[INDOLOGY] Analogues to Anselm's Ontological Arguments in Indian Philosophy?

[dmitry shevchenko]

 Dear Howard,
I was not aware of Aristotle's argument about degrees of qualities reaching an absolute point. This is very relevant to the argument in the YSBh. Thank you for drawing my attention. 
Best wishes,Dimitry
    On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 11:13:58 PM GMT+3, Howard Resnick <hr at ivs.edu> wrote:  
 
 Dear Dimitry,
There seems to be a close parallel to the argument you quote below from the Yogasūtra-bhāṣya:
In his "Nicomachean Ethics," especially in Book X, Aristotle argues that degrees of qualities lead to an absolute point of each quality. This is a central point of his ethical theory that emphasizes the pursuit of the highest good or eudaimonia as the highest life goal.
Aristotle claims that our understanding of degrees of qualities like beauty and goodness implies the existence of an ideal or absolute form of these qualities, which serves as a standard for comparison. 
Best wishes,Howard

On Jun 24, 2024, at 2:16 AM, dmitry shevchenko <dima812000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
 Dear Jeffery,
In the Yogasūtra-bhāṣya, attributed to Vyāsa, there is a following argument, which is somewhat akin to the ontological argument. We observe in the world creatures with various cognitive capacities. Some perceive very small things, other very large things, some very remote things, etc. The fact that there are various degrees in cognitive capacities suggests that there must be the highest cognitive degree, i.e., omniscience. And the omniscient being is īśvara. It is not entirely clear whether the purpose of the argument is to prove the existence of God. I believe it is primarily meant to establish the possibility of omniscience, against which argue some Mīmāṃsakas. Nevertheless, it is based on a similar usage of the idea of "greatness" and on conceivability of its possession in the greatest measure...I'm attaching Larson's translation of this argument from the YSBh on the YS 1.25, with an elaboration by Vācaspati Miśra, who further atttempts to establish that omniscience can only be ascribed to God, and not to human teachers such as the Buddha and Mahāvīra.
Best wishes,Dimitry 
    On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 01:11:44 AM GMT+3, Jeffery Long via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:  
 
 That is extremely helpful, Howard. Thank you!
All the best,Jeff


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On Sunday, June 23, 2024, 6:07 PM, Howard Resnick <hr at ivs.edu> wrote:

Dear Jeff,
There is a passage in the Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu by Rūpa Gosvāmī which is a sort of variation on Anselm’s argument. Anselm of course is making an ontological argument for the existence itself of God, whereas Rūpa argues that Kṛṣṇa must be the most complete form or conception of God, in comparison to Nārāyaṇa, Śīva etc, because he possesses the greatest number of divine qualities.
What somehow connects Anselm and Rūpa, is that both assume that if God is infinitely great, then the greatest conception of God is closest to the truth. Anselm deploys this argument, of course, in assuming that existence itself is a positive attribute which must therefore be possessed by God.
Rūpa assumes existence and then argues in terms of other attributes. But both share the assumption that if God is infinitely great, then then greatest conception is closest to the truth. That is what connects them, in my view.
Thanks for the topic!
Best wishes,Howard


On Jun 23, 2024, at 12:17 PM, Jeffery Long via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,
Forgive me if this question has already been raised at some point on this list.
Are any of you aware of arguments developed in Indian philosophical systems akin to the ontological arguments for the existence of God raised by St. Anselm? The closest thing I can think of is Śaṅkara’s argument that existence is self-evident.
With much gratitude in advance,
Jeff

Dr. Jeffery D. Long
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