graduate Essay PrizeDepartment of Religious StudiesUniversity of California, Davis**Deadline: Friday, May 17, 2024* The Department of Religious Studies at the University of California, Davis is now accepting submissions for the bi-annual prize for the best graduate essay in Jain Studies. The prize uses the generous gift of Mrs. Mohini Jain to celebrate the depth and vibrancy of scholarship on Jainism across the world. The prize comes with a *$750* cash prize and a citation. To be eligible, the graduate essay must be written in English on any topic relating to Jainism and/or within the field of Jain Studies. Only essays written by graduate students currently enrolled in a graduate program (MA or PhD) and submitted in a regular graduate course during the *2022-2023* or *2023-2024* academic years are eligible. We encourage submissions from around the world and from graduate students in any disciplinary field and at any stage in their graduate careers. Graduate essays that bring Jainism into conversations with other religious traditions and practices are also welcome. The submitted essay may not be longer than *30* double-spaced pages in a standard 12-point font with 1-inch margins. It is expected that the graduate essay will be properly formatted according to an accepted academic citation method (MLA, Chicago, APA). Each applicant may only submit *one* essay. Students who submit more than one essay will not be considered for the prize. Applicants who submit a graduate essay for consideration for the best graduate essay prize *may not* also submit a dissertation to be considered for The Mohini Jain Presidential Chair in Jain Studies Best Dissertation Prize. Anyone submitting to both prizes will be automatically disqualified from consideration. The winner will be announced in August 2024. Submit the following information in a *single PDF in the order listed below* to rstprizes at ucdavis.edu by *midnight, **Friday, May 17, 2024*. Please put the following in the email?s subject line: *Submission for Mohini Jain Graduate Essay Prize*. We will not accept late submissions. Email confirmations will be sent within two weeks of receipt of the submission. 1. A brief, signed, formal letter on official letterhead from the student?s program stating their full name, their graduate program (Discipline and University), whether they are enrolled in an MA or PhD program, and their progress towards the degree. This letter may be written by the student?s advisor or the program?s graduate advisor. 2. A signed, formal letter on official letterhead from the instructor in whose course the essay was written. The letter must include the information about the course and the term in which the essay was submitted and accepted. 3. The essay, no longer than *30* double-spaced pages, in a standard 12-point font, with 1-inch margins. The essay should be properly formatted, carry complete citations, and include a Works Cited page. 4. 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Andrew On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 8:37?PM Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > I've just found one myself in the Amara??k?sarvasva: > > manu?ya? ca?ceva ca?c?manu?ya? kharaku?? n?pita??l? | ca?c? t??amaya? > puru?o ya? k?etrarak?a??ya kriyate > > Arlo > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of Arlo > Griffiths via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2024 1:17 AM > *To:* INDOLOGY > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] scarecrow > > Dear colleagues, > > Looking through NWS (search term Vogelscheuche), MW, and even the > English-Sanskrit dictionaries at > https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/, it is hard to find any > words that evidently means 'scarecrow' in Sanskrit. > > Would anyone be able to point me to words expressing this meaning with > some degree of plausibility? > > Best wishes, > > Arlo Griffiths > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M?rz 2024 um 03:37 Uhr schrieb Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > > I've just found one myself in the Amara??k?sarvasva: > > manu?ya? ca?ceva ca?c?manu?ya? kharaku?? n?pita??l? | ca?c? t??amaya? > puru?o ya? k?etrarak?a??ya kriyate > > Arlo > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of Arlo > Griffiths via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2024 1:17 AM > *To:* INDOLOGY > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] scarecrow > > Dear colleagues, > > Looking through NWS (search term Vogelscheuche), MW, and even the > English-Sanskrit dictionaries at > https://sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/simple/, it is hard to find any > words that evidently means 'scarecrow' in Sanskrit. > > Would anyone be able to point me to words expressing this meaning with > some degree of plausibility? > > Best wishes, > > Arlo Griffiths > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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